Devil May Cry 5

one armed dwarf wrote: »

I'm not a fan of the revive mechanic either. I learned about that after posting that last post. If the 'you died' screen offers the option to pay for in-game MTX beside continue/quit then that's an ugly situation..

So this is a thing, the game over screen lets you pay to revive Dante if you want and as many times as you want

https://youtu.be/XGgG6mr-vs0?t=4510

Also the revive does damage to the boss

****ing lol

The problem is DMC5 doesn't really have a fail state. When Dante 'dies' he just sort of lays there a bit waiting to see if you have any orbs to revive him, or if you don't if you wouldn't mind just popping over to the MS store and buying some. Just a suggestion like.

I don't actually think the balance of the game will be changed by this (dunno about that Faust stuff) because DMC is hard enough as it is. But you can imagine a situation like where you're on DMD fighting Vergil or whatever and you die when he has a sliver of health left. Suddenly breaking open the wallet seems a lot more appealing.

They shouldnt be trying to design mechanics around the game to avoid taking the L when you die and that's not even getting into the ****tyness of the real money transaction side of it.

I played the DMC5 demo at an event at a London bar today, quick impressions is that it's way more floaty I think. I couldn't get a full grasp of that arm system as it seens like there's a lot to learn there so I stuck to the very basic DMC4 bread and butter. The timings for stuff feels different tho so it was hard to nail those basic attacks.



One thing is that helm breaker is mapped to back lockon and Y which screwed me up a lot, I'm surprised I got an A to be honest.

It's seems good but very hard to judge with such a short demo. I did manage to do the thing from the trailer where Nero throws the big car eating Goliath into a tower for massive damage, so that felt very cool.



One thing now is that there's way more opportunities to manually rev your sword, so that mechanic is more accessible. The timing for instant rev is the same tho.

The big thing I come away from is feeling it might be slower than DMC4, which isn't necessarily a bad thing but I do feel some sort of buffering between movement as Nero adjusts to his next animation state. This might contribute to my feeling a little rudderless on the aerial combat.

The demo boss is a lot like the one at the start of DMC4 but I had more fun with him. It's a good tutorial for bullying big enemies and managing your position and iframe and stuff.

V to me looks like they took a magic-casting class from an action RPG game like Dragon's Dogma (which was the last game the DMC devs did) and are trying to work it into a technical action game

I get a lot of people are put off by how slow V looks (and how edgy he is) but I reckon he could be the darkhorse of DMCV when it comes to combat mechanics. Especially as you're controlling two dudes.

My impression is it is taking some of the big magic-casting stuff from the summoner class from Dragon's Dogma (even has that same meteor spell at around 0:52) and taking the slow-walk combat style from Vergil in DMC4 and marrying that with the way Lady played in DMC4SE which was all about keeping range and only occasionally engaging up close.

Could all be a disaster but I'm more excited to see how it works than Dante or Nero which looks business as usual. I foresee a lot of setup-type attacks between V and his sarcastic Iago parrot friend guy.


One thing I am a bit concerned with is the game kind of looks altogether a bit slower than older DMC games. V is V and I don't mind that he is slow cause it's a whole new character class but that hefty movement that Dante and Nero have in their attacks makes me feel like they're sacrificing the twitchiness of the old games to make it look more realistic or something. The fact that the demo for Nero doesn't have enemy step is frustrating cause it would be useful to see if a lot of the same old tricks work in this new combat engine.

It's not the end of the world as DMC has always been slower than Bayo and Ninja Gaiden and has been more about fewer but more meaningful actions-per-minute as opposed to mashing like crazy. It's never really been a speed thing with the series. But I hope we are still allowed to break the game like we could in 3 and 4. Hell even DmC allowed you to fuk around with it.

I also really don't like the colour palette of the game. It looks too grimy. At first impression with the E3 trailer it looked like DmC which had a great visual style but everything they've shown since has been this black and grey slimy looking thing. Not very stylish.

I like the London-esque setting at least.

If you've ever been curious about what it is that people dig about DMC3 and 4 but find those games obtuse and unwelcoming then DmC is the game for you. By which I mean it's cut from the same cloth as classic DMC but streamlines the onboarding and speeds you along to the point you're able to mess around with its free-flowing combat and discover **** by yourself without your hand being held.

It doesn't hit the same highs as DMC3 and the boss fights are mechanically basic (a lot of them are just big heads with glowing weak spots) but there's a great game in there. It's also maybe the closest I've seen a game come to look like its concept art.

Where it falters for me is it plateaus too quickly at higher difficulties. The original release had that thing where certain enemies wouldn't take damage from certain weapons, but even as they fixed that there's maybe only two enemies in the game where I feel like they got it right when it comes to providing a real interesting challenge (those witches and the dudes who teleport and parry your attacks back at you)