Chelsea Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

spurs ahead of us inthe race for Luke Shaw.

That would be a disaster.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2514393/Tottenham-step-Luke-Shaw-Southampton-want-30million.html

Although the headline suggest Southampton want close to 30million. :eek:

Also this is bo**ocks :

Should Shaw move on it is thought he would prefer a move to White Hart Lane due to limited first-team opportunities being available at Stamford Bridge and Old Trafford

With Bertrand on the way out and Cole out of contract in the summer, if we buy Shaw he'd be walking into our 1st team.

Panthro wrote: »

Isn't he Chelsea fan?
Swing vote!

Yup hes a big Chelsea fan and self confessed on Twitter too.

We'd have to big money for him but hes exactly what we need.

Him and Wallace on opposite flanks wopuld sort us for about a decade.

Ideally we'd have 3 of those rotating, Dave is only what, 24?

Hes plenty left in the tank but hes good enough to start at most clubs as a RB and he wont want to hang around as a sub too long.

Ivan, while he is solid, offers nothing going forward of note.

Hes very average in that regard, defensively hes a rock but from a FB in our system we need a very good attacking FB, at the moment we dont have that and the one we have is playing right footed from the left.

Panthro wrote: »

What would you think of Ivanovic alongside Terry Gav?

Ivan at CB is more of a liability then Luiz IMO.

He has none of the footballing ability and hes more likely to let people run in behind him.

Ivan has a few flaws, basically hes being converted to a FB so when he goes into CB he often lets people go goal side of him, while thats not the worst thing in the world if youre playing FB, you'll probably have a DM or CB to cover you, at CB it means a CF is in on goal, we seen it last year a few times when hes caught ball watching and a CF ghosts in beyond him.

I cant trust Ivan at CB, it shows our overall reliance on JT thats hes the main starter now and even worse, that Cahill is his partner, Cahill is a decent footbalerl and a decent defender but hes not good enough long term to lead this team in JT's absence.

I know himself and Luiz won us both our European finals but Cahill is a stop gap at best IMO.

Whcih leaves us with Luiz who Jose doesnt seem to trust at CB even though I think hes got moments of brilliance coupled with moments of WTF that could cost us a goal or him a sending off.

ideally the back four would be Azp Luiz JT Cole but I cant see that happening any time soon.

http://lineupbuilder.com/?sk=1q7h

This is what we need, f**k defending.

Even better....

http://lineupbuilder.com/?sk=1q7p

Panthro wrote: »

I call this one..."TheCav"
http://lineupbuilder.com/?sk=1q83
:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

Needs more the_monkey.

He could be manager I guess and let us know after 1 loss we'll be relegated. :pac:

Just get in Shaw during the summer for the long term, Azp and Cole are more then capable of playing on the left in the mean time.

peteeeed wrote: »

and Bertrand . played a couple of really good games then never got a look in

Hes not good enough though and Jose must think so too if hes playing the RB on the left side. :pac:

peteeeed wrote: »

i rate him, better going forward then cole or az but gets caught out defensively on occasion but as i said thought he played really well in the couple of games he played so far this season . i wonder will Patrick van Aanholt get a look in , vitesse are top of the dutch league and he got a call up to the full dutch national team last week

Lucky your not the manager so. :pac:

Bertie isnt great and isnt going to be a long term Cole replacement, ideally what would happen is we sell Bertie, Cole leaves, shaw is bought and PVA and Shaw battle out for the LB spot.

Rodgers has had Bertie at Reading before so he'll know him and playing games will help him but I'd be seriously doubting him as a top class FB.

On one side we've Ivan whos useless going forward but solid as a FB and offers alot from set pieces in both boxes.

The only problem is Shaw wont be cheap and Southampton will want big money for him.

mike65 wrote: »

Liverpool are definitely in for Martín Montoya who can play left back so maybe Bertrand is just the fall back. Seems unlikely two FBs will be bought.

If hes a CB mainly ye'd probably have a similar problem that we have with Ivan.

Look we'll call it quits, you can have Moses and Bertrand for 8million, a buy one, get one free deal.

peteeeed wrote: »

i would love shaw to come , will cost a fair whack but he is a chelsea fan , looks like this will be cole's last year so a good young left back is a must

Coentrao would be cheaper, IMO but his wages would be a lot more then Shaws.

Coentrao is only what, 25/26, Shaw is only 18 so if we have to pay 20-25 million it will be an investment for the next decade at least, think of someone like Rooney costing Utd 30million when he wass 18, hes paid the back in spades, Shaw could posibily do the same for us.

We've found our new left back lads, dont worry, and hes a belter.

Hazard, so often an influential figure on the pitch from an attacking point of view, then revealed where he would like to play given the opportunity to choose another position, saying: 'I would be a left-back or right-back because there is a lot of running involved, although I prefer running with the ball at my feet.'

So a solid, compact Southampton, to combat this we need width, plenty of it.

Cech
Azp Cahill JT Cole
Ramires Mikel
Schurrle Mata Hazard
Torres

that line up gives us attacking FB's and wingers that will take on and commit people, also gives Oscar a rest and drops Lamps as Southampton will break on the counter so a sitting Mikel is better suited then a Lmaps that will be caught out of position.

peteeeed wrote: »

'Now is the time for the squad. It's time for everybody to feel that they have a chance

that to me says 'MATA'

maybe cole and yes i'm going to say it essien

I've no problem with Essien but in an EPL game against a good team I'd be surprised if he was played.

We do need some rotation though and if my team is correct thats 7 changes from the Basel game which is a truck load.

Panthro wrote: »

No harm in ringing in the changes from the team asgainst Basel IMO.
They all looked pretty knackered, the ones who didn't (Cech and Mikel) are the ones who don't have to run about the place too much!

Changes have to be made, I just hope we can keep up with the top of the table, Southampton have looked very good at the back, apart from Borucs f**k up at the Emirates recently so getting chances will be few and far between, we need Mata to play and unlock the defence but keep Hazard and Willian or Schurrle bombing down the line.

I'd say drop Frank but I'd be surprised if it wasnt Lamps and Ramires.

McDave wrote: »

The problem is you need leadership in midfield. Lampard can lead, but he doesn't have the legs anymore. Ramires is no leader. De Bruyne? Not a chance. The only other option is Mata. But it's almost like Mata is perma-benched to avoid injury in advance of a January transfer.

If Mata is played in the "number 10" role then all well and good, only Oscar, of all the attacking midfield talent has a chance of playing CM IMO.

He has the legs and ability to throw himself around to at least compete from deeper, especially against Southampton.