Devil May Cry 5

Azza · 13-05-2019 11:30am

Robert ninja wrote: »

It was 60fps even in PAL region. We had 2 60hz TVs in the house at the time.

If I'm not mistaken that's an image from DMC 3.

As far as I can tell from looking it up online DMC 1 on PS2 didn't have a 60hz mode in PAL regions. DMC 2 and 3 did though.

one armed dwarf · 06-06-2019 10:05am

PAL version of DMC1 was 50HZ with borders.

If you get DMC5 on PC there's some cool mods out there which restore some stuff that is missing in this game. Like "inertia" from DMC4, which is how you can carry momentum between different attacks and have finer control over how the characters move in the air. (in DMC5 characters sort of 'stop' or stall in the air when you cancel out of an attack, which is less fluid than in DMC4). People have taken out some of the recovery frames from attacks as well. They're already making combo videos out of these mods

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrc1Nkv-EH0

I've got the platinum now but I'm still playing this, trying to see if I can beat bosses on DMD without taking damage.

Azza · 16-06-2019 11:05pm

F**k you stage 99 Urizen....f**k you.

Mr.Fantastic · 30-08-2019 12:20pm

Thinking about picking this up for 30 squids tomorrow?

Is it worth it?

enjoyed DMC1+ DMC4 back in the day and even the DMC reboot.

ancapailldorcha · 30-08-2019 12:21pm

Mr.Fantastic wrote: »

Thinking about picking this up for 30 squids tomorrow?

Is it worth it?

enjoyed DMC1+ DMC4 back in the day and even the DMC reboot.

I don't regret buying it at all save for spending about 15 quid more than I had to. It's an excellent game.

Penn · 30-08-2019 12:24pm

Mr.Fantastic wrote: »

Thinking about picking this up for 30 squids tomorrow?

Is it worth it?

enjoyed DMC1+ DMC4 back in the day and even the DMC reboot.

I think if you enjoyed DMC4 you'll definitely enjoy DMCV. It's a great return to form for the series. Not without its flaws, but for 30 quid I'd call it a bargain.

Mr.Fantastic · 30-08-2019 12:36pm

Penn wrote: »

I think if you enjoyed DMC4 you'll definitely enjoy DMCV. It's a great return to form for the series. Not without its flaws, but for 30 quid I'd call it a bargain.

Have Resi 2 still in the backlog , will be a coin flip on which gets started first.

I am spoiled haha.

one armed dwarf · 01-09-2019 12:36am

I'm still playing it, even tho its murder on the hands lol

Astral Chain has failed to grab me so far....

Mr.Fantastic · 16-09-2019 11:29pm

Finished this tonight , have to say I did enjoy it but felt it was a bit short.

Enjoyable though.

Retr0gamer · 17-09-2019 8:54am

Robert ninja wrote: »

It was 60fps

Late to the party here but DMC1 was famously 50Hz only in PAL territories.

It was such a poor conversion that there was massive uproar about it. Sony came under huge flak over it as the dreamcast had a PAL60 mode while the PS2 did not support it. It lead to Sony allowing developers to give the option of NTSC 60Hz in games.

Robert ninja · 17-09-2019 8:29pm

Glad I didn't play the PAL version then. Now if only there was an english language & NTSC version of Shinobido

Temptamperu · 25-11-2019 4:24pm

Nico is a stone cold fox.

K.O.Kiki · 26-11-2019 4:27pm

Temptamperu wrote: »

Nico is a stone cold fox.

More like a weird gun nerd, also possibly bisexual, mostly just super fun though.
I'd have a few beers with her.

Temptamperu · 26-11-2019 7:06pm

If anything happens her, so help me god i will smash this controller.

Robert ninja · 26-11-2019 7:56pm

Kyrie should've gone more screentime. All we get is her voice from the kitchen and a phone call. She's much nicer than Nico trailer girl :pac:

B.A._Baracus · 27-11-2019 9:58am

I've been playing this recently and finished mission 5. It'a alright... remember the first 4 games being better. Not that this is bad. Just missing something...?

Am I crazy? :pac:

Stone Deaf 4evr · 27-11-2019 10:06am

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I've been playing this recently and finished mission 5. It'a alright... remember the first 4 games being better. Not that this is bad. Just missing something...?

Am I crazy? :pac:

I finished it about a week ago, I thought it was only fair as well, the levels were very linear, and then it all wrapped up quickly. I didnt like the controls much either, In many ways DmC was superior imo.

one armed dwarf · 27-11-2019 11:55am

Nero rescues the game for me, easily my favourite controlling character in gaming. WRT controls, it's a thing you can get used to. The whole thing where every attack is context sensitive on your character's orientation can be tough but I think it's the only way they can squeeze so many skills onto a controller.

DmC is probably better overall as a sort of more balanced action game and how it matches the style of the characters with levels that actually look interesting and a plot that tries to toe the line between edgy and stupid (but in a fun way). But it could never give me the hours of playtime that 5 does when it comes to experimenting with different fighting styles. Though I wouldn't say no to a sequel tbh (reboot Dante would need to get Nero's sword for me to be happy about it though...)

Been doing no damage runs against my favourite bosses (spoilers)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H380RCiFvP8

This is probably still my goty tbh. Just wish it had more content

Temptamperu · 27-11-2019 3:04pm

I played and finished this game in one day. Maybe the harder difficulties are a bonus for some people but I see it as treading old ground.

The last 2 fights were cheap too. Thank god I had about 20 yellow diamonds.

Robert ninja · 27-11-2019 8:23pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

remember the first 4 games being better

Love the way you don't even recognise the reboot as part of the series

johnny_ultimate · 27-11-2019 8:36pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I've been playing this recently and finished mission 5. It'a alright... remember the first 4 games being better. Not that this is bad. Just missing something...?

Am I crazy? :pac:

Nope, think it’s a pretty underwhelming game myself - just sort of lost interest a few chapters towards the end due to the insipid level design.

I have no doubt there are mechanical depths there for those who take the time, and it’s not a ‘bad’ game. This just didn’t really have much to offer me, and I’d rather replay Bayonetta than dig into this.

one armed dwarf · 28-11-2019 2:48pm

Robert ninja wrote: »

Love the way you don't even recognise the reboot as part of the series

Could just as easily be 'forgetting' DMC2 tbh :pac:

Robert ninja · 02-01-2020 2:36am

Finally finished bloody palace as V. I did some save scumming before every boss fight :pac: Did need to restore saves a couple of time. The agile Urizen fight is insane - definitely my personal hardest boss. It's on the uninstall queue now. I've still got some things to do with achievements and getting the last bar of health/DT but I probably won't bother.

EoinMcLovin · 28-09-2020 1:42pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL4tQAN-bCY

Dark Knight mode gameplay in the new special edition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfvERdKY0yY

one armed dwarf · 28-09-2020 1:47pm

We got 10 seconds of Vergil gameplay, lol

I'm not very hyped for SE. It's not coming to PC cause of ray tracing for some weird reason and a lot of the turbo stuff is easily achievable with mods anyway.

The thing that could change it is if 5's version of Vergil is absolutely insane but to date the best version of Vergil gameplay we've got has been from DmC of all things. Even the 4SE version is just a spammy powerhouse where you can mash buttons.

Bit of a cynical hot take but whatever, I was mainly hoping they would implement co-op in SE. I don't care much about Vergil.

Robert ninja · 28-09-2020 1:56pm

I was playing it from a shared steam library so I was definitely going to pick up the Special Edition if it included all the DLC and features they shown. But they've decided to favor consoles despite the PC players being the main community for the game since 4's PC version, with combo videos, all the biggest DMC content creators being on PC, modding etc. CAPCOM completely blew it again.

Azza · 28-09-2020 2:03pm

Capcom likely looked at the number and said the return on investment for implementing the additional game modes and RT on PC just wasn't worth it.

Oh well I got my worth out of the game long ago anyway.

Penn · 28-09-2020 2:10pm

I've read the raytracing on console will be limited too, only on 1080p, drops to 30fps, not available in Turbo or Legendary Dark Knight modes.

I'm not that fussed about that aspect of it anyway. Playable Vergil is all I'm interested in. Hoping he's playable in all levels like with DMC4:SE, rather than just swapping out for V in his levels.

one armed dwarf · 28-09-2020 2:23pm

The argument I'd heard is that hardware Ray Tracing on consoles is a little different to PC owing to it being AMD v Nvidia. I'm not sure if that's really the case but it makes me expect that Resident Evil will see the same thing where a new version comes to consoles and PC doesn't get it.

Which would be a shame cause that game would actually benefit from RT at least to fix the terrible screen space reflections which almost look like a glitch.

Robert ninja · 28-09-2020 2:39pm

RT getting in the way of SE not coming to PC is awful. Graphical upgrade are not what I like about SEs. Would be a nice-to-have for later if I upgrade though but still mad.

Azza · 28-09-2020 2:48pm

It is odd that the PC version is getting Vergil but not the other game modes.
I know if there is a market for Vergil, why not the other games modes as well?

Penn · 28-09-2020 2:53pm

Azza wrote: »

It is odd that the PC version is getting Vergil but not the other game modes.
I know if there is a market for Vergil, why not the other games modes as well?

I almost wonder if it's an optimality thing. That the minimum specs for the normal game wouldn't work for the increased speed or no. of enemies in the new modes. Same reason they're not coming to the PS4/XB1 versions. But not a PC gamer so I don't know what usually happens in that scenario.

Robert ninja · 28-09-2020 3:51pm

Penn wrote: »

But not a PC gamer so I don't know what usually happens in that scenario.

DMC3SE on console (6th gen) it was new character, turbo and some other miscellaneous content like a boss and costumes. Released to newer gen consoles and PC via some bad PC ports and HD collections.

DMC4 it was the PC release that brought back turbo and added the new LDK mode, 8th gen got those features too later on.
In all cases the Special Editions are released as a new product, not DLC, and has been available for purchase as their own release on all platforms eventually.

This will be the first to have a character as DLC outright to the original release and for consoles (9th gen) to be getting new features that originally PC was spearheading. You can compare requirements between DMC4 PC vs DMC4SE PC
https://store.steampowered.com/app/45700/Devil_May_Cry_4/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/329050/Devil_May_Cry_4_Special_Edition/

Penn · 28-09-2020 3:57pm

Robert ninja wrote: »

DMC3 on console (6th gen) it was new character, turbo and some other miscellaneous content like a boss and costumes. Released to newer gen consoles and PC via some bad PC ports and HD collections.

DMC4 it was the PC release that brought back turbo and added the new LDK mode, 8th gen got those features too later on.
In all cases the Special Editions are released as a new product, not DLC, and has been available for purchase as their own release on all platforms eventually.

This will be the first to have a character as DLC outright to the original release and for consoles (9th gen) to be getting new features that originally PC was spearheading.

I meant what happens to PC games in general (rather than the DMC games) if DLC contains things which the minimum specs of the game at the time of release aren't capable of handling? Is it just normally a case of "These are the new increased minimum specs required for the game & DLC"? What do people who only met the minimum specs for the base game do if they can't meet the minimum specs for the DLC?

Again, asking out of ignorance because I don't know. I'm just putting it forward as a possible theory as to why they may not want the hassle of including turbo/LDK modes for the PC version.

I get your point about the specs difference between DMC4 and DMC4:SE, but that wasn't a DLC, it was an updated version of the same game.

Retr0gamer · 28-09-2020 4:00pm

Because it's a PC game you can turn the settings down.

It's really not an excuse considering how scalable the engine is and options available to pc users.

Honestly don't see the reason to not release the new version for 40 euro.

one armed dwarf · 12-11-2020 4:24pm

Special edition is out, I still have to wait for PC DLC tho

There's some actual good Vergil gameplay out now that it's in expert player hands

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkMZ3yuHYZI

Very similar to DMC4, he's got a staccato rhythm where it's all sudden bursts of high damage attacks. A bit too powerful compared to the other characters though I think, I've never seen this boss deleted this fast.

brady12 · 11-01-2023 8:02pm

Over half way through this . I don't like fighting games and not biggest fan of hack and slash games either . I had to push myself to finish Bayonetta 3. I remember loving Devil may cry 4 back on ps3 alright . Playing 5 on ps5 and my god I think it's unreal . Playing as Dante has to be peak video games . Weapons/abilities just keep getting and better . Might actually give street fighter 6 a go after I heard some the team off this working on that .

Penn · 11-01-2023 8:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120095663#Comment_120095663

Yeah Dante's arsenal in this game is superb. I didn't really gel with Nero's devil breaker arms, and V's combat is actually a bit button-mashy while you keep V himself out of harms way. Dante's arsenal and combat though is just terrific.

The only thing I didn't really like about DMCV was the playable character constantly changing between missions. Felt like you were constantly having to change styles and rhythms.

I loved DMCV though. It was well worth the wait and delighted it did well. Fingers crossed for a DMC6!

Devil May Cry 5

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