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The Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein controversy.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    I only found about this story myself yesterday, at the moment it would appear most media are not running with it or reporting it but I think that will all change pretty soon. Especially if the FBI reopen the case in the US which they are considering doing at the moment, according to Guardian sources if that happens Andrew may be on his way to America to answer a few questions. They have a picture of him in the Guardian with Virginia Roberts one of the girls at the centre of the case. - link


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭Oracle


    Thanks for the link. This story runs on and on ... seems like Prince Andrew asked Epstein to pay off some of his ex-wife's Sarah Ferguson's debt, which he did to the tune of £15,000.

    Prince Andrew has been defended by the UK Foreign Secretary, William Hague. Also the chairman of the UK's Foreign Affairs Select Committee, Richard Ottoway, thinks Prince Andrew's doing "a jolly good job."http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12659571


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    I only heard about this yesterday too. But it does kind of sound like people are trying to pin something on Prince Andrew, as opposed to trying to uncover a child sex ring or anything like that. It kind of comes across as a bit fishy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    The story came out of nowhere really he has known that monster Epstein for many years but it is coming out now for whatever reason. He hasnt been accused of anything as of yet other than being a friend of a convicted child rapist, Im sure the story is going to run and run though with more twists and turns on the way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 264 ✭✭Fantomas9mm


    WakeUp wrote: »
    The story came out of nowhere really he has known that monster Epstein for many years but it is coming out now for whatever reason. He hasnt been accused of anything as of yet other than being a friend of a convicted child rapist, Im sure the story is going to run and run though with more twists and turns on the way.

    Wow , this thread is newly 10 years old.

    Shows with how long this was known about.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Wow , this thread is newly 10 years old.

    Shows with how long this was known about.

    Slimy network Epstein belonged to still out there. Netflix did an ok job showing there still some good cops around. The detective/chief of the Palm beach police deserves a medal for trying to protect the school girls some as young as 13. The FBI and others let this guy off the hook. Netflix did not discuss the allegations Epstein had intelligence ties and was likely blackmailing rich and famous people for decades.


  • Registered Users Posts: 264 ✭✭Fantomas9mm


    Slimy network Epstein belonged to still out there. Netflix did an ok job showing there still some good cops around. The detective/chief of the Palm beach police deserves a medal for trying to protect the school girls some as young as 13. The FBI and others let this guy off the hook. Netflix did not discuss the allegations Epstein had intelligence ties and was likely blackmailing rich and famous people for decades.


    Was there an Israel connection ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    And still the dirtbird has no regrets (based on his last interview on the BBC), pure shameless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Was there an Israel connection ?

    Les Wexner supposedly Epstein boss is claimed to be Mossad mole inside the United States for decades. In the Netflix documentry they claim Epstein was blackmailing him and they had a sexual relationship. I not sure if this is true or just a way to throw off journalists from looking into this intelligence connection further? Wexter was portrayed as someone who got lead astray by the criminal mastermind Epstein!

    Ghislaine Maxwell father was involved in Mossad. This does not mean here she was a mole for Israeli intelligence though.

    The rumor started about Epstein came from journalists, that Alexander Acosta Former United States Secretary of Labor had told people in private the reason Epstein got off lightly in 2007, he was involved in Intelligence. The agency was not named, but some made the leap it was Mossad. This is not confirmed so i can't say more to truth of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 264 ✭✭Fantomas9mm


    Les Wexner supposedly Epstein boss is claimed to be Mossad mole inside the United States for decades. In the Netflix documentry they claim Epstein was blackmailing him and they had a sexual relationship. I not sure if this is true or just a way to throw off journalists from looking into this intelligence connection further? Wexter was portrayed as someone who got lead astray by the criminal mastermind Epstein!

    Ghislaine Maxwell father was involved in Mossad. This does not mean here she was a mole for Israeli intelligence though.

    The rumor started about Epstein came from journalists, that Alexander Acosta Former United States Secretary of Labor had told people in private the reason Epstein got off lightly in 2007, he was involved in Intelligence. The agency was not named, but some made the leap it was Mossad. This is not confirmed so i can't say more to truth of it.

    A long read but interesting

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus



    From what I have seen in the news, on Panorama, on Netflix documentaries etc. it seems she was more than knee deep in Epstein's carry on, so it is hard to see how she doesn't end up serving some serious time over this. Obviously throwing Andy under the bus potentially gives her an out, so as others have mentioned if I was Andrew, I would be shítting myself!

    Hopefully justice is done, because both Andrew and Ghislain seem to have committed some heinous crimes, and regardless of their status, they should pay the penalty for what they have done!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    They should do a TV trial of it, much like the OJ Simpson, or Clinton's missing email server.

    Meanwhile, order in the popcorn.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Do you think Prince Andrew just regained his ability to sweat. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Judge Orders Jeffrey Epstein Accuser To Destroy Files



    Senior US District Judge Loretta Preska said on Wednesday that Giuffre's attorneys would need to provide proof that the documents had been destroyed, adding that "Counsel shall submit an affidavit detailing the steps taken to do so," according to Newsweek.


    Judge Orders Jeffrey Epstein Accuser To Destroy Files


    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/judge-orders-jeffrey-epstein-accuser-destroy-files


  • Registered Users Posts: 264 ✭✭Fantomas9mm


    enno99 wrote: »
    Judge Orders Jeffrey Epstein Accuser To Destroy Files



    Senior US District Judge Loretta Preska said on Wednesday that Giuffre's attorneys would need to provide proof that the documents had been destroyed, adding that "Counsel shall submit an affidavit detailing the steps taken to do so," according to Newsweek.


    Judge Orders Jeffrey Epstein Accuser To Destroy Files


    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/judge-orders-jeffrey-epstein-accuser-destroy-files


    There are so many “that’s very odd” moments with this case !

    Have any Irish people (apart from Eddie Irvine) been linked with Epstein or Maxwell ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2




    I wonder is Audrey Struss the actual reason this happened so fast? Nothing happened for months and months, and soon as Berman replaced from office the arrest came. This lady examined and investigated the Iran-contra affair and later sided against the US government. Those in power want her out soon, in that case she might be problematic!

    This is the same district area today examining the 9/11/ Ae911 info handed to the court in New York. We can only hope she reviews the evidence and sees it and let the jury and investigators do their job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    lots of interesting stuff going on in

    Manhattan U.S. Attorney Berman refuses to leave after Trump says SEC chief Jay Clayton will replace him

    There had been no previous indication that Berman was leaving the prestigious post of the SDNY U.S. attorney, voluntarily or otherwise.

    Berman last July lodged child sex trafficking charges against the wealthy investor Jeffrey Epstein, a former friend of Trump. Epstein killed himself in a Manhattan federal jail less than two months after his arrest.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/19/justice-department-replaces-federal-prosecutor-berman-with-sec-clayton.html




    In September 2016, the FBI’s New York Field Office (NYO) and the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York (SDNY) began investigating former Congressman Anthony Weiner for his online relationship with a minor. A federal search warrant was obtained on September 26, 2016, for Weiner’s iPhone, iPad, and laptop computer. The FBI obtained these devices the same day. The search warrant authorized the government to search for evidence relating to the following crimes: transmitting obscene material to a minor, sexual exploitation of children, and activities related to child pornography.

    https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/judicial-watch-fbi-documents-detail-weiner-laptop-clinton-email-find-just-before-the-2016-election/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Follow the money

    Techno Fog
    @Techno_Fog
    Ghislaine Maxwell - new info from the US Detention Memo:

    1) The grand jury returned the indictment on 6/29/20

    2) Maxwell has 15+ bank accounts. Some hold more than $20 million.

    3) Transfers of millions $$ to/from Epstein

    4) Cash purchase of 156 acre NH Property in 2019


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    I wonder is Audrey Struss the actual reason this happened so fast? Nothing happened for months and months, and soon as Berman replaced from office the arrest came. This lady examined and investigated the Iran-contra affair and later sided against the US government. Those in power want her out soon, in that case she might be problematic!

    This is the same district area today examining the 9/11/ Ae911 info handed to the court in New York. We can only hope she reviews the evidence and sees it and let the jury and investigators do their job.


    Interesting when you look at Barrs involvement in that episode
    The swamp is deep and intertwined
    Just have to hope that crimes against children is where some of them draw the line


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  • Registered Users Posts: 115 ✭✭NuttyMcNutty


    Just heard Maxwell is going to commit suicide in prison.


  • Registered Users Posts: 264 ✭✭Fantomas9mm


    Can it be said that it’s a fair assessment at this point that Jeffrey Epstein was using females to have sexual relations with important and influential people for the purposes of blackmail ?


    How accurate is that statement ?
    75% correct ?
    40% correct ?
    Etc.. Etc....


  • Registered Users Posts: 264 ✭✭Fantomas9mm


    enno99 wrote: »
    Follow the money

    Techno Fog
    @Techno_Fog
    Ghislaine Maxwell - new info from the US Detention Memo:

    1) The grand jury returned the indictment on 6/29/20

    2) Maxwell has 15+ bank accounts. Some hold more than $20 million.

    3) Transfers of millions $$ to/from Epstein

    4) Cash purchase of 156 acre NH Property in 2019

    I know this is a conspiracy theory forum
    and all but........

    How likely do you think that Israel/Mossad are involved somewhere in this ?

    Not meaning to be anti Semitic or anything obviously, but considering who Ghislaine Maxwell’s father is , how can they not be involved in some way ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,331 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Qanon are pretty sure the Clintons are done for with the whole Epstein saga...what say ye?

    Ec-BHl-Va-XYAIHBJh.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    enno99 wrote: »
    Interesting when you look at Barrs involvement in that episode
    The swamp is deep and intertwined
    Just have to hope that crimes against children is where some of them draw the line

    My view here is Barr and Trump wanted rid of Berman when he was firmly exploring, taking action against Trump and his colleagues in The White House during an election year and is supported by the Democratic party. I don’t think the plan was to be rid of him over the Epstein case?

    Struss seems the likely reason this arrest happened so fast. Her bio indicates she is a campaigner who hates crime, deceit, corruption, and would not stone wall a conviction here for Epstein accomplices.

    Trump draining the swamp language you see online for me is laughable when he refused to release all JFK files in its entirely unredacted and has appointed and handed government appointments to warhawks and conversative neocons. Pompeo still there and that says a lot about Trump mindset.

    Trump not entirely wrong in everything he says, the mainstream news are bias and will not always report the facts. I think the Russian/ Trump collusion event shows how media can influence people to think in a certain way. They had people believing Trump was a Kremlin spy and Putin placed Trump in the White house and well educated people believed it still to this day:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    My view here is Barr and Trump wanted rid of Berman when he was firmly exploring, taking action against Trump and his colleagues in The White House during an election year and is supported by the Democratic party. I don’t think the plan was to be rid of him over the Epstein case?

    Struss seems the likely reason this arrest happened so fast. Her bio indicates she is a campaigner who hates crime, deceit, corruption, and would not stone wall a conviction here for Epstein accomplices.

    Trump draining the swamp language you see online for me is laughable when he refused to release all JFK files in its entirely unredacted and has appointed and handed government appointments to warhawks and conversative neocons. Pompeo still there and that says a lot about Trump mindset.

    Trump not entirely wrong in everything he says, the mainstream news are bias and will not always report the facts. I think the Russian/ Trump collusion event shows how media can influence people to think in a certain way. They had people believing Trump was a Kremlin spy and Putin placed Trump in the White house and well educated people believed it still to this day:rolleyes:

    If she is a tenacious as you say they would remove her also. No guarantee she wont continue with Berman,s objective

    Im more inclined to think he has been given bad advice from the start Sessions,Rosenstein and others around him

    Setting up General fylnn was necessary to leave him exposed to bad advice

    Hes fighting on 3 fronts Dems and Rinos and corrupt media

    Re JFK what would accomplish now except expose them and make people want to tear down the government that he says hes trying to reform

    I dont know lol its complex

    Yes a lot of people should understand now the control media has over them inc the likes of twitter, facebook etc


  • Registered Users Posts: 415 ✭✭SlowMotion321


    Just heard Maxwell is going to commit suicide in prison.

    Going to be suicided! Good enough for the bitch, just as long as she names names before they get to her!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    There was a TV documentary on earlier this week (Quest & dplay) called "Who Killed Jeffrey Epstein?".
    Filled with some shocking stuff about Epstein, and the failure of authorities to nail the sucker.

    One crazy claim made early in the show was that he was said to have 'cursed' a pregnant reporter who attempted to break the story.

    This could well tie-in with his sickness and satanic artworks and scupltures. whiles these folks are evil by default (along with the Maxwells),
    there are already suggestions of dark arts/voodoo in practice in DC (Hilary's friend: Podesta and his spirit cooking stuff with Satanist: Marina Abramovic).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Qanon are pretty sure the Clintons are done for with the whole Epstein saga...what say ye?

    Ec-BHl-Va-XYAIHBJh.jpg

    You got a hint in the end of this movie who Bill Clinton, real employer, is!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 264 ✭✭Fantomas9mm




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2



    Wild conspiracy and still trying to make sense of it personally. The belief is Wayfair was pricing items at extreme prices that only the people involved in human trafficking could purchase. The listed purchases/ items had missing kids names? Be an enormous story if true, but could be just a coincidence the names of items sold had the missing kids names? It hard to believe Wayfair would be that bold to advertise the sale of human beings on the internet?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Qanon are pretty sure the Clintons are done for with the whole Epstein saga...what say ye?

    Ec-BHl-Va-XYAIHBJh.jpg

    Because Q has predicted so much correctly for so long.

    Would love to see the Clintons done for but I won't hold my breath. He has had three years to "lock her up".... yet nothing has happened


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,050 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Because Q has predicted so much correctly for so long.

    Would love to see the Clintons done for but I won't hold my breath. He has had three years to "lock her up".... yet nothing has happened

    They wrapped up yet another fishing expedition against her at the start of the year, empty handed.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/justice-dept-winds-down-clinton-related-inquiry-once-championed-by-trump-it-found-nothing-of-consequence/2020/01/09/ca83932e-32f9-11ea-a053-dc6d944ba776_story.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Qanon are pretty sure the Clintons are done for with the whole Epstein saga...what say ye?

    Ec-BHl-Va-XYAIHBJh.jpg

    Well they’re always right. Or maybe it will be this tine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Overheal wrote: »

    Seems he wasnt doing his job

    Joe diGenova: John Huber Investigation of Clinton Foundation is a Farce – Never Even Started

    Former US Attorney Joe diGenova says that the Huber investigation into the Clinton Foundation is a farce. Huber hasn’t even interviewed the top witness in the case whom diGenova represents!

    Mark Meadows (R-NC), Jim Jordan (R-OH) and Doug Collins (R-GA) sent a letter to special prosecutor John Huber on January 8th demanding answers by a January 21st deadline.

    “Your investigation has been ongoing for over nine months. During the course of our extensive investigation we have interviewed more than a dozen current and former DOJ and FBI personnel, and were surprised to hear none of these potentially informative witnesses testified to speaking with you,” the GOP lawmakers wrote.

    Huber was supposed to be investigating leaks and a bunch of other things. He stopped his investigation because of Horowitz so he’s a useless appendage who’s done nothing. In fact, he’s supposed to be investigating Uranium One and yet he never contacted our law firm and we represent the key informant in the case, Doug Campbell. So go figure!

    The Clinton Foundation whistleblowers, Mr. Moynihan and Mr. Doyle told the committee they had to send their evidence to the Huber investigation THREE TIMES because they kept losing it.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/05/joe-di-genova-john-huber-investigation-of-clinton-foundation-is-a-farce-never-even-started/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Some relevant news out of the United States.

    Ester Salas was assigned the Epstein/ Deutsche bank court case in recent days.

    Last night a hitman dressed in a FedEx uniform arrived at her home and shot the Judge son and killed him. The hitman also shot at the husband who answered the front door and injured him badly, but he's alive at this moment. Ester Salas was in the basement of her home at the time and did not get shot.

    There theories spreading online now, it was Russian/ Eastern European mafia hit, or to do with her involvement in the Deutsche bank civil court case? Right now the killer here still not caught by the FBI.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/19/us/federal-judge-esther-salas-shooting-investigation/index.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 264 ✭✭Fantomas9mm


    Some relevant news out of the United States.

    Ester Salas was assigned the Epstein/ Deutsche bank court case in recent days.

    Last night a hitman dressed in a FedEx uniform arrived at her home and shot the Judge son and killed him. The hitman also shot at the husband who answered the front door and injured him badly, but he's alive at this moment. Ester Salas was in the basement of her home at the time and did not get shot.

    There theories spreading online now, it was Russian/ Eastern European mafia hit, or to do with her involvement in the Deutsche bank civil court case? Right now the killer here still not caught by the FBI.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/19/us/federal-judge-esther-salas-shooting-investigation/index.html

    Wow,


    Obviously can’t say if it’s directly connected to Epstein but **** me if it is.

    Things keep getting murkier and murkier .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,050 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I saw the news break last night and was waiting to hear what cases she was assigned to. Have to hope the FBI catches the guy, there's a lot to answer for. The question I have lingering now is will she be reassigned her cases in which case is the damage done or would some other judges life be at risk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,331 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Killing her son is a serious bit of damage but the gunman committed suicide, he seems a bit Young to be a hit man though, it's hardly random is it?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Seems a sloppy way of doing things to protect powerful people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,331 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Turns out the shooter was an attorney, could be work related maybe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Newsweek journalist has dug around and has mentioned a few things about this guy on his twitter page. The main official media not saying
    anything about this right now .

    Roy Den Hollander—the now-dead "primary suspect" in the attempted assassination of Judge Salas—had cancer. Below was his GoFundMe, tied to his LinkedIn.]
    PS2/ For instance, a dying man might be angry if he thought a judge had ruled in favor of insurance companies. Or, a dying man who desperately needs money might feel he has nothing to lose and take a paid contract to kill someone out of desperation. Or many other possibilities.
    PS3/ In 2015, Hollander was reviewing docs in a case involving Prudential Insurance Company. Major media says it was in that year that he had a case before Judge Salas. So one of many lines of investigation for the FBI will be whether that 2015 case involved Salas and Prudential.
    Other lines of inquiry may include, for instance, Hollander working in 1999 and 2000 to improve a company's "delivery of intelligence and security in the former Soviet Union"—work involving "preparing intelligence reports" and dealing with "Russian employees in the firm."
    The FBI may consider that in 1999 Roy Den Hollander "counseled companies, individuals and nonprofit organizations in Russia on legal and business issues, including international financing and marketing," or that in the 1980s he worked a major Atlantic City casino fraud case.
    Essentially, Hollander's background is a "target-rich" environment for a criminal investigator—though of course they'll first scour his home for any obvious signs of his motive (including a confession, a suicide note, personal effects, financial records, and so on). Routine.
    NOTE2/ The NEW YORK DAILY NEWS reports that "Salas was presiding over an ongoing suit filed by Hollander over the U.S. military’s men-only draft." This *corrects* major-media reporting saying that the last contact between the two was 2015. Apparently Hollander wrote a manifesto.

    Other tweets you can read on his page. Based on the evidence so far, it is plausible he's the guy who shot the Judge son and wounded the husband. Since his dead we'll never know the true motive here?

    Or is he a patsy? That's the theory currently on conspiracy websites,


    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1285332935772721158


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭guitarhappy


    Time to call in Joe Friday? Or Gemma O'doherty and John Waters?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Time to call in Joe Friday? Or Gemma O'doherty and John Waters?

    Information just got weirder.
    Roy Den Hollander may have been hunting foes after cancer diagnosis: report
    The men’s rights lawyer suspected of gunning down the son of a federal judge may have been hunting down enemies after being diagnosed with cancer — and may be linked to the July 11 California slaying of another attorney.

    https://nypost.com/2020/07/20/roy-den-hollander-was-hunting-foes-after-cancer-diagnosis-report/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp

    I read this news last week and forgot about it. Another attorney got murdered 6 days ago. Supposedly a delivery person got spotted there as well at the crime scene.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8522737/Killing-mens-rights-attorney-Marc-Angelucci-related-work-friends-say.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Wow,


    Obviously can’t say if it’s directly connected to Epstein but **** me if it is.

    Things keep getting murkier and murkier .

    The Rabbit hole just got deeper again! A recent article by Whitney Webb, who has tirelessly investigated the deep state involvement with Epstein. It is a long piece and I just took some quotes/paragraphs from it.

    Can read the full piece here.
    http://unlimitedhangout.com/2020/07/reports/alleged-salas-family-assailant-previously-worked-for-us-israeli-intelligence-linked-firm/


    The case Salas is set to oversee is a class action lawsuit brought by Deutsche Bank investors who allege that Deutsche Bank “failed to properly monitor customers that the Bank itself deemed to be high risk, including, among others, the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.” The case came after the New York state Department of Financial Services had settled with Deutsche Bank over the bank’s failure to cut ties with Epstein-linked accounts, resulting in Deutsche Bank paying a $150 million fine. Deutsche Bank, unlike other financial institutions, failed to close all of its accounts linked to Epstein until less than a month prior to his arrest last year, even though the bank had identified him as “high risk” yearsbefore
    With law enforcement sources now claiming that Esther Salas was not the intended target of the attack and some media reports now suggesting that Den Hollander’s motive was related to his dislike of feminism, it appears there are efforts underway to distance Sunday’s tragic shooting from Salas’ recent assignment to the Epstein case, which occurred just four days before the tragic shooting.
    The most likely reason for any such “damage control” effort lies in the fact that both U.S. law enforcement investigations and mainstream media reports have consistently downplayed the connections of Jeffrey Epstein’s sexual trafficking and financial crimes to intelligence agencies in the U.S. and Israel. Similarly, Roy Den Hollander previously worked for a New York firm has been described as a “private CIA” with ties to those countries’ intelligence agencies and, also, ties to Deutsche Bank.
    According to his website, Den Hollander once worked for Kroll Associates Moscow Office, where he “managed and upgraded Kroll’s delivery of intelligence and security in the former Soviet Union” from 1999 to 2000. A few years prior, Kroll had won a considerable bid from the Russian government to locate money allegedly “spirited out of the country by the directors of state enterprises when they realized that privatization was inevitable.” The Kroll executives in charge of the Russian portfolio prior to Den Hollander were E. Norbett Garrett, a former CIA station chief in Cairo and Kuwait, and Joseph Rosetti, former chief of security for IBM. During that period and prior to his hiring at Kroll, Den Hollender worked as a lawyer in Russia regarding “legal and business issues, including international financing and marketing” and married a Russian woman he met during his time there that he subsequently claimed was part of the “Russian mafia.”
    Founded by Jules Kroll in 1972, Kroll Associates would later become known as the “CIA of Wall Street” and “Wall Street’s Private Eye” and was alleged to be an actual front for the CIA by French intelligence agencies, according to the Washington Post. Part of the reason for this nickname, which was once a boasting point for top Kroll executives, owes to the fact that the firm frequently hired former CIA and FBI officers, as well as former members of MI6 and Mossad. K2 Intelligence, the successor to Kroll Associates founded by Jules Kroll and his son Jeremy in 2009, has similar hiring practices, counting former FBI and NSA officials among its ranks alongside former high-ranking members of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and Shin Bet, Israel’s domestic intelligence agency. Kroll also boasted ties to the Bush family, with Jonathan Bush (George Bush Sr.’s brother) serving on its corporate advisory board, and Kroll was also employed by Bill Clinton’s first presidential campaign.

    Information in this article about Kroll Associates shady involvement with the 9/11 attacks and the Deutsche bank involvement in that event and money laundering for other powerful people.

    She Sums it all up in the end.
    It arguably remains one of the key components of the Epstein scandal, yet the most poorly understood and most under-investigated. If anything, the tragic events at the Salas family home on Sunday, and what appears to be a rapid yet shoddy cover-up of the shooter’s ties to Kroll Associates and actual motives, reveal that Epstein’s financial ties are more frightening to certain powerful individuals and institutions than his trove of sexual blackmail.


  • Registered Users Posts: 264 ✭✭Fantomas9mm


    Where does the case against Ghislaine Maxwell stand as of right now ?

    Has she been formally charged and all that ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,050 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Where does the case against Ghislaine Maxwell stand as of right now ?

    Has she been formally charged and all that ?

    Oh yes she's in pre-trial custody.


  • Registered Users Posts: 264 ✭✭Fantomas9mm


    I see Bill Clinton is trending .


  • Registered Users Posts: 264 ✭✭Fantomas9mm


    There is a Twitter account that is supposedly ran by one of Trump’s lawyers , Lin Wood. Wood says he has proof of that people in power have been blackmailed by various government agencies....

    Says Epstein was at the same craic.




    https://twitter.com/llinwood/status/1345993980811616256?s=21


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