Iran Did Do It..............says Trump

alchemist33 wrote: »

No, but I've know the odd Iranian. I have no desire to see innocent people killed over nothing. Why do you?

If the Iranians are disrupting the world's oil trade in the straight of Hormuz then the problem needs to be dealt with. For the greater good.

Nobody is calling for the killing of innocent civilians

_blaaz wrote: »

What if its not iran

What if it is

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

I believe it’s either a false flag by the US or it’s allies, or the allies (Saudi) are misleading the US.

Iran has no reason to do this. And the original story has been mostly debunked anyway.

Your conclusion is definitely possible. Nonetheless I wouldn't be against the Us enforcing a regime change to a party more favourable to Western interests. Control of the oil supply will become more and more important going forward.
I would prefer an American led global economy than a Chinese.
The balance may eventually shift.

The only thing you need to know about Trump is this: the only reason he has not been indicted, is because he is the President. if he loses the election in 2020, he will be arrested and charged and will die in jail, just like his campaign adviser Paul Manafort.

Trump knows this.

What you will see over the next 18 months will be a barrage of lies, criminality and the worst of human life. An invasion of Iran is a certainty. The next 18 months is going to be horrific for the US, and possibly all of us. The only hope we have is that he is impeached by his own colleagues in the Republican Party. He has already said he won't stand down, as Nixon did, so we are in for a very rough ride. He is already "wagging the dog" in Iran, and invasion seems a certainty and will result in thousands of civilian deaths.

He may be a fat orange clown, but we are in for a hellish 18 months. 18 months that all Americans should remember next time they go to a polling booth.

Not much consolation for the Iranian family, dropping their children to school, before the US bombs begin to fall on them to keep Trump out of jail.

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

You haven’t been paying attention if you think that American led wars in the Middle East have promoted stability in any way, shape or form.

Iraq's oil fields were opened up to American companies who now control many of them.
Mission accomplished.

Destabilising the region is only collateral damage. Not important

The entire incident has been co-ordinated by Saudi Arabia. Anyone with a glimmer of intelligence knows this.

There is absolutely no appetite among Americans for invading Iran. This is where Trump will come unstuck.

Trump won the swing states by 77,000 votes in total in 2016. Clinton won the popular vote by 2.8M votes. Trump will lose the 2020 election by a landslide, as the Republicans lost the 2018 elections by enormous margins.

No one wants to say this, but he has zero chance of being re-elected, not a hope in hell.

Dog Man Star wrote: »

True, but you're not taking Trump's view. Trump doesn't care about Iran nor the US, only votes, and a war wins votes. John Bolton in his ear, a war to get him re-elected, a war will happen. I am telling you now, Trump will invade Iran within the next two months.

Let's make a bet on both.

You say trump won't be elected and the Us will invade Iran in the next 2 months.
I say the opposite.

Dog Man Star wrote: »

Not a chance. Trump ran on promises last time, he has delivered nothing. Warren will win the nomination and she will destroy him.

There is not a chance in hell he will be re-elected, not a hope.

The Us economy is booming. This is all that matters. People are working and have more money.

Dog Man Star wrote: »

Not a chance in hell Trump will be re-elected, not a chance.

The US want to invade Iran. My only caveat is I am not sure whether Trump needs congressional approval. I am also not sure whether they need the approval of an Ally. But I will research both and let you know.

Just a bet on the election then.

The possibility of an invasion has too many factors at play. Messy

Dog Man Star wrote: »

Yes, Trump camp keeps saying that, but Trump has not even broken 50% approval, the worst in history. I don't think Americans believe a word he says. They don't have more money, it is tax season and none have reported a higher rebate than usual. Some have actually owed the tax office money.

So your three statements don't stand up to the truth test. It is easy to get low unemployment for wages that are so low, that they cannot support a single person.

On that note, Kamala Harris was in McDonalds pushing a minimum wage and Warren is also pushing a minimum wage, likewise Sanders.

Who will you vote for? Trump telling you the economy has never been better, or Warren who says your $7 an hour will be $15 an hour under her adminstration, funded by billionaire tax hikes.

Hmmmm, tough one.


That noise is the sound of another blue tidal wave in 2020.

Use the stock market as an indicator of how the economy is doing.
It is booming.

Why should someone on minimum wage be able to afford everything anyway? It's no different here.
It's the very bottom. It should just be enough to keep someone out of homelessness. If you want better then you must work for it. Extra qualifications etc.
The US do not have a ridiculous welfare policy like we have in Europe where people are rewarded for lack of ambition.
It's the home of capitalism.

Warren etc are full of it. The billionaires will pay through taxation. Don't make me laugh. That's pie in the sky populism

Blueshoe wrote: »

Use the stock market as an indicator of how the economy is doing.
It is booming.

Why should someone on minimum wage be able to afford everything anyway? It's no different here.
It's the very bottom. It should just be enough to keep someone out of homelessness. If you want better then you must work for it. Extra qualifications etc.
The us do not have a ridiculous welfare policy like we have in Europe where people are rewarded for lack of ambition.
It's the home of capitalism.

Warren etc are full of it. The billionaires will pay through taxation. Don't make me laugh. That's pie in the sky populism

Who the hell uses the Dow Jones to measure how they are doing?

Nurses earn minimum wage, their work is not good enough according to you?

And, sorry for laughing, billionaires paying their fair share is "populism"?

****ing hell. You need to go back to school. My god, that is an embarrassing post. Dear oh dear!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA

Holy jaysus, I've seem some excrement in my time, but your "thoughts and ideas" take the biscuit. What a stream of unintelligent ****e on a stick. A human being wasting space who should have a plastic bag wrapped around their head until they take their last breath.

There is definitely a ramping up of propaganda.

BBC are leading with a British Citizen on Hunger Strike. She is in prison in Tehran for Espionage.

Both Britain and the US are categorically stating that Iran are behind the oil tanker bombings.

Why would the Iranian government bomb oil takers in the Gulf of Persia?
Why the phuck would they bother?

Nasty stuff.