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Kerry Airport - News & Updates

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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Faro back in action this week so now have 6 Ryanair routes active (Luton/Stansted/Berlin/Hahn/Alicante/Faro) and the twice daily Stobart to Dublin.

    Quite a decent amount of general traffic in with a nice amount of transatlantic jets in over the last few weeks

    Good times for the airport


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,719 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    I don't get it.

    Kerry airport can support two routes to Germany.

    Yet SNN which has Limerick and Galway cities easily accessible, and which is closer to more people than Kerry, doesn't have any routes to Germany?

    What am I missing?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Geuze wrote: »
    I don't get it.

    Kerry airport can support two routes to Germany.

    Yet SNN which has Limerick and Galway cities easily accessible, and which is closer to more people than Kerry, doesn't have any routes to Germany?

    What am I missing?
    A lot of inbound German traffic to Kerry. If you look at Newquay it also has a route to Hahn which is inbound tourism dominated.

    Kerry would be a lot more of a tourist destination than Limerick or Galway.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Plenty of business/general traffic keeping Kerry ticking over at the minute too. 2/3 jets coming in from the States every week along with the usual Munster Joinery/Liebherr and plenty of Netjets/charter flights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Geuze wrote: »
    What am I missing?

    The fact that Shannon infact does have a route to Germany?

    As Marno above, the Kerry name is synonymous in Germany. Massive inbound tourism potential.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    The fact that Shannon infact does have a route to Germany?

    As Marno above, the Kerry name is synonymous in Germany. Massive inbound tourism potential.
    Shannon has a route to Germany but it's 1x weekly in summer and Kerry has 6x weekly services in Summer and 4x in Winter. Given the difference in airports/catchment area/etc it does appear counter intuitive if you remove the Kerry tourism element.

    Still, we are not complaining down here. It really is fantastic to see. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭Masala


    Geuze wrote: »
    I don't get it.

    Kerry airport can support two routes to Germany.

    Yet SNN which has Limerick and Galway cities easily accessible, and which is closer to more people than Kerry, doesn't have any routes to Germany?

    What am I missing?

    The Kerry tourism machine is a well oiled vehicle. They market well in Germany... have a good few German ex pats living there... have German industries and hotels based there. They have the best part of the Wild Atlantic Way ... great pubs... great walks blah blah blah!! Exactly what the German tourist is looking for.

    Feck they even have Fassbender who is German!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,719 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Thanks everybody.

    Munster Joinery have their own aircraft!!!!??????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,538 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Think they may even have two. Google isn't finding much though


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭embraer170


    And they have built their own hanger at Kerry airport.


  • Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭fabvinny


    Geuze wrote: »
    Thanks everybody.

    Munster Joinery have their own aircraft!!!!??????

    Yes they do!! The guys who fitted new windows for me a few years ago had been on it the previous week.Flew to birmingham,fitted windows for the day and flew back again in the evening!!


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    L1011 wrote: »
    Think they may even have two. Google isn't finding much though
    They have one that they primarily use (N272NR Embraer Phenom 300) and one that seems to be used whenever the primary one isn't available (2-CLEV ex. N525DT Cessna 525A).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Nothing new really, no new seats being added, just will be a growth on what was there last winter.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    The Dublin route isn't news but more of a press release for the sake of free publicity - afaik Stobart stated they would use an AT76 year round on the route - they've certainly been using it since the contract came into effect last Winter anyway.

    A route like Manchester on Flybe would be fantastic. Places like Liverpool, Leeds and Birmingham aren't far away by train which is handy given the convenience of Kerry. Of course would be handy for inbound traffic also


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭Masala


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Nothing new really, no new seats being added, just will be a growth on what was there last winter.

    JC... if Kerry can fill the extra seats ... it still considered growth!! Growth is growth!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭Masala


    marno21 wrote: »
    The Dublin route isn't news but more of a press release for the sake of free publicity - afaik Stobart stated they would use an AT76 year round on the route - they've certainly been using it since the contract came into effect last Winter anyway.

    A route like Manchester on Flybe would be fantastic. Places like Liverpool, Leeds and Birmingham aren't far away by train which is handy given the convenience of Kerry. Of course would be handy for inbound traffic also

    No airline willing to commit on new startups from UK to regionals with Brexit looming. And kerry has to compete with SNN and ORK on MAN and BHX and EDI. Can't see room for Kerry getting any of these where there is plenty availability left and right!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭Masala


    Good to see Kerry handle the Charles and Camilla departure today!!! Good publicity for them.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Masala wrote: »
    No airline willing to commit on new startups from UK to regionals with Brexit looming. And kerry has to compete with SNN and ORK on MAN and BHX and EDI. Can't see room for Kerry getting any of these where there is plenty availability left and right!!

    FR just started LPL-SNN and BRS-SNN, and FR are the most vocal about not expanding due to Brexit (they also opened a base in SEN with 13 routes, 3 of which are to destinations not served by any FR route at present).
    Masala wrote: »
    Good to see Kerry handle the Charles and Camilla departure today!!! Good publicity for them.

    Was expecting them to be heli'd back to Cork and fly from there until I saw "Sparrowhawk 28 Romeo" lifting off runway 26.

    2 private jets parked up beside the hangar this evening, really good figures this summer. A Challenger 300 also took off around the same time as the Royal flight heading west.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Masala wrote: »
    JC... if Kerry can fill the extra seats ... it still considered growth!! Growth is growth!!!

    I never said otherwise, my point was that it's not really a news story, it was announced several months ago that the aircraft was upgraded to an ATR72-600 and these magical new seats were entirely expected.

    Now, it's not a bad thing for any business to get some PR, but said article means nothing in reality.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭Masala


    marno21 wrote: »
    FR just started LPL-SNN and BRS-SNN, and FR are the most vocal about not expanding due to Brexit (they also opened a base in SEN with 13 routes, 3 of which are to destinations not served by any FR route at present).



    Was expecting them to be heli'd back to Cork and fly from there until I saw "Sparrowhawk 28 Romeo" lifting off runway 26.

    2 private jets parked up beside the hangar this evening, really good figures this summer. A Challenger 300 also took off around the same time as the Royal flight heading west.


    Can't see kerry getting a Ryanair to mid-uk. If it gonna happen.. it gonna be a Stobart or a Flybe type operation of 50-80 seats a couple of times a week. Any expansion from Stobart from UK recently??


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    I never said otherwise, my point was that it's not really a news story, it was announced several months ago that the aircraft was upgraded to an ATR72-600 and these magical new seats were entirely expected.

    Now, it's not a bad thing for any business to get some PR, but said article means nothing in reality.
    It's free publicity that's all. Nothing the aviation interested people didn't know, and maybe they may get a few extra customers for those half interested by confirming to people that the days of flying to Dublin on clapped out ATR 42s are over.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Masala wrote: »
    Can't see kerry getting a Ryanair to mid-uk. If it gonna happen.. it gonna be a Stobart or a Flybe type operation of 50-80 seats a couple of times a week. Any expansion from Stobart from UK recently??
    Oh I know, but the "we're not expanding due to Brexit" talk is just that, talk. If a route is seen as viable they will launch it Brexit or no Brexit.

    Stobart are reportedly cutting Cork-Newcastle and cutting back on Shannon-Edinburgh. If anyone was going to do these routes I would expect Flybe, in the same way they are operating to EDI/MAN/BHX from Knock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    marno21 wrote: »
    Oh I know, but the "we're not expanding due to Brexit" talk is just that, talk. If a route is seen as viable they will launch it Brexit or no Brexit.

    Stobart are reportedly cutting Cork-Newcastle and cutting back on Shannon-Edinburgh. If anyone was going to do these routes I would expect Flybe, in the same way they are operating to EDI/MAN/BHX from Knock.

    Flybe are quite an unusual airline, they seem to be quite erratic in their route selection, so never say never.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    They got rid of 2 atrs and only got 1 replacement. It made more sense to put the new ATR42 on Donegal rather than Kerry, Wasnt upgraded to a 72 due to demand.


  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭durandal01


    http://www.radiokerry.ie/kerry-airport-hopes-construct-new-arrivals-hall/

    About time, the tiny place is really showing its age but I don't think they have much room for maneuver in the terminals current location.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭Masala


    Shn99 wrote: »
    They got rid of 2 atrs and only got 1 replacement. It made more sense to put the new ATR42 on Donegal rather than Kerry, Wasnt upgraded to a 72 due to demand.


    It's an Atr72 that is in the Kerry route.
    Kerry getting into 50++ on some thurs/Friday and Monday flights. Putting an atr72 into Donegal would be a complete waste of seats....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,538 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The Donegal-based AT46 also does the DUB-IOM flights, which I would have thought would be more likely to be pushing capacity on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭embraer170


    Anyone got photos of the new pre-boarding area in departures?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    N492CA Cessna 680 Citation Soverign+ inbound tomorrow morning routing GYY-YQX-KIR. Just climbing out of Gander now


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Kerry Airport AGM yesterday the 18th, management are hoping for further expansion in Germany.

    http://www.radiokerry.ie/kerry-airport-hopes-develop-germany-routes/


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    N800HH inbound again from HPN/White Plains, NY. Seems to be a regular visitor now, someone can't get enough of the place :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    marno21 wrote: »
    N800HH inbound again from HPN/White Plains, NY. Seems to be a regular visitor now, someone can't get enough of the place :)

    Registered to Hogs head aviation, likely related to the redevelopment of a Waterville golf course to Hogs head.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    CAA UK Statistics January-May

    January 2017 | 2018 | %

    London (LTN) - 7,939 | 7,540 | -5
    London (STN) - 4,748 | 5,130 | +8

    February 2017 | 2018 | %

    London (LTN) - 7,832 | 7,740 | -1
    London (STN) - 4,543 | 5,049 | +11

    March 2017 | 2018 | %

    London (LTN) - 8,810 | 8,197 | -7
    London (STN) - 6,088 | 5,361 | -12

    April 2017 | 2018 | %

    London (LTN) - 10,037 | 10,071 | 0
    London (STN) - 8,135 | 7,230 | -11

    May 2017 | 2018 | %

    London (LTN) - 10,154 | 10,031 | -1
    London (STN) - 7,728 | 7,086 | -8


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    N425FX arrived in yesterday after spending the day in Knock, where it arrived into a few hours earlier from Beverly just north of Boston. Nice to see another jet around hasn't been one in for a while..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭embraer170


    Lots of biz jet traffic these days. A Bombardier Global Express just came in from Las Vegas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,005 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    embraer170 wrote: »
    Lots of biz jet traffic these days. A Bombardier Global Express just came in from Las Vegas.

    High end tourism is doing extraordinary well this season. This is one of the main reasons for the executive jets flying into Faranfore.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    embraer170 wrote: »
    Lots of biz jet traffic these days. A Bombardier Global Express just came in from Las Vegas.

    N711WM, was in earlier in the summer, lovely machine

    Was travelling up the hill beside Kerry yesterday and there was 5 private planes parked up down near the hanger, and that's also taking into account that the based N272NR is in Malaga for a while. Lovely sight it must be said


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭adam88


    embraer170 wrote: »
    Lots of biz jet traffic these days. A Bombardier Global Express just came in from Las Vegas.

    How do these flights manage with flight crew. Would thry carry a double crew or stop off someplace to change crews ???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,265 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Depends on the regulations they operate under, a private Global operating under FAR-91 doesn't have any duty time limits. The same plane operated under FAR-135 (Charter) would need additional crew with a proper crew rest facility.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭adam88


    smurfjed wrote: »
    Depends on the regulations they operate under, a private Global operating under FAR-91 doesn't have any duty time limits. The same plane operated under FAR-135 (Charter) would need additional crew with a proper crew rest facility.

    Wow. That’s scary. That’s a long flight from Las Vegas to Kerry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭adam88


    Lots of private jets in kerry today


  • Registered Users Posts: 707 ✭✭✭BZ


    adam88 wrote: »
    Lots of private jets in kerry today

    Big golf event in Waterville


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    That golf course is a nice money earner for Kerry Airport at the minute. N800HH is frequently over from New York with the golf club logo on the tail. EI-PRO and G-ESET doing plenty of shuttling too.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭faoiarvok


    marno21 wrote: »

    Whatever the arguments for cutting subsidies, making the airport out to be Farranfore Airport, serving just the residents there, is plainly stupid. And arguing that if the airport is there, why do they need the other public transport goes against all the logic of a well connected transport system, something we rightly give out about being sorely lacking in many cases in this country.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    Slow news day for the Dublin times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 692 ✭✭✭fuerte1976


    Anyone know when the Ryanair schedule for the Spain/Portugal routes might be announced from Kerry?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,490 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    faoiarvok wrote: »
    Whatever the arguments for cutting subsidies, making the airport out to be Farranfore Airport, serving just the residents there, is plainly stupid.

    +1 it was a very mean-spirited article. As a culchee living in Dublin, I squirm when I hear Danny Healy-Rae and Mattie McGrath doing their beal bocht routines but that article was a really bad piece of 'journalism'.

    The fact, as the whole country (except the IT) knows, is that it is where it is because WW III would have broken out if it was located at Tralee or Killarney. Farranfore is midway between those two towns and it has a railway station so it was the obvious place to locate the airport, even if there was only 20 people in the village or even if there was no village at all nearby. Sneering at Farrnfore and claiming that it doesn't deserve an airport is completely missing the point.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    embraer170 wrote: »
    Lots of biz jet traffic these days. A Bombardier Global Express just came in from Las Vegas.

    N711WM on its way again just after departing McCarran in Vegas

    Weird looking at the airspace over southern Utah and seeing a flight with Kerry as its destination


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