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24-01-2020, 08:01   #1
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So a horse trots into a gym ....

Yes, it sounds like the start of a joke but it actually happened in one Limerick town, as reported by a councillor recently.

From Breaking News this morning: Independent councillor PJ Carey called on gardaí to rein in children as young as six riding sulkies in Kilmallock which, he says, is turning into the “Wild West”. And the local park, aptly called the People’s Park, and memorial wild flower garden in the town is used for the illegal grazing of the horses. One local man said "why should he scoop the poop of his dog when the park is covered in horse ****?". Well, that is a very good question.

The town has a serious issue with anti-social behaviour, so here is my suggestion for the politicians canvassing the area: remove the horses, seize the sulkies that are used illegally, fine the parents of the children who are riding these sulkies, fine the people illegally cutting holes in fences of public spaces in order for their horses to graze.

In order words, apply the law to stop this issue. The politicians will find that when one aspect of anti-social behaviour is properly dealt with, then it has a knock-on effect on other anti-social behaviour, and life will improve for all the citizens in the community. The mind boggles on why ordinary, law-abiding people have to put up with this.
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The children obviously, not the horses
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24-01-2020, 08:42   #4
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Or maybe ask your canvassing politicians what their stance is on animal abuse.

Making light of it,” oh, he rode his horse into a gym, ha, ha “ is just glorifying it..

The reality is these horses load a terribly sad life, beaten abused, sold for a tenner. Abandoned in the fields to starve to death.

Close down the Scumbag horse fairs would be a big start. How many’s families stolen beloved family dogs turn up there.?

If you’ve any spare cash, consider donating to My Lovely Horse Rescue on the frontlines facing this cruelty daily.

The other breaking news story today about horses is that a young horse was viciously stabbed to death in a Horse Rescue in Longford.

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24-01-2020, 09:10   #5
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Met a horse in a pub few weeks ago. He'd been telling me will about the fantastic wins he had - gold cup, grand national, Aintree etc. I asked him if he's doing so well, how come the long face?
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Don't worry - it is nothing that a dedicated senate seat won't fix.
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Or maybe ask your canvassing politicians what their stance is on animal abuse. Making light of it,” oh, he rode his horse into a gym, ha, ha “ is just glorifying it..
The reality is these horses load a terribly sad life, beaten abused, sold for a tenner. Abandoned in the fields to starve to death.
Close down the Scumbag horse fairs would be a big start. How many’s families stolen beloved family dogs turn up there.?If you’ve any spare cash, consider donating to My Lovely Horse Rescue on the frontlines facing this cruelty daily.The other breaking news story today about horses is that a young horse was viciously stabbed to death in a Horse Rescue in Longford.
From the OPs post - what was described is certainly an animal control issue - with those flouting existing laws needing to be dealt with by the relevant authorities. The linked newspaper article details some of the very real problems for the other residents of that town. The fact that a horse did enter into a gym is also reported. And again is an example of the type of antisocial behaviour being engaged in. I didnt read it as 'ha ha' or it being made light of

No one is saying a horse being stabbed is anything but abuse of an animal - but throwing your money at some animal rescue charity up the country is not going to solve the countryside problem of horses been allowed left to fly graze or being used for these types of activities by children etc.

And yes politicians should be interrogated why such behaviour is being allowed ie not actively dealt with

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Here the local politicians have condemned it. But they don't control law enforcement. Law enforcement in Ireland is a strange thing politically. For our national political class, having a law written down is 'job done' and hands are washed. They don't want to know after that and in discussion on the issue will simply point to the law they made.
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The subculture permitted to do as they please yet again.
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From the OPs post - what was described is certainly an animal control issue - with those flouting existing laws needing to be dealt with by the relevant authorities. The linked newspaper article details some of the very real problems for the other residents of that town. The fact that a horse did enter into a gym is also reported. And again is an example of the type of antisocial behaviour being engaged in. I didnt read it as 'ha ha' or it being made light of

No one is saying a horse being stabbed is anything but abuse of an animal - but throwing your money at some animal rescue charity up the country is not going to solve the countryside problem of horses been left to fly graze or being used for these types of activities by children etc.

And yes politicians should be interrogated why such behaviour is being allowed ie not actively dealt with
With due respect, it’s not “some animal charity up the Country”, and it’s not throwing your money either.

They recently rescued little Mikey in Cork, a tiny Shetland Pony dying at the side of a road in Cork having been used as dog bait. That got countrywide coverage.

Animal abuse doesn’t just happen “up the Country”.

Not the OP, but there is a certain element of ha ha, a horse in a gym, a horse in a drive through, a horse in a lift. Not sure how anyone could miss it.

The anti social element is one side of it, but the animal welfare one is way overdue in this Country and politicians should be grilled about it.

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Yes, it sounds like the start of a joke but it actually happened in one Limerick town, as reported by a councillor recently.

From Breaking News this morning: Independent councillor PJ Carey called on gardaí to rein in children as young as six riding sulkies in Kilmallock which, he says, is turning into the “Wild West”. And the local park, aptly called the People’s Park, and memorial wild flower garden in the town is used for the illegal grazing of the horses. One local man said "why should he scoop the poop of his dog when the park is covered in horse ****?". Well, that is a very good question.

The town has a serious issue with anti-social behaviour, so here is my suggestion for the politicians canvassing the area: remove the horses, seize the sulkies that are used illegally, fine the parents of the children who are riding these sulkies, fine the people illegally cutting holes in fences of public spaces in order for their horses to graze.

In order words, apply the law to stop this issue. The politicians will find that when one aspect of anti-social behaviour is properly dealt with, then it has a knock-on effect on other anti-social behaviour, and life will improve for all the citizens in the community. The mind boggles on why ordinary, law-abiding people have to put up with this.
OP don't you know it would be racist to interfere with the culture of certain ethnic groups.
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After the animal abuse, what infuriates me are the politicians/local "spokespeople" who will defend this behaviour by saying things like, "How else are they going to graze their horses if the council won't give them land".

Maybe don't have fncking horses if you don't have the land or stables to keep them. FFS.

Why this isn't dealt with, I don't know. 20 Gardai and a few horseboxes. Take them away, bring them to a rescue. If they want the horses back they have a week to come up with €1,000.

Also have to deal with the source of it. Microchips should have a full history on them so the last known owner can be tracked down and prosecuted.
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A horse walks into a bar and takes a seat.
The barman asks...why the long face?
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I don't know why people keep saying Why does this keep happening? Why don't the guards put a stop to it ? We all know why, Ethnic minority status has solidified the long held unofficial perks given to "travellers". Before this they got away with it through intimidation and an element of "..aah leave them at it its not worth the hassle". I know guards who have said they wouldn't want to draw the travellers onto them as they would go out of their way to intimidate and make life difficult. Now as well as that they have government backing, if you think the law is applied evenly across both communities your deluding yourself.

In before "ooo another have a go at the travellers thread"
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I don't know why people keep saying Why does this keep happening? Why don't the guards put a stop to it ? We all know why, Ethnic minority status has solidified the long held unofficial perks given to "travellers". Before this they got away with it through intimidation and an element of "..aah leave them at it its not worth the hassle". I know guards who have said they wouldn't want to draw the travellers onto them as they would go out of their way to intimidate and make life difficult. Now as well as that they have government backing, if you think the law is applied evenly across both communities your deluding yourself.

In before "ooo another have a go at the travellers thread"
It's nothing to do with "government backing" or protecting culture, that's all rubbish.

It is all to do with the fact that Gardai don't want to have to deal with the ****storm that such actions will cause - both physically from the people who will attack the Gardai, and politically from the level of whining it'll cause.

There are no protections; legal or otherwise that permit animals to be kept in substandard conditions. It's merely a lack of will.

Look at the greyhound scandal. Look at puppy farms. Animal abuse is rife across the country and nobody with the power to do anything, cares about it.
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