Guinness Pro12 2014/2015 Season thread

ssaye2 · 08-07-2014 2:21pm

LeinsterDub wrote: »

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/rugby/latest/guinness-head-in-as-new-sponsors-of-pro-12-1-3469675

"Celtic rugby organisers are preparing to announce brewery firm Guinness as the new sponsors of the PRO 12, the Evening News understands."

They read boards.

irishbucsfan · 08-07-2014 2:26pm

Ha, sure enough:

http://whois.danrodgers.pro/new/guinnesspro12.com

Might be interesting to try a bunch of random ones to see who else tendered!

http://whois.danrodgers.pro/new/heinekenpro12.com - Nope!

CatFromHue · 08-07-2014 2:29pm

LeinsterDub wrote: »

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/rugby/latest/guinness-head-in-as-new-sponsors-of-pro-12-1-3469675

"Celtic rugby organisers are preparing to announce brewery firm Guinness as the new sponsors of the PRO 12, the Evening News understands."

Brewery Firm

OldRio · 08-07-2014 5:46pm

Announcement Thursday.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/pro12/guinness-to-be-announced-as-new-pro12-sponsor-1.1859378

CatFromHue · 08-07-2014 6:18pm

Weren't RaboDirect sponsoring the league just for the Irish arm of it?

It kind of further rubbishes the argument that Ireland and Irish teams don't take it seriously!

Podge_irl · 08-07-2014 6:21pm

Not per se. They sponsored the whole thing but only have a presence in Ireland.

CatFromHue · 08-07-2014 6:24pm

yeah so they only sponsored it for the Irish market.

Podge_irl · 08-07-2014 6:25pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

yeah so they only sponsored it for the Irish market.

Ah yes, I get ya. Thought you meant they were only officially sponsoring the Irish part (a la the Super XV).

CatFromHue · 08-07-2014 6:32pm

I didn't know you could do that in SuperXV but I suppose it makes sense.

Podge_irl · 08-07-2014 6:35pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

I didn't know you could do that in SuperXV but I suppose it makes sense.

Makes more sense there cause of the much more disparate media markets. The Italians should definitely be allowed get their own sponsor if they wanted though.

.ak · 08-07-2014 11:10pm

Podge_irl wrote: »

Makes more sense there cause of the much more disparate media markets. The Italians should definitely be allowed get their own sponsor if they wanted though.

What? The Italians love Guinness so they do!

Larbre34 · 09-07-2014 9:00am

As the dust settles on Brooksgate I can see all the Joe Duffy hand-wringers moving quickly to the 'booze in sport sponsorship' bandwagon once again. Which will be a pity, as this is an excellent deal for the league, Guinness always does well by its partners. And the Turkish Airlines Pro12 (as was mooted) would just have been wrong.

Other than that Id say, underage drinkers can't hack Guinness, so no worries.

thomond2006 · 09-07-2014 9:14am

Larbre34 wrote: »

As the dust settles on Brooksgate I can see all the Joe Duffy hand-wringers moving quickly to the 'booze in sport sponsorship' bandwagon once again. Which will be a pity, as this is an excellent deal for the league, Guinness always does well by its partners. And the Turkish Airlines Pro12 (as was mooted) would just have been wrong.

Other than that Id say, underage drinkers can't hack Guinness, so no worries.

I don't get the argument to be honest and in this economy any move to take money out of organisations like the IRFU or GAA is just plain dumb. Is there any real evidence to suggest that a ban on advertising would reduce binge drinking? Further to that wasn't it suggested that events like the Jameson Film Festival would be exempt?

/sorry off topic!

CIARAN_BOYLE · 09-07-2014 10:26am

thomond2006 wrote: »

I don't get the argument to be honest and in this economy any move to take money out of organisations like the IRFU or GAA is just plain dumb. Is there any real evidence to suggest that a ban on advertising would reduce binge drinking? Further to that wasn't it suggested that events like the Jameson Film Festival would be exempt?

/sorry off topic!

Cultural events such as Music Festivals would be exempt, god forbid anyone would have an issue with beer companies giving out free drink to drunk kids.

They are just hitting the sports organisations.

thomond2006 · 09-07-2014 10:29am

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Cultural events such as Music Festivals would be exempt, god forbid anyone would have an issue with beer companies giving out free drink to drunk kids.

They are just hitting the sports organisations.

It's nonsense.

former legend · 09-07-2014 10:39am

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Cultural events such as Music Festivals would be exempt, god forbid anyone would have an issue with beer companies giving out free drink to drunk kids.

They are just hitting the sports organisations.

While I agree with your sentiments, if you think the beer at music festivals is free, you obviously haven't paid €6 for a pint of Heineken in a plastic glass at Electric Picnic recently...

When this (banning alcohol sponsorship) was first mooted, there was talk of the government making up the shortfall by increasing public funding, that has been quietly dropped so it's even less of a runner now IMO.

In fairness to Leo Varadkar, he's been very sensible on this issue and it hasn't progressed much at all under his watch.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 09-07-2014 10:45am

former legend wrote: »

While I agree with your sentiments, if you think the beer at music festivals is free, you obviously haven't paid €6 for a pint of Heineken in a plastic glass at Electric Picnic recently...

True but there always seems that there is one tent at every festival offering a free drink or free cans or something. At least a limited amount. I know generally its expensive but there is always some free drink somewhere provided by sponsors.

.ak · 09-07-2014 10:51am

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

True but there always seems that there is one tent at every festival offering a free drink or free cans or something. At least a limited amount. I know generally its expensive but there is always some free drink somewhere provided by sponsors.

I want to go to the festivals you're going to.

Mal-Adjusted · 09-07-2014 12:53pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

It kind of further rubbishes the argument that Ireland and Irish teams don't take it seriously!

I thought the biggest problem was that the Irish teams (and Glasgow) are the only ones who are taking it seriously

considering what they've been doing lately, i'm a little surprised BT didn't go for it.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 09-07-2014 12:54pm

Mal-Adjusted wrote: »

I thought the biggest problem was that the Irish teams (and Glasgow) are the only ones who are taking it seriously

Its more that Irish teams are dominating it without taking it seriously that is the problem.

CatFromHue · 09-07-2014 1:15pm

Larbre34 wrote: »

As the dust settles on Brooksgate I can see all the Joe Duffy hand-wringers moving quickly to the 'booze in sport sponsorship' bandwagon once again. Which will be a pity, as this is an excellent deal for the league, Guinness always does well by its partners. And the Turkish Airlines Pro12 (as was mooted) would just have been wrong.

Other than that Id say, underage drinkers can't hack Guinness, so no worries.

The relentless alcohol marketing sinks in much earlier than 14. Other research in Britain of 10 and 11-year-olds shows that children are more familiar with beer brands than they are with brands of ice- cream or cake.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/a-sporting-chance-is-it-time-to-get-off-the-booze-and-on-the-ball-30389486.html

I don't know the ins and outs of marketing but that's quite an amazing statistic. What I do know is that doing 1 thing like banning sponsorship won't solve the problem of binge or underage drinking, there has to be a number of things done at once.

ssaye2 · 09-07-2014 5:23pm

The 2014/15 @PRO12Rugby fixtures will be announced at 11am tomorrow, July 10th #PRO12Rugby

LR usually away first, BP win please to start again, every point counts

What surprised me last season was under JS it was a weaker team early on as the internationals got integrated back in but under MOC versus Scarlets last year it was strong.

ssaye2 · 09-07-2014 5:50pm

Great comment on IT regarding Guinness sponsorship

"All games to kick off at 17:59 !"

09-07-2014 6:03pm

I just read Arthur's Day has been canned. That's a shame. It was always a bit of fun regardless of it being completely fabricated by marketers.

icdg · 09-07-2014 8:22pm

Hopefully Celtic Rugby will also confirm soon which of their regional broadcast partners have re-signed, though we're aware RTE have not and are pretty certain (though not confirmed) that TG4 are in.

.ak · 10-07-2014 9:23am

ssaye2 wrote: »

The 2014/15 @PRO12Rugby fixtures will be announced at 11am tomorrow, July 10th #PRO12Rugby

LR usually away first, BP win please to start again, every point counts

What surprised me last season was under JS it was a weaker team early on as the internationals got integrated back in but under MOC versus Scarlets last year it was strong.

Thought we were pretty cak against Scarlets, until they gave in to our conditioning towards the end and we ran everything.

icdg · 10-07-2014 10:36am

Pro12 website is now Guinness branded, goodbye Rabo.

slingerz · 10-07-2014 10:45am

Will the fixtures announced at 11 be moved at all for TV coverage?

thomond2006 · 10-07-2014 10:48am

http://www.rabodirectpro12.com/home.php

Looks really cool. I never liked the orange Rabo branding.

.ak · 10-07-2014 10:49am

Oooh, nice.

.ak · 10-07-2014 10:52am

thomond2006 wrote: »

http://www.rabodirectpro12.com/home.php

Looks really cool. I never liked the orange Rabo branding.

Yeah thought it was naff. I also didn't like the name 'Rabo', just sounded silly.

Skid X · 10-07-2014 10:55am

http://www.pro12rugby.com/news/15278.php#.U75f2o1dUQQ

The GUINNESS PRO12 season will burst into action with lots of outstanding games to look forward to, starting on the first weekend of September (5/6/7th) 2014, with Glasgow Warriors hosting back-to-back champions Leinster in a repeat of last season's Final. Munster and Ulster, who both reached the Play-Offs, face Edinburgh at home and Scarlets away respectively. The Ospreys will face Benetton Treviso in Swansea and Cardiff Blues travel to Parma to take on Zebre. Connacht host the Newport Gwent Dragons in Galway.

thomond2006 · 10-07-2014 10:57am

Glasgow vs Leinster is a great opener BUT it won't be the same if a lot of the internationals are missing.

Peregrine · 10-07-2014 11:03am

I really like the Guinness branding. I didn't like Rabo's orange and blue at all.

thomond2006 · 10-07-2014 11:03am

Munster vs Leinster in Thomond Park on Stephen's Day / Stephen's Day weekend. That's going to be class! The same October-April fixtures were getting tiresome. Hopefully that will sell out unlike last year.

P_1 · 10-07-2014 11:07am

thomond2006 wrote: »

Munster vs Leinster in Thomond Park on Stephen's Day / Stephen's Day weekend. That's going to be class! The same October-April fixtures were getting tiresome. Hopefully that will sell out unlike last year.

Will it though? Irish teams are known for resting the big guns for the away leg at Christmas, not too sure how appealing Munster v Leinster 'A' will be

thomond2006 · 10-07-2014 11:08am

P_1 wrote: »

Will it though? Irish teams are known for resting the big guns for the away leg at Christmas, not too sure how appealing Munster v Leinster 'A' will be

Ah there will have to be strong sides or there would be war.

Teferi · 10-07-2014 11:09am

In recognition of our new overlords can we re-title this the Guinness Pro 12 thread?

Or do we have to think of the children who this might influence?

.ak · 10-07-2014 11:24am

Teferi wrote: »

In recognition of our new overlords can we re-title this the Guinness Pro 12 thread?

Or do we have to think of the children who this might influence?

Let them be influenced.

.ak · 10-07-2014 11:25am

P_1 wrote: »

Will it though? Irish teams are known for resting the big guns for the away leg at Christmas, not too sure how appealing Munster v Leinster 'A' will be

It'll be very appealing if Leinster 'A' win. ;D

awec · 10-07-2014 11:29am

About time they changed the inter-pro scheduling

slingerz · 10-07-2014 11:34am

any idea when they will firm up the dates/times for these fixtures?

ssaye2 · 10-07-2014 11:35am

slingerz wrote: »

any idea when they will firm up the dates/times for these fixtures?

David Jordan, Tournament Director, GUINNESS PRO12 stated that 'the kick off times for the first half of the season will be issued shortly,

awec · 10-07-2014 11:36am

Munster v Ulster is the first game after the AIs so I'm guessing that will be pretty weakened teams as well.

cp · 10-07-2014 11:43am

Isn't that usually the case though? A week our from the start of the European games?

conf101 · 10-07-2014 11:53am

Is the website down for anyone else?

ssaye2 · 10-07-2014 11:54am

conf101 wrote: »

Is the website down for anyone else?

http://www.pro12rugby.com/home.php

this is ok

awec · 10-07-2014 11:56am

cp wrote: »

Isn't that usually the case though? A week our from the start of the European games?

There were no inter-pros that week last year.

Are you thinking of the inter-pro before the european knockout rounds start? Usually there's two pro12 fixtures after the 6N before the Euro game, so the interpro is usually very strong teams.

GavMan · 10-07-2014 12:07pm

ssaye2 wrote: »

http://www.pro12rugby.com/home.php

this is ok

Nope. Down for me.

Error simply saying "InvalidCust". No other details.

I'm on chrome. Cant be arsed trying any other browser

ssaye2 · 10-07-2014 12:08pm

GavMan wrote: »

Nope. Down for me.

Error simply saying "InvalidCust". No other details.

I'm on chrome. Cant be arsed trying any other browser

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Guinness Pro12 2014/2015 Season thread

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