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The Pat Kenny Show

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,234 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    So, about 10 minutes ago, Pat Kenny took the line from Michael Creed, minister for agriculture: There has been a special Covid 19 hotline for farmers set up. Did Michael Creed have the phone number.....eh....em.. "ya caught me cold"..

    I turned the dial... to RTE 1

    Pat has had Regina Doherty on twice in the last week and she was absolutely brilliant.

    Every question answered without hesitation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    So, about 10 minutes ago, Pat Kenny took the line from Michael Creed, minister for agriculture: There has been a special Covid 19 hotline for farmers set up. Did Michael Creed have the phone number.....eh....em.. "ya caught me cold"..

    I turned the dial... to RTE 1

    creed was never the sharpest knife in the drawer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,023 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    BPKS wrote: »
    Pat has had Regina Doherty on twice in the last week and she was absolutely brilliant. Every question answered without hesitation.
    Ah she did not, she did not know the answer to some of them, and said that she would consult and get a response later.

    Besides, she was sacked by us two months ago


  • Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭BillyBird


    zell12 wrote: »
    Ah she did not, she did not know the answer to some of them, and said that she would consult and get a response later.

    Besides, she was sacked by us two months ago


    Not to mention that she was probably the only minister to make a massive cocks up during the crisis - having to back track on payment amounts; announcing that employers would be covered for payments to employees, then they mightn't be, sowing confusion.


    I'd disagree with FG on most policies (current crisis aside), but Regina is the only one I'd have a visceral dislike to for whatever reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭BarryM


    BillyBird wrote: »
    Not to mention that she was probably the only minister to make a massive cocks up during the crisis - having to back track on payment amounts; announcing that employers would be covered for payments to employees, then they mightn't be, sowing confusion.


    I'd disagree with FG on most policies (current crisis aside), but Regina is the only one I'd have a visceral dislike to for whatever reason.

    Did I hear yesterday that she is expecting a Taoiseach's nomination to the Senate "and retain the Ministerial job"

    FFS


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    She will probably get it too.

    There's not much hunger among TDs to replace the current government.


  • Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭BillyBird


    She will probably get it too.

    There's not much hunger among TDs to replace the current government.


    There's a good chance that FG will be in some form of government so they'll have a share of nominations (even if there's a rotating Taoiseach).


    Add to that the under-representation of women in the Seanad and no women from FG. Points to Leo appointing some FG women.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭BarryM


    Correction.... isn't it the 'next' Taoiseach who is supposed to do the nominations? WTF is she talking about? Of course she thinks Veradkar will be the next.....

    BTW, I hope Kelly tells tweedle dum and tweedle dee to take a hike. Their, and especially his, term in a coalition wasn't great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,592 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    BarryM wrote: »
    Did I hear yesterday that she is expecting a Taoiseach's nomination to the Senate "and retain the Ministerial job"

    FFS

    Bit of a misunderstanding really.

    She was asked would she take that route and basically said "never say never".

    A safe holding reply given the circumstances.

    Possibly a Senator, unlikely a Minister in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,023 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Regina Doherty on now at 09:27
    spinning


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,023 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    16 minutes of Regina there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭jay0109


    Kate O'Connell on moaning about the lack of female Senators currently elected and how she would he honoured to be one of Leo's nominees. She believes there's resistance in FG, especially young FG, against having too many elected women in the party!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    elperello wrote: »
    Bit of a misunderstanding really.

    She was asked would she take that route and basically said "never say never".

    A safe holding reply given the circumstances.

    Possibly a Senator, unlikely a Minister in my opinion.

    How could she possibly be a minister when she failed to be elected?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭Allinall


    How could she possibly be a minister when she failed to be elected?

    Up to two members of the Seanad can be appointed minister.

    These can in turn be appointed by An Taoiseach.

    Section 28.7 of the Constitution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,234 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    How could she possibly be a minister when she failed to be elected?

    The idea was floated a few years ago - after the financial crisis - of getting experts in certain areas elected to the Seanad and given Ministerial roles in their expert fields.

    For example I would much have a financial expert as Minister for Finance instead of some teacher or somebody with an Arts degree that has worked in PR for a few years and become a TD.

    Same with Health, Transport portfolios etc.

    EDIT: not talking about Doherty obviously, more a general observation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    BPKS wrote: »
    The idea was floated a few years ago - after the financial crisis - of getting experts in certain areas elected to the Seanad and given Ministerial roles in their expert fields.

    For example I would much have a financial expert as Minister for Finance instead of some teacher or somebody with an Arts degree that has worked in PR for a few years and become a TD.

    Same with Health, Transport portfolios etc.

    EDIT: not talking about Doherty obviously, more a general observation.

    Crazy talk!

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    BPKS wrote: »
    The idea was floated a few years ago - after the financial crisis - of getting experts in certain areas elected to the Seanad and given Ministerial roles in their expert fields.

    For example I would much have a financial expert as Minister for Finance instead of some teacher or somebody with an Arts degree that has worked in PR for a few years and become a TD.

    Same with Health, Transport portfolios etc.

    EDIT: not talking about Doherty obviously, more a general observation.

    It doesn't work in Irish electoral system where people vote for candidates directly. It makes sense to make them ministers and boost their profile to improve chances of re-electon and getting extra people in. What you are looking for works when you vote for parties not individuals (or for only one individual in american system).


  • Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭BillyBird


    BPKS wrote: »
    For example I would much have a financial expert as Minister for Finance instead of some teacher or somebody with an Arts degree that has worked in PR for a few years and become a TD.


    The minister is supported by the permanent civil servants that run those departments. And those guys are experts in their various areas.


    The idea that one person would be a financial expert in economics, banking, consumer finance, taxation, etc. is probably a long shot.


    I'd prefer somebody smart, somebody who knows what questions to ask/who to ask. Not that we necessarily get those either .....


    Having some sort of a background in some area Finance would help for sure.



    Oh and somebody that has a bank account.


  • Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭monstermag


    Allinall wrote: »
    Up to two members of the Seanad can be appointed minister.

    These can in turn be appointed by An Taoiseach.

    Section 28.7 of the Constitution.

    By all accounts the vast majority of her FG colleagues were glad to see the back of her including the taoiseach. Surprised Pat wasn't aware of that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,945 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    Charlie Flanagan giving us a lesson here in how to dodge a question. What is the point of having him on if he won't answer a simple question. I know it is the modus operandi of politicians, but it makes for infuriating listening.


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    Whats he being asked??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,594 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    jay0109 wrote: »
    Kate O'Connell on moaning about the lack of female Senators currently elected and how she would he honoured to be one of Leo's nominees. She believes there's resistance in FG, especially young FG, against having too many elected women in the party!

    A wannabe Dail lifer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Charlie Flanagan giving us a lesson here in how to dodge a question. What is the point of having him on if he won't answer a simple question. I know it is the modus operandi of politicians, but it makes for infuriating listening.

    I was listening and didn't hear him dodge any question.

    He was very clear in his answers.

    Which question was it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


    WTF, first story of the day, some Garda canvassing for support to get his Garda daughter reinstated after being let-go from the force for failing a fitness test. Really? Now that's some pull, and also Newstalk and PK lowering themselves.

    The fitness test is super easy, and should be a lot more rigorous. What a joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    fatbhoy wrote: »
    WTF, first story of the day, some Garda canvassing for support to get his Garda daughter reinstated after being let-go from the force for failing a fitness test. Really? Now that's some pull, and also Newstalk and PK lowering themselves.

    The fitness test is super easy, and should be a lot more rigorous. What a joke.

    Seriously? That's a bit low-brow for PK I would have thought? That's more Joe Duffy territory. Someone in Newstalk must need a speeding ticket rescinded. And that Garda should be reported to the Ombudsman.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,023 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Yeah, retired garda daddy was whinging about his daughter being sacked and her future prospects
    Pat going on about how barely trained recruits and overweight retirees were being drafted in and this angel was being fired

    Worth listening back to it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭jay0109


    Allinall wrote: »
    I was listening and didn't hear him dodge any question.

    He was very clear in his answers.

    Which question was it?

    It was pure waffle as usual from Flanagan.....saying it was up to the Ferry companies to check the bona fides of Brits getting the ferry across to Ireland.
    Wouldn't commit to saying the Gardai should definitely issue fines or turn people back.

    He sits on the fence on absolutely everything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭Allinall


    jay0109 wrote: »
    It was pure waffle as usual from Flanagan.....saying it was up to the Ferry companies to check the bona fides of Brits getting the ferry across to Ireland.
    Wouldn't commit to saying the Gardai should definitely issue fines or turn people back.

    He sits on the fence on absolutely everything

    He has no control over who does or does not get on a ferry in the UK.

    It's also not his call as to whether Gardaí issue fines or not. that's an operational issue for the Garda commissioner, and there is no way the minister should be interfering.

    Anything else?


  • Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭BillyBird


    And that Garda should be reported to the Ombudsman.


    Pretty sure he was already retired.

    Regardless, it was a nonsense segment. Pat seemed to have a lot of sympathy for her but as others say the fitness test are hardly that strenuous


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭jay0109


    Allinall wrote: »
    He has no control over who does or does not get on a ferry in the UK.

    It's also not his call as to whether Gardaí issue fines or not. that's an operational issue for the Garda commissioner, and there is no way the minister should be interfering.

    Anything else?

    Go on out of that.

    'Operational issue' is the go to 'get out of jail card' when it comes to anything to do with the Gardai. He sits in the Cabinet as a Minister...let him do his job that he's well paid for rather than hide behind the people who report into him.
    A strong Minister sets the agenda for the Garda Commissioner to follow. The traffic queues on the news last night are down to weak guidance from the very top.

    As for the ferries....Charlie is also in charge of immigration checks. He can instruct them to be stopped at Dublin Port and turned back. If he wanted. But that would involve making a decision that might not be popular.
    He's very good at making decisions which he perceives will be popular!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,519 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    zell12 wrote: »
    Yeah, retired garda daddy was whinging about his daughter being sacked and her future prospects
    Pat going on about how barely trained recruits and overweight retirees were being drafted in and this angel was being fired

    Worth listening back to it

    Life is unfair, the rest of us don't have a retired relative to bat for us to get the job we want, nepotism is rife in Ireland as it is, let alone running off crying about it to PK.

    Suck it up, buttercup.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,026 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Pat’s “impersonation” of the sound a woman makes giving birth was both unexpected and unwelcome.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,594 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Pat now advertising for Fox News Now, telling us about their programmes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,951 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Pat now advertising for Fox News Now, telling us about their programmes.

    He comments on CNN, MSNBC and other shows from US, UK or Ireland as well. Don't expect him to issue a disclaimer every time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,594 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    He comments on CNN, MSNBC and other shows from US, UK or Ireland as well. Don't expect him to issue a disclaimer every time.

    Fox News not available in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,951 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Fox News not available in Ireland.

    So how exactly does what he do constitute advertising if he is talking about something which is unavailable?

    He might, just might of course, have access to the internet on which he may have seen either shows or clips.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,594 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    So how exactly does what he do constitute advertising if he is talking about something which is unavailable?

    He might, just might of course, have access to the internet on which he may have seen either shows or clips.

    Odd that an Irish radio host is promoting an interview on Fox News even when 99.9% of Irish don't watch or have access to Fox.

    Has Pat completely lost the plot with Trump?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,592 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Pat now advertising for Fox News Now, telling us about their programmes.
    Fox News not available in Ireland.
    Odd that an Irish radio host is promoting an interview on Fox News even when 99.9% of Irish don't watch or have access to Fox.

    Has Pat completely lost the plot with Trump?

    Fox News website covers a lot of the TV content https://www.foxnews.com/

    Fox News is pretty much part of the story when covering the Trump presidency.

    Maybe the more apt question Pat is addressing is "has Trump completely lost the plot ?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,951 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Odd that an Irish radio host is promoting an interview on Fox News even when 99.9% of Irish don't watch or have access to Fox.

    Has Pat completely lost the plot with Trump?

    What do you mean?

    Why is he discussing one of the biggest stories going on outside of Ireland iin relation to Covid-19?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,266 ✭✭✭mattser


    Odd that an Irish radio host is promoting an interview on Fox News even when 99.9% of Irish don't watch or have access to Fox.

    Has Pat completely lost the plot with Trump?

    He lost that on day 1.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,594 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    elperello wrote: »
    Fox News website covers a lot of the TV content https://www.foxnews.com/

    Fox News is pretty much part of the story when covering the Trump presidency.

    Maybe the more apt question Pat is addressing is "has Trump completely lost the plot ?"

    The focus on Fox News seems to be an Irish fascination. I think more Irish watch Fox News than Americans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,951 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    The focus on Fox News seems to be an Irish fascination. I think more Irish watch Fox News than Americans.

    Would make sense so for Pat to cover it, wouldn't you say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,592 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    The focus on Fox News seems to be an Irish fascination. I think more Irish watch Fox News than Americans.

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/dec/31/fox-news-drew-in-highest-ever-number-viewers-2019

    Fox has the highest viewership for a news channel in US 2.5M.


  • Registered Users Posts: 115 ✭✭sideboard


    elperello wrote: »

    so it's the Coronation Street of US television...any (unbiased) news on it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,951 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    elperello wrote: »

    Which makes theirs and Trumps constant ranting about 'Mainstream Media' even more delusional.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,592 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    sideboard wrote: »
    so it's the Coronation Street of US television...any (unbiased) news on it?

    Not really that would be The Young and The Restless.

    Most Americans only watch the local stations news bulletins if they watch any news at all.

    Is Fox biased? Good question I suppose it depends on your bias.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,594 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    elperello wrote: »

    This is less than 1% of the population of America.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    Death of Stalin is fantastic, thoroughly recommend it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,365 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    What an annoying interviewer Pat Kenny is.
    Always thinking he knows more than the experts in the field.
    Constantly butting in and bullying to get his own view across and let everyone know how knowledgeable he is.
    All about him.
    Can’t stand the moron.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    What an annoying interviewer Pat Kenny is.
    Always thinking he knows more than the experts in the field.
    Constantly butting in and bullying to get his own view across and let everyone know how knowledgeable he is.
    All about him.
    Can’t stand the moron.

    No point in listening to his show if you feel like that? I feel the same way about Tubridy never listen to his show.


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