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New Import Duty/VAT Thread. Read Post #1 for Rules Updated 10/9/2024

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,364 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    Lads I got an order delivered about a week ago. then today I got a bill for import duty from FedEx.

    The order was $202.49 and the duty is €75.61. WTF!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Keno 92 wrote: »
    The order was $202.49 and the duty is €75.61. WTF!

    You're going to have to see the breakdown of the bill to know what's what. With Duty, VAT and handling fee though, that does sound about right, though maybe a little high. Generally speaking, it comes to about one third of the total order cost. The cost of shipping has to be included in the calculations too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    jor el wrote: »
    You're going to have to see the breakdown of the bill to know what's what. With Duty, VAT and handling fee though,
    Yep, $202 is showing as €147 on xe.com they will use a more realistic rate and so probably be above the €150 limit and so liable for duty as well as VAT. If you did not include the shipping on that $202 then it would definitely be over, and you are charged VAT on the shipping costs too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,364 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    The order was $157.54 and freight was $44.95 to a total of $202.49.

    So is there a figure that I can order up to without gettin this again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Keno 92 wrote: »
    The order was $157.54 and freight was $44.95 to a total of $202.49.

    So is there a figure that I can order up to without gettin this again?
    There should be no duty on that so, just VAT, when they figure the €150 limit for duty it excludes postage costs. Standard limit for VAT (and subsequent handling charge) is anything €22 including postage (in theory). I have often gotten stuff over this limit with no charge, anecdotally it seems ordering from some places gives a better chance of being caught, e.g. from well known sites like play.com -I expect they have customs men getting bags full of stuff in from play and being able to easily process it as they all look the same and have info easily readable (just my own theory).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭RUDOLF289


    rubadub wrote: »
    There should be no duty on that so, just VAT, when they figure the €150 limit for duty it excludes postage costs. Standard limit for VAT (and subsequent handling charge) is anything €22 including postage (in theory). I have often gotten stuff over this limit with no charge, anecdotally it seems ordering from some places gives a better chance of being caught, e.g. from well known sites like play.com -I expect they have customs men getting bags full of stuff in from play and being able to easily process it as they all look the same and have info easily readable (just my own theory).

    Hello Rubadub;

    herewith some excerpts from the public notice on parcel imports ;

    Examination of postal parcels/packets
    All non-Community mails on arrival at the depot are to be subjected to either an external examination or an internal examination of the goods and documents. As a check on the accuracy of the declared contents assessed, one parcel/packet in twenty is to be examined. This proportion may be reduced having regard to the volume of work and risk involved but where done, selection for internal examination should be carried out on parcels/packets considered to present the greatest risk.
    Officers in postal depots should become familiar with flows of parcel/packet traffic. From experience, Officers should build up criteria for profiling e.g. countries of origin, specific traders and specific commodities. Results of profiling give Officers a detailed picture of imports and enables them to detect trends that can be used in further risk analysis for profiling.

    So, yes, you are spot on wth your "theory"

    Cheers,
    Rudolf289


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭RUDOLF289


    rubadub wrote: »
    Yep, $202 is showing as €147 on xe.com they will use a more realistic rate and so probably be above the €150 limit and so liable for duty as well as VAT. If you did not include the shipping on that $202 then it would definitely be over, and you are charged VAT on the shipping costs too.

    Hello Rubadub,

    for the month of february the rate of exchange between Us$ and Euro is 1.3506 which would for € 202.00 comes to € 149.56

    From the public notice on parcel imports ;

    Goods of negligible value
    Packages, other than those containing tobacco or tobacco products, alcoholic products, perfumes or toilet waters, up to a value of €22 regardless of their status (private or commercial) are admitted free of Customs duty and VAT under the scheme commonly known as “small packages” or “de minimis” relief 3

    10 Waiver of small amounts of Customs duty
    Para 8.5 provides that where the Customs duty in any one consignment amounts to less than €10, the duty is to be waived. No such waiver exists in relation to excise duty.

    11 Waiver of small amounts of VAT

    An administrative arrangement allows for the waiving of VAT where the total tax calculated on a consignment does not exceed €6.

    In my view this suggests that anything over € 22.00 is subject to Duty and VAT subject to a minimum of € 10.00 on Duty and € 6.00 on VAT.

    Cheers,
    Rudolf289


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭RUDOLF289


    Keno 92 wrote: »
    Lads I got an order delivered about a week ago. then today I got a bill for import duty from FedEx.

    The order was $202.49 and the duty is €75.61. WTF!


    As Jor El suggests you need to have a look at the breakdown of the bill you received. On the basis of the value indicated you are looking at 50%, which does not seem right (even allowing for an administrative charge levied by FEDEX themselves).

    There is an appeals process, if not with FEDEX then with customs directly. Get all the facts and paperwork and in the 1st instance talk to FEDEX. You may need the paypall or credit card receipt to proof you only paid $ 202.49 including delivery/postage.

    Cheers,
    Rudolf289


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭freeze4real


    if your are shipping from the states always use usps.

    very reliable and fast plus some of them no import tax. got sn iphone 4 today no import tax. this is the 4th time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭leaveiton


    I'm considering ordering a dress from the USA online. I've been reading up on what I'll need to pay in duty and VAT. The order will be below €150, so I know that I won't need to pay duty, just VAT at 21%. However, I do have a question about something that the Revenue site says:
    The Customs Declaration Form on the relative parcel, if sent by post, should be marked "Negligible Value" and state the value of the goods in question, in addition to giving the details normally required.
    If imported using a SAD or on the AEP System, the goods should be declared as a consignment of negligible value. Code C07 should be entered in box 37 (b) of the SAD or on the AEP System in order to avail of the relief from Customs Duty and VAT that applies to consignments of neglibible value.

    Does this mean that the seller must mark the parcel as Negligible Value for that to take effect, or will I not be charged at customs regardless, as it will be marked as less than €150 on the parcel? I just want to check that I won't be caught out by them saying that if it wasn't marked, then I still have to pay duty.

    Also, in terms of the handling fee, is there any logic to what you have to pay, or will they just charge you anything between €5 and €15?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    leaveiton wrote: »
    I do have a question about something that the Revenue site says:
    The section you quoted is from the section on gifts and items of negligible value, your item is not either of these and it is fraud to describe it as such so most companies will refuse.

    You will not be charged duty, the price is usually show on the outside, if not they can open it and examine invoices to get the price, or they can make up their own or contact you for receipts to prove what you paid. e.g. an ipod declared at €10 is not going to make it through, a dress is harder to price so they might contact you for receipts, in the past mates of mine handed in paypal receipts.

    The handling fee can vary between carriers, if it was sent standard US mail USPS then it will be charged by an post and I think this is about €6. Couriers tend to charge more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭leaveiton


    rubadub wrote: »
    The section you quoted is from the section on gifts and items of negligible value, your item is not either of these and it is fraud to describe it as such so most companies will refuse.

    You will not be charged duty, the price is usually show on the outside, if not they can open it and examine invoices to get the price, or they can make up their own or contact you for receipts to prove what you paid. e.g. an ipod declared at €10 is not going to make it through, a dress is harder to price so they might contact you for receipts, in the past mates of mine handed in paypal receipts.

    The handling fee can vary between carriers, if it was sent standard US mail USPS then it will be charged by an post and I think this is about €6. Couriers tend to charge more.

    Oh, okay, thank you! Sorry, I was clearly getting mixed up, I thought that "negligible value" meant anything under €150. Thanks very much for answering! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,364 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    RUDOLF289 wrote: »
    As Jor El suggests you need to have a look at the breakdown of the bill you received. On the basis of the value indicated you are looking at 50%, which does not seem right (even allowing for an administrative charge levied by FEDEX themselves).

    There is an appeals process, if not with FEDEX then with customs directly. Get all the facts and paperwork and in the 1st instance talk to FEDEX. You may need the paypall or credit card receipt to proof you only paid $ 202.49 including delivery/postage.

    Cheers,
    Rudolf289

    The bill saids:

    Disbursements out of the scope of EU VAT - EUR 63.61
    Clearance Administration Charge Vatable at 21% - EUR 10.00
    Other Charges Vatable at 21% - EUR 0.00
    Other Charges Vatable at 0% - EUR 0.00
    VAT at 21% - EUR 2.10

    Total - EUR 75.71

    Cheers for all your help guys. I'm only 18 and this is all a bit overwhelming!
    Really appreciated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭leaveiton


    Just wondering about actually paying VAT charges. I've read through the thread, but where the actual payment comes in, and how it's made, is leaving me confused. Do they send you a bill, or do they just ask for payment when your parcel is delivered? Does it vary? If you are sent a bill, where is it coming from, and how do you deal with it? Might be stupid questions, and I'm sorry if they are, but I just don't quite understand the actual payment!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭RUDOLF289


    Keno 92 wrote: »
    The bill saids:

    Disbursements out of the scope of EU VAT - EUR 63.61
    Clearance Administration Charge Vatable at 21% - EUR 10.00
    Other Charges Vatable at 21% - EUR 0.00
    Other Charges Vatable at 0% - EUR 0.00
    VAT at 21% - EUR 2.10

    Total - EUR 75.71

    Cheers for all your help guys. I'm only 18 and this is all a bit overwhelming!
    Really appreciated.

    Hello Keno92

    You need to ask FEDEX what "Disbursements out of scope of EU VAT" means and how this charge has been calculated. The term is too vague to be able to judge what it is for and if it can be justified.

    Also, you might point out that anything to do with customs clearance, according to the VAT guide is not subject to VAT. So the € 2.10 they have charged you is not correct.

    Sorry for kicking the ball back in your court ......

    Cheers,
    Rudolf289


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭RUDOLF289


    leaveiton wrote: »
    Just wondering about actually paying VAT charges. I've read through the thread, but where the actual payment comes in, and how it's made, is leaving me confused. Do they send you a bill, or do they just ask for payment when your parcel is delivered? Does it vary? If you are sent a bill, where is it coming from, and how do you deal with it? Might be stupid questions, and I'm sorry if they are, but I just don't quite understand the actual payment!

    Hello Leaviton,

    where I come from there is no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid answers!

    If a shipment arrives by post or through a commercial carrier such as DHL, TNT, UPS, FEDEX etc, the shipment may require customs processing. That depends on the value of the shipment (as outlined at the start of the thread). If the shipment is subject to duty or VAT, the carrier/An Post will make a customs declaration and they - in the first instance - are liable for the Duty or VAT and settle this with customs. On delivery they would look for the charges from you.

    Hope this clarifies the issue for you, however feel free to post again if you require any further information.

    Cheers,
    Rudolf289


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    leaveiton wrote: »
    Do they send you a bill, or do they just ask for payment when your parcel is delivered? Does it vary?

    It does depend on the carrier, and varies a bit. An Post will look for the money up front before letting you have the delivery. Couriers like FedEx tend to bill later, which can be annoying because you won't know how much it's for until some time later.


  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭geoffrie1


    Say if i buy goods from ebayer A
    another good from ebayer B
    and one more from ebayer c

    do customs combine the price off the three things? and charge vat?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    geoffrie1 wrote: »
    do customs combine the price off the three things? and charge vat?
    No, however if they all came from the same supplier it might make a difference, but I have yet to hear of any reports of being charged on multiples. Revenue's site talks of "consignments", and I am not sure if 10 packages from the same place might be added up -if they wanted.

    In the past I have ordered and got 3 packages on the same day from the same seller in jersey, he had free post so I ordered separately, all under €22, but combined was well over €22 (or €45 for that matter), and I was not charged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Zimmerframe


    What duty would be on a watch from Switzerland valued at €350 ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭leaveiton


    jor el wrote: »
    It does depend on the carrier, and varies a bit. An Post will look for the money up front before letting you have the delivery. Couriers like FedEx tend to bill later, which can be annoying because you won't know how much it's for until some time later.

    The order will be coming with UPS, so they might bill. If they do, how do I go about paying the bill?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    They will tell you how to pay it.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 8,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fluorescence


    I'm scratching my head and fuming over this one, hope someone can help me figure it out.

    I ordered a cheapo mp3 player off an american site a few days ago. It cost $34 and an extra $22 to ship with UPS (altogether came to about €40). They tried to deliver today but failed (despite my being at home all day to meet them :rolleyes:), and on the slip they left in the letterbox it says I owe them €25.67 ("no change" handwritten underneath). I'm trying to figure out how the hell they came up with that considering I've paid delivery already (not to mention the mp3 itself didn't even cost that much so customs have gone to shít if that's what it is...).


    Can anyone tell me how they worked out such an extortionate fee for a very very cheap product???

    EDIT: I should probably mention it's only a very small package and weighs a measly half-pound (yes, half a POUND).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Thread merged with Duty and VAT thread, since that's what this is going to be.

    You need to ask UPS how they calculated the charges. At a guess though, $66 = €42. 21% VAT is €8.82, plus handling fee of €15 makes €23.82, which isn't far off what they've charged you.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 8,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fluorescence


    "Handling fee"? What a load of crap. Never using UPS again, <removed>

    Thanks for the reply :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    If you wish to make defamatory comments about a company or person, do not do it on this site.

    The handling fee is something ALL couriers and delivery companies apply when calculating VAT and duty.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 8,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fluorescence


    Sorry, I just got frustrated with all these mysterious charges they seemed to pull out of nowhere.




  • Hi

    Hoping somebody can help me with this query:

    Can my VAT registered company claim back vat on items bought from play.com under the value of €22?
    I Spoke to a play.com rep and they said that all items shipped to Ireland include vat of 21% on the price, so shouldn't I be able to claim that back? Anyone able to shed some light on this?

    Cheers


  • Company Representative Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭Gamesnash.ie: Pat


    Hi

    Hoping somebody can help me with this query:

    Can my VAT registered company claim back vat on items bought from play.com under the value of €22?
    I Spoke to a play.com rep and they said that all items shipped to Ireland include vat of 21% on the price, so shouldn't I be able to claim that back? Anyone able to shed some light on this?

    Cheers

    I stand to be corrected but I believe that this is wrong. As far as I know their prices in euro to Ireland and indeed anywhere else outside of the UK do not include VAT - you should find if searching here people who have had packages stopped for VAT when shipped from play (they usually ship from Jersey - outside of the EU)

    They do have an agreement with the UK revenue which clears all play.com packages as being duty paid etc but this is for the UK only.

    Normally when buying from a VAT registered business outside of Ireland you would provide a VAT number to them and be invoiced without VAT for your goods. This is the way you would claim VAT back as such. This doesn't happen with play.com.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    so shouldn't I be able to claim that back? Anyone able to shed some light on this?
    First off it would have to be for business use, so a plumber getting a PS3 game and claiming back VAT is fraud.
    I stand to be corrected but I believe that this is wrong.
    I thought so too. If it was the likes of amazon then they are shipping from within the EU and are above the €35,000 limit so do pay Irish VAT, but since play are outside the EU I see no reason why they would pay Irish VAT.

    As said plenty of people have been caught for VAT from play. However I do recall a mate getting a sweatshirt which was well over the limit and it appeared to come from the UK, so perhaps play have got a UK based centre in which case they could well be paying Irish VAT if over the 35K limit.


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  • rubadub wrote: »
    First off it would have to be for business use, so a plumber getting a PS3 game and claiming back VAT is fraud.

    I thought so too. If it was the likes of amazon then they are shipping from within the EU and are above the €35,000 limit so do pay Irish VAT, but since play are outside the EU I see no reason why they would pay Irish VAT.

    As said plenty of people have been caught for VAT from play. However I do recall a mate getting a sweatshirt which was well over the limit and it appeared to come from the UK, so perhaps play have got a UK based centre in which case they could well be paying Irish VAT if over the 35K limit.

    It would be for genuine business use.

    Have spoken to another rep and he hadn't a clue, perhaps the first rep was just telling me what I wanted to hear. I will have to investigate a bit further. thanks for the speedy replies guys, much appreciated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    If Play.com were registered for VAT in Ireland, and charging 21% VAT on items valued under €22, then they would also be charging VAT on items over €22, and anyone buying expensive items from Play would never be caught for VAT on delivery. Since this is not the case, I can only conclude that Play.com are 100% NOT charging VAT on purchases, therefore there is nothing for your business to reclaim.

    The first rep was either clueless, or just telling you what you wanted to hear in order to get rid of you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭0verblood


    hey guys, do I have to pay any vat or duty on textiles? I want to bring about 20 scarves back in my luggage from Kenya, they're just plain aul scarves.


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭mmille24


    How do you value used electronics?

    If something is being sent as a gift, isn't it up to the sender to determine the price of the item?

    Say a used iPad. What's stopping the sender from putting a value of 50 dollars?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    mmille24 wrote: »
    Say a used iPad. What's stopping the sender from putting a value of 50 dollars?

    That would be a lie, and a false declaration on the customs form. You can't just decide on an arbitrary value for something, you put what it's actual value is.

    If it's something you are buying, then it's not a gift either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭mmille24


    jor el wrote: »
    That would be a lie, and a false declaration on the customs form. You can't just decide on an arbitrary value for something, you put what it's actual value is.

    How would that be a lie? How are you going to legally determine the exact value of a used item? All used items aren't the same. A used item could be worth more to one person than another.
    jor el wrote: »
    If it's something you are buying, then it's not a gift either.
    I wouldn't be purchasing it. It would be a gift.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    There have been posts where people were charged duty on dealextreme purchases, all of which are declared as $10. I have heard customs can pick the current market value of a product here, however I cannot find anything on the revenue.ie site about under valued items.

    I know of 2 people who had to send in a paypal receipt for a nintendo DS which had a low value listed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    mmille24 wrote: »
    How would that be a lie? How are you going to legally determine the exact value of a used item? All used items aren't the same.

    To use your example of an iPad, then an iPad is worth a lot more than $50. If you want to put a false (lower) value on a customs declaration, then that would be a lie. What you pay for it is largely irrelevant anyway, as Customs officials can and will value something for themselves if it looks any way suspicious. Being a used item does not mean that it will be valued below it's retail value.

    If someone is sending you a gift, then you will have no invoice to show value, nor will you be able to prove what they paid for it. If someone is sending you an iPad, then you can expect to pay VAT at it's full retail price. Customs are not going to believe or accept a valuation of $50 on that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭mmille24


    jor el wrote: »
    To use your example of an iPad, then an iPad is worth a lot more than $50. If you want to put a false (lower) value on a customs declaration, then that would be a lie. What you pay for it is largely irrelevant anyway, as Customs officials can and will value something for themselves if it looks any way suspicious.
    So if an item looks suspicious they can declare whatever value they want? That's interesting.

    You seem to be equating having a lower valuation on something to lying. You have a pretty liberal use of the word. If you thought a used iPad is valued at 600 dollars, and I think it's valued at 450, I'd be lying?
    jor el wrote: »
    Being a used item does not mean that it will be valued below it's retail value.
    So then the value declared has to be the retail value of an item?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Found the one page on revenue.ie

    http://www.revenue.ie/en/customs/leaflets/pn1882.html
    2. General points to note about shopping over the Internet or from mail order catalogues

    There are some general points which anyone contemplating a purchase over the Internet or from a mail order catalogue should bear in mind, as follows:

    1. you need to be aware of the potential full price of the goods involved since some websites do not make allowance for charges such as Customs Duty, Excise Duty or VAT;
    2. some websites state that they can misdeclare or undervalue the goods as a way of avoiding charges. Clearly, this is illegal and purchasers should bear in mind that they, as the importer of the goods, have legal responsibility for ensuring the accuracy of information provided on the declaration by the seller and ensuring that the correct payments are made; and
    3. in all cases involving purchases over the Internet or from a mail order catalogue, the carrier imposes a handling charge for processing the goods through Customs. Although this handling charge is collected with the Duties payable it is not a Customs charge. As these handling charges may vary, intending purchasers should establish in advance what the precise amount will be – for example, by asking the seller what rates are charged by various carriers.
    It is really going to be at their discretion, a €50 ipad, no hope, €450 -probably might. It would have to be vague enough rules,

    this is also from revenue.ie and though it says not applied to imports I expect they would take a similar approach
    − Open market price is the price that the goods or services in question
    might reasonably be expected to fetch on the open market. This
    applies to goods, services and intra-Community acquisitions. Note
    that it does not apply to imports, where customs rules apply – see
    section 53.
    − Open market value is the arm’s length consideration for the goods and
    services. If there is no comparable supply, the open market value is
    not less than the purchase price/cost to the supplier.

    I think I have read in the past of people being charged on legitimate prizes.
    mmille24 wrote: »
    So if an item looks suspicious they can declare whatever value they want?
    If they didn't then loads of people would be at it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭mmille24


    rubadub wrote: »
    Found the one page on revenue.ie

    http://www.revenue.ie/en/customs/leaflets/pn1882.html


    It is really going to be at their discretion, a €50 ipad, no hope, €450 -probably might. It would have to be vague enough rules,

    this is also from revenue.ie and though it says not applied to imports I expect they would take a similar approach
    This wouldn't be shopping though, the items received weren't bought by me and would be given as a gift. Would the same rules be applied regardless? I would think there's a distinction between the two.
    rubadub wrote: »
    If they didn't then loads of people would be at it.
    I have a hard time understanding what constitutes as a suspicious package.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    mmille24 wrote: »
    You seem to be equating having a lower valuation on something to lying. You have a pretty liberal use of the word. If you thought a used iPad is valued at 600 dollars, and I think it's valued at 450, I'd be lying?

    Why do you keep putting words in my mouth? You've asked what happens if you declare a value of $50 on an iPad, which would clearly be a lie, since an iPad is worth far more than that. If you're getting an iPad as a gift then you cannot declare it as being valued under the €45 limit for gifts. If you knowingly declare a false value, that would be a lie, and more importantly it would be fraud.

    Also, it doesn't matter what either of us thinks the value is, if customs chose not to believe you then they will ask you to back up your claimed value, or else they'll re-value it themselves.
    mmille24 wrote: »
    This wouldn't be shopping though, the items received weren't bought by me and would be given as a gift. Would the same rules be applied regardless? I would think there's a distinction between the two.

    Doesn't matter that you didn't buy it. It has value, therefore you pay Value Added Tax. Import duty and VAT applies to any gift over €45. An iPad will definitely qualify for both VAT and excise duty (duty free limit is €150).

    mmille24 wrote: »
    So if an item looks suspicious they can declare whatever value they want?
    mmille24 wrote:
    I have a hard time understanding what constitutes as a suspicious package.

    They won't declare whatever value they want, they will put a real value on it, probably based on it's retail price. Anything that is given an obviously false declaration will be open to suspicion and re-valuation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    0verblood wrote: »
    hey guys, do I have to pay any vat or duty on textiles? I want to bring about 20 scarves back in my luggage from Kenya, they're just plain aul scarves.

    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vat/rates/decision-detail-01438.jsp

    Scarves for adults are normal rate, children are zero.

    All the info is usually on revenue.ie you can use the site: syntax on google i.e.

    scarves site:revenue.ie

    If you are charged is depending on value, all in the first post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    mmille24 wrote: »
    This wouldn't be shopping though, the items received weren't bought by me and would be given as a gift. Would the same rules be applied regardless? I would think there's a distinction between the two.
    As in the first post, the rules are different, a €22 limit vs €45 limit for legitimate gifts.

    A lot of this boils down to common sense, if all gifts were totally exempt then people would start labelling everything as gifts.
    mmille24 wrote: »
    I have a hard time understanding what constitutes as a suspicious package.
    The customs men won't, e.g. I would hope trained customs personnel would not need a second opinion as to whether an ipad is really worth €50. I don't think you will find a black & white rule as to what a suspicious valuation is, it is at their discretion really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭nompere


    rubadub wrote: »
    A lot of this boils down to common sense, if all gifts were totally exempt then people would start labelling everything as gifts.

    The customs men won't, e.g. I would hope trained customs personnel would not need a second opinion as to whether an ipad is really worth €50. I don't think you will find a black & white rule as to what a suspicious valuation is, it is at their discretion really.

    Just to add a little to what rubadub has said here. Revenue (and Customs are part of Revenue) are rarely bound by what a seller and a purchaser say the value of something is, particularly if they suspect collusion. Throughout tax and customs legislation they are empowered to make their own estimates of value and then the burden of proof of challenging that value rests with the purchaser. In the absence of such proof their estimate will stand and they can and will collect tax or duty. Their collection powers are comprehensive.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,624 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Just wondering what's the maximum price of a product you can import in

    For example I hope to import something that cost 245 Dollars from American so how much import vat will i be paying ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    First post has all details. There is no ceiling on the value of what you're importing, just on the amount that can be tax free.


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭SusieQue


    So, would I have to pay charges on a bag worth $89 + $35postage = roughly €90..

    Thanks in advance,
    Susie:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Again, post #1 has all the detail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 abmcolour


    Hi

    Have enjoyed reading through this thread. Only thing missing from my perspective is a little more guidance on "Duty".

    I am considering purchasing a camera tripod and tripod head (attaches on top of the tripod to allow fast swivelling of the camera which is itself attached to the top of the head). These will be two separate orders from separate companies. They would cost about EUR 300 and 400 respectively (inclusive of postage). From the thread it is clear there will be 21% VAT charged on the total of (cost + postage + duty). My first question is, how much, if any, would the duty be on a camera tripod and a tripod head? My second question is, would the same duty be applicable to digital cameras?

    Maybe some general guidance on the Duty payable on commonly purchased categories of items could be placed in the first entry on this string?

    Many thanks in advance for whatever help/guidance you can provide.


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