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Clare GAA Discussion - 2024 All Ireland Hurling Champions

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    full run down on who scored and in some ways lack of scoring over league and championship

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,148 ✭✭✭letowski


    full run down on who scored and in some ways lack of scoring over league and championship


    7 scores in 4 games from our starting full forward line :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    letowski wrote: »
    7 scores in 4 games from our starting full forward line :(

    1-2 in 4 games from john conlon , who was our best player last year '

    0-5 from play from our sweeper ,

    0-3 points from play for aidan mccarthy who only got cameo roles off the bench

    cathal mcinerney comes on scores equals podges scoring record in the space of 5 minutes

    the importance of squad rotation is huge our bench scored well the reason we are probably out so early is we didn't have enough faith in them to start them

    for playmaking alone jason mccarthy, ryan taylor and diarmuid ryan brought to the team yesterday , they were the changes to make after the tipp game really


  • Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭Sir Guy who smiles


    too complicated in his approach , if you are going outside the county you would want to be talking about eamon o'shea of mike ryan from tipperary , there style of play would suite us much more

    Someone else suggested Daly to do the fire and brimstone stuff, with a more technical no.2. I think O'Shea would be ideal for that, same job he did for Liam Sheedy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    Maybe we could even coax Fanning away from Waterford

    Rumor has it the Waterford players didn't want him at all...... They wanted Mattie kenny


  • Registered Users Posts: 673 ✭✭✭supernova5


    Originally Posted by caddy16 View Post
    Incredible point from Sean Ronan in the minor game near the end, looking forward to seeing it again tonight.
    https://twitter.com/GAA__JOE/status/...785155584?s=19


    A totally astonishing score, must surely rank as one of the most outrageous seen on a hurling pitch.. [but probably a total fluke]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭Figerty


    supernova5 wrote: »
    Originally Posted by caddy16 View Post
    Incredible point from Sean Ronan in the minor game near the end, looking forward to seeing it again tonight.
    https://twitter.com/GAA__JOE/status/...785155584?s=19


    A totally astonishing score, must surely rank as one of the most outrageous seen on a hurling pitch.. [but probably a total fluke]

    No fluke. This guy has it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭funnyname


    How did the U20 footballers get on against Limerick last night?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Gael85


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    tricky assignment for the footballers tomorrow evening in carrick on shannon , they face a leitrim side on the crest of a wave all year , lost to mayo on penalties in the fbd league , before gaining promotion to division 3 and had a decent win at home against wicklow in round 1 of the qualifiers

    ryan o'rourke is one of the top scorers in the country with a total tally of 4-40 in both league and championship , along with ray mulvey and domhnaill flynn
    are decent forwards too so i expect them to put up a score

    we do have an advantage in the middle , the rossies exposed them badly in this area of the field in the connacht championship , emylin mulligan is a huge loss for them also he and one or two more have gone abroad for the summer

    i expect clare to win but it should be very close given how well o'rourke is playing , dean ryan is back for the injured kevin hartnet while gavin cooney is in for darragh bohannon , a repeat of the second half against kerry would be enough to see us through , a similar performance to the first half of that game or the game against waterford and it will be close

    1: Stephen Ryan (Kilrush Shamrocks)
    2: Dean Ryan (Na Fianna)
    3: Cillian Brennan (Clondegad)
    4: Gordon Kelly (St Josephs Miltown)
    5: Conall Ó hÁiniféin (Éire Óg)
    6: Aaron Fitzgerald (Éire Óg)
    7: Sean Collins (Cratloe)
    8: Gary Brennan (Clondegad)
    9: Cathal O’Connor (Coolmeen)
    10: Sean O’Donoghue (Cooraclare)
    11: Eoin Cleary (St Josephs Miltown)
    12: Jamie Malone (Corofin)
    13: Gavin Cooney (Éire Óg)
    14: David Tubridy (Doonbeg)
    15: Cian O’Dea (Kilfenora)


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman




  • Registered Users Posts: 957 ✭✭✭BloodyBill


    I dont think Anthony Daly is the answer. Hes yesterdays man. He ll have Clare playing a sweeper again. It's time to go outside the county. Jaime Wall would be a brave choice and his mileage wouldn't be bad considering he lives in Limerick...plus hes got his own transport.


  • Registered Users Posts: 837 ✭✭✭False Prophet


    BloodyBill wrote: »
    I dont think Anthony Daly is the answer. Hes yesterdays man. He ll have Clare playing a sweeper again. It's time to go outside the county. Jaime Wall would be a brave choice and his mileage wouldn't be bad considering he lives in Limerick...plus hes got his own transport.
    Plays a sweeper, you mean modern hurling?
    Why wouldn't he or any manager be playing a sweeper when required? Granted I dont mean when playing with a gale and needing to chase a game!
    For me a manager and team needs to be flexible and varying approach depending on conditions and players(own and opposition).
    No point in just lining up 15 v 15 and get beaten like majority of the last 100 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Clare 3-17 Leitrim 0-17

    Comfortable win in carrick on shannon for the footballers , built up an early lead after 20 minutes of 2-08 to 0-2 , had two more point blank shots saved malone and cleary both denied by leitrim keeper cathal mccrann , the home side went point for point before half time , 2-12 to 0-6

    it was pretty much game over at that stage leitrim won the second half 0-11 to 1-05 as clare adopted a defensive strategy and emptied the bench , eimhin courtneys goal 15 minutes in to the second half made it 3-15 to 0-11 points the home side finished stronger kicking some excellent points from range outscoreing us 0-6 points to 0-2 in the final 1/4

    10th win qualifier for clare and 7th under collins hopefully we can continue the trend for another few weeks and see where it take us some big names in the hat for monday morning though , i am sure the county board would love us to get someone like mayo or tyrone at home as it would rake in the cash . personally i would prefer avoiding some of the bigger names for a few more weeks

    David Tubridy 0-05,
    Eoin Cleary 0-07
    Gary Brennan 1-03
    Jamie Malone 1-02
    Eimhin Courtney 1-00


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Clare 3-17 Leitrim 0-17

    Comfortable win in carrick on shannon for the footballers , built up an early lead after 20 minutes of 2-08 to 0-2 , had two more point blank shots saved malone and cleary both denied by leitrim keeper cathal mccrann , the home side went point for point before half time , 2-12 to 0-6

    it was pretty much game over at that stage leitrim won the second half 0-11 to 1-05 as clare adopted a defensive strategy and emptied the bench , eimhin courtneys goal 15 minutes in to the second half made it 3-15 to 0-11 points the home side finished stronger kicking some excellent points from range outscoreing us 0-6 points to 0-2 in the final 1/4

    10th win qualifier for clare and 7th under collins hopefully we can continue the trend for another few weeks and see where it take us some big names in the hat for monday morning though , i am sure the county board would love us to get someone like mayo or tyrone at home as it would rake in the cash . personally i would prefer avoiding some of the bigger names for a few more weeks

    David Tubridy 0-05,
    Eoin Cleary 0-07
    Gary Brennan 1-03
    Jamie Malone 1-02
    Eimhin Courtney 1-00

    Sean O'Donoghue had a great first half. Disappointing lack of impact from Clare subs..Clare lost their shape in second half particularly in last 10 minutes. Backed Gary Brennan anytime goalscorer at 17/2. My wife backed him too. Between us won 142.50 🙂


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    The footballers are away to Westmeath in the next round, not a bad draw considering some of the teams still in it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭BnB


    Clareman wrote: »
    The footballers are away to Westmeath in the next round, not a bad draw considering some of the teams still in it.

    Not a bad draw at all, even though I am sure they think the same up in Westmeath.


    For the 4 teams in Clare Vs Westmeath & Offaly Vs Laois, there is a great chance to have a right crack off making the super 8's. There are none of the 4 provincial losers that would have you quaking in your boots. Not saying they are terrible, but I think any of the 4 counties above would fancy their chances of putting it up to them


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Clare have a great chance of making it into super 8. Neutral venue next round too should they overcome Westmeath which i’d expect they will quite comfortably. They would fancy Cork particularly given the recent record.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    If it was in the league you'd imagine that home advantage would be huge for Clare or Westmeath so I wouldn't be counting our chickens just yet be we know we're good enough to beat them.

    I don't think there's a beaten provincial finalist that we'd be frightened off, the Super 8 is really achievable this year.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Clareman wrote: »
    If it was in the league you'd imagine that home advantage would be huge for Clare or Westmeath so I wouldn't be counting our chickens just yet be we know we're good enough to beat them.

    I don't think there's a beaten provincial finalist that we'd be frightened off, the Super 8 is really achievable this year.

    Personally I think we have better players then westmeath but there forwards are fairly good, ger Egan is flying for them,

    They also won division 3 so there confidence should be fairly high this will be there first game this year against a side outside of division 3 or 4 though


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    We have some of the best players going but the problem is we don't have enough of them and we've a weak bench, hopefully this won't be exposed. We've a great chance to make the Super 8s now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭spurshero


    9 to 2 to reach the super 8 s . Would give ye a good chance of winning sat and as ye day yerselves ye wouldn’t be afraid of Cavan Meath Galway or cork . Galway prob be the one to avoid even if I small bit biased but they mix the good with the bad as well. Anyway bout Getting over sat first Westmeath will fancy there chances


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,337 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Let’s worry about Westmeath first.
    That’ll be a tough game, really need to be at our best.

    Probably a good thing we could empty the bench at the weekend.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Really tough ask at the weekend, if it was at home I'm be confident, away not so much, game is down for 6 next Saturday so it won't be on TV


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Paddy Power has Westmeath as favourites, 8/11


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Clareman wrote: »
    Really tough ask at the weekend, if it was at home I'm be confident, away not so much, game is down for 6 next Saturday so it won't be on TV

    will be a tough ask this evening , westmeath like armagh this round last year are division 3 winners , when we won division 3 a few years back we got to the last 8

    today will be westmeaths first game against a side out side the bottom 16 in league or championship , they do have john heslin back to boost an already formidable forward line but at the back they wont be happy with some of there defending especially the goal conceded against limerick where iain corbett was let walk a ball into the net through several defenders

    from our point of view and i am sure westmeaths also both sides will be delighted to be heading in to a qualifier with a 50 50 chance of winning the draw could have been a lot worse on both teams a repeat performance of the first half v leitrim or the second v kerry will probably get us through , collins and brennan have been in the media all week talking up a good game so i would be hopeful we could land qualifier win number 11 overall and head into the last 12 of the championship but looking at the numbers below it could be very close

    there top scorers in the championship vs laois , waterford and limerick
    Ger Egan (0-21)
    Ronan O'Toole (1-5),
    Joe Halligan (1-4)
    Conor McCormack (0-3)
    Kieran Martin (0-3)

    clare top 5 scorers championship v waterford , kerry and leitrim
    Eoin Cleary 0-18
    Jamie Malone 1-7
    David Tubridy 0-8
    Gary Brennan 1-3
    Éimhín Courtney 1-0


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    https://twitter.com/GaaClare/status/1145023752616521733

    I'm only following on Twitter at the moment so I don't know how the game is going but Westmeath have lost 3 players (2 black cards and 1 injury) so hopefully they'll tire but looking at the scores 7 out of our 8 are from play whereas Westmeath have 4 out of 8 from frees.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman




  • Registered Users Posts: 837 ✭✭✭False Prophet


    Galway,cork,cavan,meath. Netrual venue.

    Not sure which would be easier.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Galway,cork,cavan,meath. Netrual venue.

    Not sure which would be easier.

    We've played them all in the league recently except Galway and I don't think we'd fear any of them, saying that they'd all probably want to play us or Laois.

    Personally I'd like to get Cork in Limerick and hopefully get a huge crowd out behind the lads


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭BnB


    What a great result for Colm Collins and his lads. One game away from the Super 8's.... Incredible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Clareman wrote: »

    great win , westmeath deserve huge credit especially to center back kerian martin who landed some monster scores in ger egans absence, they were extremely unlucky to lose egan to injury a huge player for them in fairness had scored 21 points in the championship for them and a total of 3-43 for the year, they were probably lucky not to lose john heslin to a red card who was given a black for a late hit on brennan , he was joined shortly afterwards by ronan o'toole who made a rugby tackle attempt on cathal o'connor

    we looked nervous for most of the game , nervous in our passing and our decision making , we played no where near the level of tempo and pace we can play to . we threatened to break away a few times but westmeath wouldn't die at any stage , they threw the kitchen at us in the last 5 minutes of normal time and 6 minutes of injury time , it required two super human catches from brennan in midfield from stephan ryan kick outs to stem the tide at the end

    it really is a massive win for clare , and football in the county going forward , any time we are favorites we rarely produce and often are found wanting , today we were made work to the end but showed a bit of steel today to see off the challenge to the end

    last week tomas o'shea ranked us lower then laois or westmeath and just above offaly in terms of teams left ,many people took him up the wrong way in his assessment ,
    he has always praised collins for the job he has done with us though and has regarded him as possibly one of the best coaches in the country ,

    its very hard to argue with him in that regard , today was clare's 11th qualifier win there 8th under collins since 2014 , prior to the collins era we had only won 3 qualifiers in 14 years ,which is a serious turn around , collins was persuaded by joe cooney to stay on another year at the end of last season probably his best move while head of the county board

    everything is a bonus from here on out , but making the super 8s would be huge for us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,333 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    everything is a bonus from here on out , but making the super 8s would be huge for us

    I'd love a trip to Ennis for the August Bank Holiday.

    Am sure we wouldn't mind playing ye in Ballybofey either.

    Good luck to ye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Clareman wrote: »
    We've played them all in the league recently except Galway and I don't think we'd fear any of them, saying that they'd all probably want to play us or Laois.

    Personally I'd like to get Cork in Limerick and hopefully get a huge crowd out behind the lads

    played galway 2 maybe 3 years ago up at pearse stadium , lost in difficult conditions by 4 or 5 points , i actually think walsh is damaging the team with his tactics

    galway have an excellent set of players , cormer is back in training i believe , they have guys like kieran molloy on the bench a seriously attacking team if let ,but walsh would prefer to play with 12 defenders , but cork are the team we would prefer why? league form .....no

    because we feel that if we had got cork in the munster championship even once in the last 5 years instead of kerry every year we could have overturned them , this would be a chance to get a championship victory against them for the first time in 22 years or see if it was all just a myth :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Redsoxfan wrote: »
    I'd love a trip to Ennis for the August Bank Holiday.

    Am sure we wouldn't mind playing ye in Ballybofey either.

    Good luck to ye.

    we would have no problem with ballybofey what so ever but that would mean we would have to play kerry the following week :rolleyes:

    we have met them more times in the last few years then dublin and meath did in the 90s !!

    no we want dublin's group every team gets hammered by them bar the few elite counties , we could lose that one by 30 points and no one would bat an eyelid at this stage followed by two gracious defeats to roscommon and cavan by less then 6 points or maybe the odd shock in one of them and live off the back of that for another few years :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,333 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    we would have no problem with ballybofey what so ever but that would mean we would have to play kerry the following week


    No, we would play Kerry the week after Ballybofey!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,148 ✭✭✭letowski


    Clare lost by 6 points in the minor.

    Limerick the better team in fairness. Absolutely clueless stuff from Fergal Lynch on the line. Players had no idea how to play a ball inside. Loads of mistakes, often they were hitting the ball out over the sideline to avoid the extra Limerick back. Im hopeful for this bunch as there is definite talent there, but there has to be serious concerns over Lynch and his management whether they are recieving the proper coaching to develop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Gael85


    great win , westmeath deserve huge credit especially to center back kerian martin who landed some monster scores in ger egans absence, they were extremely unlucky to lose egan to injury a huge player for them in fairness had scored 21 points in the championship for them and a total of 3-43 for the year, they were probably lucky not to lose john heslin to a red card who was given a black for a late hit on brennan , he was joined shortly afterwards by ronan o'toole who made a rugby tackle attempt on cathal o'connor

    we looked nervous for most of the game , nervous in our passing and our decision making , we played no where near the level of tempo and pace we can play to . we threatened to break away a few times but westmeath wouldn't die at any stage , they threw the kitchen at us in the last 5 minutes of normal time and 6 minutes of injury time , it required two super human catches from brennan in midfield from stephan ryan kick outs to stem the tide at the end

    it really is a massive win for clare , and football in the county going forward , any time we are favorites we rarely produce and often are found wanting , today we were made work to the end but showed a bit of steel today to see off the challenge to the end

    last week tomas o'shea ranked us lower then laois or westmeath and just above offaly in terms of teams left ,many people took him up the wrong way in his assessment ,
    he has always praised collins for the job he has done with us though and has regarded him as possibly one of the best coaches in the country ,

    its very hard to argue with him in that regard , today was clare's 11th qualifier win there 8th under collins since 2014 , prior to the collins era we had only won 3 qualifiers in 14 years ,which is a serious turn around , collins was persuaded by joe cooney to stay on another year at the end of last season probably his best move while head of the county board

    everything is a bonus from here on out , but making the super 8s would be huge for us

    Great result. Referee was terrible. After giving Westmeath black cards early in game, gave them everything after that, was poor for both teams. Cian O'Dea and Cillian Brennan were outstanding. Jamie Malone and Conal OhAinefein had great first half.Stephen Ryan kickouts were excellent. Gary Brennan pulled and bragged for whole game made 2 outstanding catches at the end. Showed excellent leadership when needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    letowski wrote: »
    Clare lost by 6 points in the minor.

    Limerick the better team in fairness. Absolutely clueless stuff from Fergal Lynch on the line. Players had no idea how to play a ball inside. Loads of mistakes, often they were hitting the ball out over the sideline to avoid the extra Limerick back. Im hopeful for this bunch as there is definite talent there, but there has to be serious concerns over Lynch and his management whether they are recieving the proper coaching to develop.

    yeah disappointed for the minors but to be fair they are probably ahead of where we would have taught they would be , they have two big games now against galway and kilkenny to redeem themselves

    agree slightly with the criticism of management , but to be fair the way modern hurling is going its probably no harm that players are used to playing systems obviously there is a huge elephant in the room too as they are probably being groomed for the second coming of you know who but thats another story altogether

    the wining and losing of the game was probably not the sweeper today but the concession of a goal less then 60 seconds after we got it back within 1 point from a shane meehan goal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Do Clare play Wexford now in minor semi final? Wexford won Leinster minor championship.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Gael85 wrote: »
    Do Clare play Wexford now in minor semi final? Wexford won Leinster minor championship.

    into a group of 3 with kilkenny and galway , wexford and limerick are in the all ireland semi finals


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,148 ✭✭✭letowski


    yeah disappointed for the minors but to be fair they are probably ahead of where we would have taught they would be , they have two big games now against galway and kilkenny to redeem themselves

    agree slightly with the criticism of management , but to be fair the way modern hurling is going its probably no harm that players are used to playing systems obviously there is a huge elephant in the room too as they are probably being groomed for the second coming of you know who but thats another story altogether

    the wining and losing of the game was probably not the sweeper today but the concession of a goal less then 60 seconds after we got it back within 1 point from a shane meehan goal

    I felt the Meehan goal was against the run of the play, we had just one point after 19 minutes of the second half. Lynch only decided to change to 15v15 until the 62nd minute.

    My problem was that the Limerick 6 was alot more dominant at the sweeper more so that Galvin. So the system wasnt working at all. Also our whole attack was to hit it to the corner away from him. Its very difficult for a 16/17 year old to hit a point from the sideline.

    I think on a whole Clare hurling needs to identify how they want to play and develop their players. Like if Doyle is playing a direct style of hurling for the 20s, Lynch is playing a sweeper for the 17s snd D&G are trying to carry the ball through the lines for the seniors.. I think there's a disconnect there. We havent been bringing through enough players in recent years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    Well I’m sure there is no chance Davy will be managing us after that win anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    Shocking stuff from the minor management team today. Left our talented players down in a big way with their stifling tactics.
    New managers required at both minor and senior as far as I can see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭Figerty


    Well I’m sure there is no chance Davy will be managing us after that win anyway.

    Ya Great result for Clare!
    Kilkenny have come back into pack at this stage.
    Limerick will be unstoppable if they maintain momentum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Figerty wrote: »
    Ya Great result for Clare!
    Kilkenny have come back into pack at this stage.
    Limerick will be unstoppable if they maintain momentum.

    not sure if it is , it just adds another inter two bob cup to his CV , if truth was known wexford would have been eliminated in munster had they been in our championship given there 3 draws and win against carlow

    today they were really good , there forwards were on fire and they could rattle tipp or dublin in the all ireland semi

    regardless of what wexford done today ,bruiser did not get the clare minor hurling job for no reason and is setting up the troops for the general (dictator even) to return


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    letowski wrote: »

    I think on a whole Clare hurling needs to identify how they want to play and develop their players. Like if Doyle is playing a direct style of hurling for the 20s, Lynch is playing a sweeper for the 17s snd D&G are trying to carry the ball through the lines for the seniors.. I think there's a disconnect there. We havent been bringing through enough players in recent years.


    i agree but soon all 3 teams , minor 20s and senior will all be set up the same way , the de facto just need to ussher aside the man from bodyke and the two adopted townies first


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Gael85 wrote: »
    Great result. Referee was terrible. After giving Westmeath black cards early in game, gave them everything after that, was poor for both teams. Cian O'Dea and Cillian Brennan were outstanding. Jamie Malone and Conal OhAinefein had great first half.Stephen Ryan kickouts were excellent. Gary Brennan pulled and bragged for whole game made 2 outstanding catches at the end. Showed excellent leadership when needed.

    agreed ,young brennan is excellent , o'dea is a fine reader of the game maybe not the best tackler in the world but very good sweeper and ball carrier

    young ryan is also excellent great understanding with the two boys in midfield plus some excellent kickouts against a force 4 yesterday in the second half

    as for gary , we probably dont deserve him , rumor had it at the time 7 or 8 years ago that kerry were trying to lure him down , he would walk on to there team in fairness he would probably be one of there better players he is that good

    if he was in tipperary , limerick cork or waterford he would be on there hurling panel and not playing football at all , he had a serious championship for ballyea last year in the club hurling championship and from open play was much better then niall desy his club mate and colin gilfoyle from newmarket who were called up to the panel ,

    i never cared what the rest of the country taught about clare football we all know on here at club level we are a duel county, as a west clare man however i always felt we never pulled enough weight at inter county level something colm collins has changed and hopefully it remains in future we need to keep it this way now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Shocking stuff from the minor management team today. Left our talented players down in a big way with their stifling tactics.
    New managers required at both minor and senior as far as I can see.

    one dimensional in fairness , bruiser deserves some credit of getting us this far if we had donal and gerrys game plan as plan B or a direct route as plan C we might have a chance in years to come though

    thanks davey !!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭Figerty


    not sure if it is , it just adds another inter two bob cup to his CV , if truth was known wexford would have been eliminated in munster had they been in our championship given there 3 draws and win against carlow

    today they were really good , there forwards were on fire and they could rattle tipp or dublin in the all ireland semi

    regardless of what wexford done today ,bruiser did not get the clare minor hurling job for no reason and is setting up the troops for the general (dictator even) to return

    True, but I think the standard in Leinster has dropped (Kilkenny really), Davy knew that coming in. It's obvious Kilkenny no longer have 15 as strong as they used to have.
    I think the interesting part of the the Championship now will to see if Dublin can step forward and show their teeth or will they fade away.


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