Seems like a good deal on coal....

Cape Clear · 11-10-2015 10:55am

macjohn wrote: »

The margin starts to get smaller with the ovoids.

Around €14.60/14.80 per bag all in for the big load of 25 bags delivered.

Or €18.50/19 (actually €37/38 for two bags) buying local.

still around €4/€4.50 per bag in the difference which is a good bit but for those that
- wouldn't use the 25 bags in a season
- or are tight for storage
- or tight to have the cash to pay for full pallet

Its not as clear cut a saving as with the smoky.

(FWIW I think the ovoids are far far superior to the smoky - just saying for some might be easier buying local)

Valid points there John. Savings in this BA comes down to cash flow or ones ability to share a pallet with family or friends. I fear the door will close on this particular BA in the next while

vicwatson · 11-10-2015 11:14am

Why so?

screamer · 11-10-2015 1:29pm

No idea if these are any good to burn, but tonne pallet of lignite ovoids from company in the republic is 359 or 14.36 a bag delivered.
http://www.mcldirect.com/SF-NUG-BLUE-1T-p/sf_nug_blue_1t.htm

Looking at lignite coal properties I don't think these would be so great TBH!

2forjoy · 11-10-2015 11:22pm

Sometimes if something sounds too good to be true , it usually is .

A bargain alert can sometimes be a good thing and other times not so much.

Lets look at this a different way :
Last year a 1000 litres of kerosene was €900 and was expensive . Today you can buy the same 1000 litres for €540 .
So people are running to the phones to order 1000 litres while the price is so low .

Now if you asked someone to buy €540 of coal , they would say no , because it is too expensive .
Buy 1000 litres of Kerosene now and you will have enough for about 3 months .
Buy €540 of coal now @ €10 bag and you will have 6 months supply burning 2 bags a week.

However , not everyone can afford to buy 1000 litres oil or 50 bags of coal up front , so in most cases people don't mind paying an extra €2 a week and buy 2 bags of coal a week from local supplier .

In my local service station , many many people buy 2 bags coal weekly and 25 litres kerosene weekly .

its a cash-flow solution .

crabbypaddy · 12-10-2015 1:02am

2forjoy wrote: »

Now if you asked someone to buy €540 of coal , they would say no , because it is too expensive .
Buy 1000 litres of Kerosene now and you will have enough for about 3 months .
Buy €540 of coal now @ €10 bag and you will have 6 months supply burning 2 bags a week.

You'd have to burn a lot more coal for the equivalent heat of the kerosene over 3 months.

1000l / 12 weeks = 83 liters of kerosene a week = 813kwh minus boiler inefficiency say 20% = 650kwh delivered to the home.

2 bags of low quality coal = 560kwh
minus open fire inefficiency 75% = 140kwh delivered to the home.
minus open fire with efficient back boiler 60% = 224kwh delivered to the home.
minus stove inefficiency 30% = 392kwh delivered to the home.

Cantona's Collars · 12-10-2015 11:37am

Where I live,the builders installed bog standard open fires with oil as the source for heating rads,for the sake of a few extra quid when building,they could have installed back boilers.Everyone around here lights their fires in the evenings while also burning oil to heat the house.Double the cost straight away,as a result quite a few have installed boiler stoves,myself being one of them.
I got rid of my oil burner and tank altogether,ordered a pallet of coal last year and actually have burned very little of it as I'm in the lucky position to have access to a limitless supply of free firewood.
I use the cheap smoky coal which is dirty compared to ovoids but it burns well with firewood and I actually need very little to heat my rads-too much piled into the stove causes problems with smoke,soot and tar.

BTW-My local coal yard does stove coal (ovoids) for €15 a bag.He seems to get a lot of people who call and buy one or two at a time.Bulk buying to save doesn't enter their minds.

reubenreuben · 12-10-2015 1:11pm

2forjoy wrote: »

Sometimes if something sounds too good to be true , it usually is .

A bargain alert can sometimes be a good thing and other times not so much.

Lets look at this a different way :
Last year a 1000 litres of kerosene was €900 and was expensive . Today you can buy the same 1000 litres for €540 .
So people are running to the phones to order 1000 litres while the price is so low .

Now if you asked someone to buy €540 of coal , they would say no , because it is too expensive .
Buy 1000 litres of Kerosene now and you will have enough for about 3 months .
Buy €540 of coal now @ €10 bag and you will have 6 months supply burning 2 bags a week.

However , not everyone can afford to buy 1000 litres oil or 50 bags of coal up front , so in most cases people don't mind paying an extra €2 a week and buy 2 bags of coal a week from local supplier .

In my local service station , many many people buy 2 bags coal weekly and 25 litres kerosene weekly .

its a cash-flow solution .

In the north, kerosene comes in at the equivalent of 40c a litre, in the south it is 54-56c a litre.
Can the northern suppliers deliver down here like the coal suppliers?

Marhay70 · 12-10-2015 4:42pm

reubenreuben wrote: »

In the north, kerosene comes in at the equivalent of 40c a litre, in the south it is 54-56c a litre.
Can the northern suppliers deliver down here like the coal suppliers?

The northern coal suppliers don't deliver down here, you have it collected. Seems to be a little bit of a grey area but from what I understand, theoretically you're supposed to accompany the shipment.

damemcd · 12-10-2015 6:21pm

Getting a bit nip to be sitting on top of a pallet of coal heading south from Coalisland...

vicwatson · 12-10-2015 9:14pm

Marhay70 wrote: »

The northern coal suppliers don't deliver down here, you have it collected. Seems to be a little bit of a grey area but from what I understand, theoretically you're supposed to accompany the shipment.

This one does

Www.coaldirect.net

et101 · 13-10-2015 1:05pm

Anyone having a problem with Coal Warehouse FB page??

dashcamdanny · 13-10-2015 2:09pm

I only use premium stove coal as its warmer, less ash and keeps the glass clean.

McCarthy's in prosperous are selling 3 x 35kg for 50e.

Is there better than that around kildare?

reubenreuben · 13-10-2015 2:23pm

Has anyone bought the stove coal from coal warehouse??

I want the most heat, least ash and longest burning fuel for the winter.
Is this the stuff to buy?

beertons · 13-10-2015 3:03pm

No complaints with the smokeless ovoids here. Used them last night and burnt half what I did last year. Have an insert myself. Great gear altogether.

dashcamdanny · 13-10-2015 3:33pm

reubenreuben wrote: »

Has anyone bought the stove coal from coal warehouse??

I want the most heat, least ash and longest burning fuel for the winter.
Is this the stuff to buy?

If you have a stove. Its your only man!

I have used everything in my little Oisin , from cut and seasoned wood to all sorts of different coal.

The Board Na Mona premium stove coal is the best by far. Its slow to get going, but the heat builds nicely and efficiently . Half a bucket will heat my stove from 5pm to right through the night till the early hours of the morning. The radiant heat trapped in the chimney breast keeps the house warm for the rest of the next day.

And it keeps my flu, stove and ash pan relatively clean.

horse7 · 13-10-2015 8:47pm

Does anyone know if they still sell coal on the old Dublin road 'julianianstown to Drogheda?

et101 · 14-10-2015 4:03pm

Just placed an order for a pallet of ovoids. Procedure was 1. ring the Coal Warehouse 0488 774 0911 and place order 2. email Liam Connolly Freight brian.woods@liamconnolly.co.uk giving him details of your order including your name, address and telephone number. He will then call you back and get details for payment. All very simple when you know how!! My order for a pallet of ovoids (in the easier to handle 20kg bags) came to €320, delivery to Dublin €46.60, working out at €14.66 per 40kg..... not bad at all and if it's as good as beertons says I'll not only be happy but warm too hip hip!

northknife · 15-10-2015 11:27pm

Has anybody got any ideas on what would be the best coal for a multi-fuel top down boiler?

Not sure if polish coal or ovoids or a mixture would be best.

Any suggestions welcomed.

et101 · 18-10-2015 10:26am

northknife wrote: »

Has anybody got any ideas on what would be the best coal for a multi-fuel top down boiler?

Not sure if polish coal or ovoids or a mixture would be best.

Any suggestions welcomed.

If you message them on their FB page they are pretty quick at replying. I ordered a pallet of smokeless ovoids on Wednesday, it was delivered on Friday and I used it last night, and would defo recommend it. Great heat and this morning the fireplace is still quite warm. Hope this helps

ActingDanClark · 18-10-2015 6:14pm

Has anyone any experience of the smokeless coal in aldi:- €5.49 for 10kg?

brian_gall85 · 18-10-2015 8:12pm

Not a clue but what I can tell you is that it's very expensive for 10kg.

Tony H · 20-10-2015 10:19am

damian139 wrote:

Has anyone any experience of the smokeless coal in aldi:- â‚¬5.49 for 10kg?

Got a bag yesterday and it burns nicely but nothing special .

2forjoy · 20-10-2015 5:50pm

damian139 wrote: »

Has anyone any experience of the smokeless coal in aldi:- €5.49 for 10kg?

is it a 6 sided lump ?

bmm · 20-10-2015 6:22pm

crabbypaddy wrote: »

2 bags of low quality coal = 560kwh
minus open fire inefficiency 75% = 140kwh delivered to the home.
minus open fire with efficient back boiler 60% = 224kwh delivered to the home.
minus stove inefficiency 30% = 392kwh delivered to the home.

I'm confused !

vienne86 · 21-10-2015 8:23am

damian139 wrote: »

Has anyone any experience of the smokeless coal in aldi:- €5.49 for 10kg?

I've used it in the past and found it fine. Yes, these small bags are expensive, but they suit me as they are easy to handle and store.

Cape Clear · 21-10-2015 8:52am

brian_gall85 wrote: »

Not a clue but what I can tell you is that it's very expensive for 10kg.

Spotted 20kg bags for €12 on the forecourt yesterday. Aldi price isn't all that bad when you consider the size of bag. The 40kg bag is always going to be much cheaper per kg. Don't think you will get much cheaper than €5.49 for 10 kg tbh

Cocoon · 21-10-2015 11:52am

Cape Clear wrote: »

Spotted 20kg bags for €12 on the forecourt yesterday. Aldi price isn't all that bad when you consider the size of bag. The 40kg bag is always going to be much cheaper per kg. Don't think you will get much cheaper than €5.49 for 10 kg tbh

The Emo station in mount brown near St James hospital does 20kg bags of smokeless for €7.99, I used it last year and it was fine mixed with briquettes in the stove. It does burn very hot because it contains petcoke, but mixed with briquettes there is enough ash to protect the grate. This year I bought a pallet of ovoids and must say they are great for use in a stove.

brian_gall85 · 22-10-2015 7:35am

Exactly, you should be paying no more than €8/9 for a 20kg bag of smokeless.

Crimsonforce · 24-10-2015 1:41am

Here's another place for different mixture of smokeless coal

Www.thedandys.ie

389 Euros for 1 tonne delivered to Dublin

Kristopherus · 24-10-2015 1:53am

Crimsonforce wrote: »

Here's another place for different mixture of smokeless coal

Www.thedandys.ie

389 Euros for 1 tonne delivered to Dublin

On a par with most suppliers down here. Nothing really special. And its coming from Bandit Country:eek:

Crimsonforce · 24-10-2015 1:59am

Kristopherus wrote: »

On a par with most suppliers down here. Nothing really special. And its coming from Bandit Country:eek:

Really where? I'd prefer to get it local

deandean · 24-10-2015 5:42pm

"We provide, free of charge, oil bowsers (1000 Ltr capacity) to our customers to transport thier oil home."
OMG.
Just, OMG.
Well I guess at least you would be accompanying your fuel over the border.

reubenreuben · 02-11-2015 3:39pm

Just had delivered a 1 ton selection of polish coal, stove coal and smokeless ovoids. I must have picked the hottest day in november on record to have them delivered. Wrecked after moving 45 bags into storage. Will report back when using them in stove how they fare.

Aenaes · 02-11-2015 3:44pm

22.2222222222KG bags?

xabi · 02-11-2015 3:55pm

Aenaes wrote: »

22.2222222222KG bags?

He didn't say they were all the same size bags!

reubenreuben · 02-11-2015 4:02pm

Aenaes wrote: »

22.2222222222KG bags?

coal-20kg
stove coal 25kg
ovoids 25kg

must easier to shift about

listermint · 02-11-2015 4:25pm

et101 wrote: »

Just placed an order for a pallet of ovoids. Procedure was 1. ring the Coal Warehouse 0488 774 0911 and place order 2. email Liam Connolly Freight brian.woods@liamconnolly.co.uk giving him details of your order including your name, address and telephone number. He will then call you back and get details for payment. All very simple when you know how!! My order for a pallet of ovoids (in the easier to handle 20kg bags) came to €320, delivery to Dublin €46.60, working out at €14.66 per 40kg..... not bad at all and if it's as good as beertons says I'll not only be happy but warm too hip hip!

Any idea on the sulphur content of these Ovoids ?

High Sulphur can cause havoc with Stove Glass and the coatings inside and flue.

Fries-With-That · 02-11-2015 6:37pm

I got 1 ton of coal doubles from a crowd in the north , and they arranged delivery.

Coal 25 x 40kg bags cost €250, paid over phone with C.C
Paid the delivery driver €50 when he delivered to North Tipperary.

Coal arrived on a pallet wrapped in plastic so coal is bone dry and the delivery driver used a pallet truck to wheel it into my yard, I didn't have to lift one bag.

If anyone wants details for this crowd just ask.

reubenreuben · 04-11-2015 2:05pm

listermint wrote: »

Any idea on the sulphur content of these Ovoids ?

High Sulphur can cause havoc with Stove Glass and the coatings inside and flue.

Not sure, but the ones I ordered from coal warehouse look exactly the same as the ones I bought in the south.

marvsins · 04-11-2015 2:57pm

reubenreuben wrote: »

Not sure, but the ones I ordered from coal warehouse look exactly the same as the ones I bought in the south.

Ya I think they are similar to the BnaM Cosyglo gems. I bought 8/17 bags ovoid/ polish coal and now wish I'd bought more if the ovoids. They are great in my stove. They last a long time and there is great heat from them.

deandean · 05-11-2015 3:28pm

I might try a few bags of slack next time to keep the stove going overnight.
Is anyone here using slack in this way? I have only read about it, never used it so far.

pm. · 05-11-2015 5:42pm

deandean wrote: »

I might try a few bags of slack next time to keep the stove going overnight.
Is anyone here using slack in this way? I have only read about it, never used it so far.

I got it last year and found it smothered the fire... Maybe I was using it wrong but didnt like it at all. I found all I was left with was a heap of burnt slack the next morning it didnt burn, i had the airflow opened that bit more aswel.

Lads what do ye think of the ovids for a back boiler stove ?? I have the premium polish and its smoking the whole estate

but gives out great heat. I believe Mullingar is now a smokeless zone and I getting a bit worried. Also if anyone has ordered 25 bags what was the total cost including delivery ?

monkeynuz · 05-11-2015 6:00pm

pm. wrote: »

I got it last year and found it smothered the fire... Maybe I was using it wrong but didnt like it at all. I found all I was left with was a heap of burnt slack the next morning it didnt burn, i had the airflow opened that bit more aswel.

Lads what do ye think of the ovids for a back boiler stove ?? I have the premium polish and its smoking the whole estate but gives out great heat. I believe Mullingar is now a smokeless zone and I getting a bit worried. Also if anyone has ordered 25 bags what was the total cost including delivery ?

Shouldn't be using regular coal in a stove anyway, very bad idea.

Only use smokeless/ovoids.

brian_gall85 · 05-11-2015 6:38pm

Ovoids are the way to go for a stove. A bucket or two of them will keep your stove going all day and put out great heat. Smokey coal in a stove is a false economy and not good for the long-term health of your stove.

et101 · 05-11-2015 7:30pm

listermint wrote: »

Any idea on the sulphur content of these Ovoids ?

High Sulphur can cause havoc with Stove Glass and the coatings inside and flue.

No idea about the sulphur content but have burnt them a few nights now and although they do leave a slight film on the glass of my fire door, it is not nearly as bad as some of the coals I used last winter. All in all I'd have to say I'm pleased with my purchase

Bebo stunnah · 05-11-2015 7:59pm

Would anybody here tell me what the Clearflame and Masterflame are? I bought a pallet of Ovoids and stove coal from them last year and was looking at splitting a pallet with some family this time who have open fireplaces. I'm going back for some more ovoids as I found them great and wont be going back for more stove coal as I found it filthy to burn. Has anyone bought anthracite off them? I asked about it last time and they said they had but they sent it back because people were reporting that it was poor.

2forjoy · 08-11-2015 1:42am

Bebo stunnah wrote: »

Would anybody here tell me what the Clearflame and Masterflame are? I bought a pallet of Ovoids and stove coal from them last year and was looking at splitting a pallet with some family this time who have open fireplaces.

none is going to be able to tell you what the above are , because different suppliers use the same name , so wats is in one bag may not be in another bag of same name .

example is this
kingcoal website says that clearflame is a mix of petcoke and ovids and mfsfuels website says that clearflame is petcoke made from oil residues .
dublinfuelcentre says that clearflame is a blend of large petcoke and hi-lite.

so who do you believe ?

crabbypaddy · 08-11-2015 10:29am

Bebo stunnah wrote: »

Would anybody here tell me what the Clearflame and Masterflame are? I bought a pallet of Ovoids and stove coal from them last year and was looking at splitting a pallet with some family this time who have open fireplaces. I'm going back for some more ovoids as I found them great and wont be going back for more stove coal as I found it filthy to burn. Has anyone bought anthracite off them? I asked about it last time and they said they had but they sent it back because people were reporting that it was poor.

No advantage to anthracite over ovids carbon content is about the same but anthracite is impossible to light on its own and difficult to burn completely.

odckdo · 08-11-2015 12:36pm

Just wondering if anyone is using the ovoids in an open fire and how do you find them?

I'm using their Black Diamond polish. It burns well with good heat but I think I might have to get the chimney swept an extra time (not much rain lately and alot of soot on my silver car).

Cantona's Collars · 08-11-2015 2:50pm

odckdo wrote: »

Just wondering if anyone is using the ovoids in an open fire and how do you find them?

I'm using their Black Diamond polish. It burns well with good heat but I think I might have to get the chimney swept an extra time (not much rain lately and alot of soot on my silver car).

Mix the 2 together for better burning of the standard Polish coal.

Seems like a good deal on coal....

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