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Caroline Flack found dead

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    #122
    Strazdas
    Registered Users Posts: 18,062 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    ted1 wrote: »
    Makes you realise that Harry Susessx and his wife did the correct thing getting away from them.

    Good point......they're better off well out of it.

    The majority of well known public figures can probably cope with social media negative attention, but those with mental health issues, anxiety, depression etc are very vulnerable.


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    #123
    MoonUnit75
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    There’s definitely a lesson in this for the ‘ibelieveher’ crowd. Felt at the time it could have easily had a similar outcome. At the same time though, what she did was surely attempted murder.


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    #124
    One eyed Jack
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    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    You really can’t. I’m not trying to be an edge lord or whatever cool and edgy word you want to try to use.

    She viciously attacked her husband while he slept. You can’t excuse that if he had attacked her you wouldn’t even consider trying to.


    You can’t.

    You don’t speak for me.


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    #125
    RasTa
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    Her husband?


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    #126
    AudreyHepburn
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    RasTa wrote: »
    Her husband?

    Is he not her husband? Boyfriend then.

    Sorry about that but does it really matter?


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    #127
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users Posts: 6,175 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    This tragic individual was on a destruction trajectory...the harm she was inflicting was beginning to escalate.

    There is a genuine sickness that has taken a grip on society, and you kind of get the feeling the root cause is not being addressed.


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    #128
    One eyed Jack
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    RasTa wrote: »
    Her husband?


    Audrey meant her boyfriend.

    The boyfriend who wanted the charges of assault dropped, nothing of which has anything to do with her suicide. It’s just thrown in there as though her taking her own life was evening the score or something, she’s on the same level as Alan Hawe now apparently :rolleyes:


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    #129
    RasTa
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    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    Is he not her husband? Boyfriend then.

    Sorry about that but does it really matter?

    Yeah, he said she did nothing wrong in all this stuff before the media got involved.


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    #130
    strandroad
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    Vincent Vega wrote: »
    Wouldn't know what to believe :confused:

    I see a lot of people stating this as fact but why did he deny it?

    It was reported at the time that she cut herself during the incident. Could be hers.


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    #131
    tdf7187
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    Reminds me of the cliche that suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. It's not as though she killed anyone, she would likely have been let off with a caution or at worst a suspended sentence.


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    #132
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    RasTa wrote: »
    Yeah, he said she did nothing wrong in all this stuff before the media got involved.

    Quite often the victim doesn’t want to press charges. It's no proof of innocence.


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    #133
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    Audrey meant her boyfriend.

    The boyfriend who wanted the charges of assault dropped, nothing of which has anything to do with her suicide. It’s just thrown in there as though her taking her own life was evening the score or something, she’s on the same level as Alan Hawe now apparently :rolleyes:

    When or where did I ever say her suicide evened the score? Do you really think I’m that sick minded?

    I also never compared her to Alan Hawe. I never even mentioned his name.


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    #134
    razorblunt
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    Vincent Vega wrote: »
    Wouldn't know what to believe :confused:

    I see a lot of people stating this as fact but why did he deny it?
    osNv2vs.jpg?1

    That scumbag Dan Wooton the entertainment reporter is weeping on twitter for her, making it about himself at the same time too he ran the story that was the damage she caused in the original article


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    #135
    [Deleted User]
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    RasTa wrote: »
    Yeah, he said she did nothing wrong in all this stuff before the media got involved.

    You would wonder why he rang the police then......


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    #136
    ShagNastii
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    brevity wrote: »
    The gutter press and social media mobs are disgusting imo.

    No consideration or empathy.

    It’s hardly surprising given who it is but The Sun have been deleting all their negative stories relating to Caroline Flack from their website. Utter scum.


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    #137
    [Deleted User]
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    Vincent Vega wrote: »
    Wouldn't know what to believe :confused:

    I see a lot of people stating this as fact but why did he deny it?
    osNv2vs.jpg?1

    Doesn't the stain in the carpet look like Ireland?


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    #138
    Darc19
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    The British tabloid media are scum.


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    #139
    Better Than Christ
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    It's true that if we were talking about a male abuser, the reaction would be very different. Attitudes towards female-on-male domestic violence have always been... flippant, to say the least. I had a fairly noticeable facial injury recently, as a result of a fall, and I was shocked at the amount of people (all men) who jokingly asked me if it was "the wife" who did it.

    But isn't it also true that there are some people out there (and perhaps even On Here) who, if her boyfriend had been accused of viciously assaulting her as she slept, would be using the "innocent until proven guilty" line of defence?


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    #140
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users Posts: 8,188 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    bubblypop wrote: »
    Doesn't the stain in the carpet look like Ireland?

    ah here... it does though, doesn't it?


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    #141
    Hannibal_Smith
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    Its so sad. She was such a great presenter and always looked so happy and bubbly.

    I dont think anyone can be certain about what happened, can we? Story his she hit him with a lamp while he slept. Didnt he come out in support of her afterwards?

    Im getting so tired of 'if the [gender] roles were reversed you wouldn't say that'. Can we not just have thoughts on a topic as it is? Genders, circumstances, incidents all add dimensions to a given story.

    Its very sad to think its all ended like this.


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    #142
    Shelga
    Registered Users Posts: 3,002 ✭✭✭Shelga


    This.


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    #143
    RasTa
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    bubblypop wrote: »
    You would wonder why he rang the police then......

    It's grand, she's dead now anyway.

    The correct outcome for all


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    #144
    razorblunt
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    Vincent Vega wrote: »
    Wouldn't know what to believe :confused:

    I see a lot of people stating this as fact but why did he deny it?
    osNv2vs.jpg?1

    That scumbag Dan Wooton the entertainment reporter is weeping on twitter for her, making it about himself at the same time too he ran the story that was the damage she caused in the original article


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    #145
    Purple Mountain
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    If that is the picture of the alleged scene of the alleged crime, then if a police officer leaked that picture, they should be fired on the spot.

    To thine own self be true



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    #146
    dark crystal
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    Better Than Christ wrote: »
    But isn't it also true that there are some people out there (and perhaps even On Here) who, if her boyfriend had been accused of viciously assaulting her as she slept, would be using the "innocent until proven guilty" line of defence?

    This was the point I made earlier in the thread. There had been no trial. No verdict, yet people are screaming about what an evil abuser she is. Attempted murder was even thrown out!

    Now she may well have been guilty, or there could have been a pair of them in it on the night, we'll now never know for sure, but if you're a proponent of innocent until proven guilty, surely that works with both genders? You can't complain about a skewed presumption of guilt placed on men and then turn around and make the same presumption about a woman. It completely destroys your argument.


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    #147
    razorblunt
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    bubblypop wrote: »
    Doesn't the stain in the carpet look like Ireland?

    So it’s our fault is it?
    Fight me!


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    #148
    Darc19
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    Purple Mountain wrote: »
    If that is the picture of the alleged scene of the alleged crime, then if a police officer leaked that picture, they should be fired on the spot.

    Do you really think a cop would be fired.

    It doesn't happen in the UK

    And no matter how incompetent they are or how many lies they tell, I assure you that it doesn't happen here either.

    Cops/gardai add 1+1 and get 22


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    #149
    spookwoman
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    The tabloids are scum.... the tabloids didn't put a lamp in her hand for her to allegedly beat her boyfriend with while he slept! TBH if the police pushed for her to go before the courts they must have had concerns for him or knew more and that may have come out in court, we don't know.

    Either way I think there are far more important things to be worried about in life.


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    #150
    Mam of 4
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    RasTa wrote: »
    It's grand, she's dead now anyway.

    The correct outcome for all

    How does a person taking their own life make it the correct outcome for all ?

    Wtf :(


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    #151
    [Deleted User]
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    spookwoman wrote: »
    The tabloids are scum.... the tabloids didn't put a lamp in her hand for her to allegedly beat her boyfriend with while he slept! TBH if the police pushed for her to go before the courts they must have had concerns for him or knew more and that may have come out in court, we don't know.

    Either way I think there are far more important things to be worried about in life.

    Definitely not worth the posturing that’s went on in this thread anyway. After reading up a bit on her, you’d wonder how many tributes or how much of a mod strength there would be for her boyfriend if she’d killed him.


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