(How about a thread on the) Best Starter Kits?

the_syco · 14-03-2014 8:05pm #1

Hey all,

Thought I'd start a thread where people would list what starter kits they'd recommend, how much they are, and where to get them?

I thought this thread would be good, as I'm always asked what kits people should get, and as I now buy parts from random places, don't know. It also may be a good reference for other people as well.

The kits should have a charger, at least one battery (preferably two), a clearo/carto/tank/etc, some sample juice, and be under €100

Preferably available within Ireland, but not necessarily from a bricks and mortar shop. This is to ensure a fast (under a week) delivery time, as I find those looking to switch can be fickle, and not able to wait.

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I used to recommend the Kanger Twist Starter Kit for €56 as it had 3 sample juices, 2 batteries, etc, but I've had some bad feedback (lots of gurgling) from one of the more recent convertees, I'm not so inclined to recommend it.

Fratton Fred · 14-03-2014 8:19pm

I've been using the evod twist quite a bit lately. I think this is a superb starter kit.

http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/evodtwistkit.htm

Neil_Sedaka · 14-03-2014 9:21pm

For a starter kit, I would recommend something quite simple but easily upgraded.
I don't think beginners need variable voltage to start with TBH.

A 650, 900 (My choice) or 1100mah battery and a simple clearomizer like the Evod or H2 (again my favourite) would suffice for any new vaper.

I would also advise them to steer well clear of anything that tries to resemble a real cigarette.

18mg strength liquid in a few small samples to get a taste for what you like.

Actually the whole thing is here for about €16!

EGriff · 14-03-2014 9:23pm

I thought we were all in agreement that the Aspire was the best clearo now:

http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/aspirespin.htm

Neil_Sedaka · 14-03-2014 9:31pm

No not me, Dual coil and VV for beginners?? I think they would find it too much of a learning curve.

EGriff · 14-03-2014 9:40pm

It being dual coil makes no difference to a beginner, you change the coil head same as any other clearo. And as for VV, set it to 4V and move up or down as you want. Not much of a learning curve there in fairness.

masonchat · 14-03-2014 9:42pm

EGriff wrote: »

I thought we were all in agreement that the Aspire was the best clearo now:

http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/aspirespin.htm

they seem to be constantly changing that offer , now with 1 bottle HOL not sure its a good choice for a starter juice what with steeping n all,

this is my first proper kit and what id recommend

wingnut32 · 14-03-2014 9:50pm

masonchat wrote: »

they seem to be constantly changing that offer , now with 1 bottle HOL not sure its a good choice for a starter juice what with steeping n all,

this is my first proper kit and what id recommend

In fairness it was always one bottle of hol, no steeping required

Neil_Sedaka · 14-03-2014 9:50pm

EGriff wrote: »

It being dual coil makes no difference to a beginner, you change the coil head same as any other clearo. And as for VV, set it to 4V and move up or down as you want. Not much of a learning curve there in fairness.

Big difference in price though, €54 as opposed to €16
Most beginners would want to test the water for as little outlay as possible, in case vaping wasn't for them.

Also, I didn't like the Aspire tank, too airy and hot a hit from it for me.

wingnut32 · 14-03-2014 9:58pm

Neil_Sedaka wrote: »

No not me, Dual coil and VV for beginners?? I think they would find it too much of a learning curve.

I disagree, people catch on pretty quick. The great thing about a vv starter kit is that it gives the user an option and more of a chance to succeed.

Neil_Sedaka · 14-03-2014 10:01pm

wingnut32 wrote: »

I disagree, people catch on pretty quick. The great thing about a vv starter kit is that it gives the user an option and more of a chance to succeed.

I disagree with that, I think it just complicates things for the beginner TBH.
Keep it simple, with quality parts!

wingnut32 · 14-03-2014 10:04pm

Neil_Sedaka wrote: »

I disagree with that, I think it just complicates things for the beginner TBH.
Keep it simple, with quality parts!

Believe me, I see this every day with various people and I have yet to meet anybody who said it was over complicated.

Turn the dial up=stronger hit, turn it down= softer hit. Simples!

Neil_Sedaka · 14-03-2014 10:08pm

wingnut32 wrote: »

Believe me, I see this every day with various people and I have yet to meet anybody who said it was over complicated.

Overpriced for the beginner though! It's a device geared more towards the seasoned vaper.

I never even heard about variable voltage until I was happily vaping for over 18 months!

I honestly think it's overkill.

wingnut32 · 14-03-2014 10:15pm

Neil_Sedaka wrote: »

Overpriced for the beginner though! It's a device geared more towards the seasoned vaper.

I never even heard about variable voltage until I was happily vaping for over 18 months!

I honestly think it's overkill.

Again, I disagree. Some people are quite happy on a regular 3.7 battery but there are those that are not and thats where the having the option of the vv comes in. Ive talked to many people who show up with some knock off ego battery with a bog standard clearo where you cant even change the head looking for something better.

I do agree with you on quality parts though, sometimes the branded stuff is more expensive than cheap ego batteries that you can import for a dollar!

masonchat · 14-03-2014 10:15pm

wingnut32 wrote: »

In fairness it was always one bottle of hol, no steeping required

I got 3 bottles of wingnuts or mom and pops cant remember which with mine 6 week ago , recently saw it offered with 4 bottles now 1 HOL, was 650mah as basic when i got it now 900mah

grindle · 14-03-2014 10:17pm

VV was the thing that convinced me it was a permanent change rather than a "maybe this'll work" proposition.

It might seem a little alien to a newbie but PCs, smartphones and tablets are much more daunting to a newbie, yet they all manage to get their heads around it for the benefits.

The price is small considering the much larger cost of buying the almost-satisfying first kit, then the actually-satisfying second. I realise I'm saying that on a specialist forum and most vapers are possibly getting by with fixed-voltage, low-power devices. I'd always rather they weren't just getting by.
People on NRT get by then fail. I want them to be convinced.

wingnut32 · 14-03-2014 10:18pm

masonchat wrote: »

I got 3 bottles of wingnuts or mom and pops cant remember which with mine 6 week ago , recently saw it offered with 4 bottles now 1 HOL, was 650mah as basic when i got it now 900mah

Your mixing the aspire kit and the kanger twist kit up, they are two seperate kits

masonchat · 14-03-2014 10:23pm

wingnut32 wrote: »

Your mixing the aspire kit and the kanger twist kit up, they are two seperate kits

My sincerest apologies my good man , i stand not for the first time on this site corrected

EDIT hardware wise which would you say is best , my dad is considering takin the plunge from cigalike,

Neil_Sedaka · 14-03-2014 10:24pm

Grand, not willing to get into an argument here

My point is simply this, a 900mah battery, a H2 clearomizer and some juice should give any new vaper a taste of things to come for less than €20

Perhaps after a few months they may want to try a VTR or an Eflare.
If I was to recommend a kit to family or friends tomorrow, I would tell them to get the H2 kit.

Cheers.

accaguest · 14-03-2014 10:27pm

The first battery I got was an Ego Twist but I never used the VV. I don't think many would do either. You've kind of only got a very few juices and all your clearos (if you even have more than one) are probably going to be the same so when would you really.

It adds a little confusion imo, because I kept feeling I should be using it, but never got any benefit and then wondered was there something I wasn't doing right.

Evod kit for me. 3.7v, BCC, only slight gurgling and a little TLC required with the genuine kits, and they look and feel good.

Still use it (along with Janty clearos), no real plan to change.

wingnut32 · 14-03-2014 10:28pm

masonchat wrote: »

My sincerest apologies my good man , i stand not for the first time on this site corrected

EDIT hardware wise which would you say is best , my dad is considering takin the plunge from cigalike,

TBH I think the spinners are better although others would disagree with me. Essentially they are both the same kit though.

masonchat · 14-03-2014 10:36pm

http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/aspirespin.htm this said 2 900mah few min ago now 2 650mah batteries i have the 2 pages open infront of me b4 anyone says ive vaped too tuch

Neil_Sedaka · 14-03-2014 10:42pm

Looks like they downgraded the batteries from 900 to crappy 650 ones.

wingnut32 · 14-03-2014 10:50pm

Neil_Sedaka wrote: »

Looks like they downgraded the batteries from 900 to crappy 650 ones.

Now now Neil, no reason to be sore. Those batteries are genuine, no knockoff's.

masonchat · 14-03-2014 10:50pm

I think were being watched neil :eek:

Neil_Sedaka · 14-03-2014 10:55pm

wingnut32 wrote: »

Now now Neil, no reason to be sore. Those batteries are genuine, no knockoff's.

I don't understand what you mean by that, please elaborate?

Neil_Sedaka · 14-03-2014 10:56pm

masonchat wrote: »

I think were being watched neil :eek:

Would appear so!

wingnut32 · 14-03-2014 10:57pm

Neil_Sedaka wrote: »

I don't understand what you mean by that, please elaborate?

Perhaps you can first explain why you think the batteries are crappy?

thewintermute · 14-03-2014 10:57pm

The kit I would recommend now is a protank mini with a VV battery. (Generic ego style, get two). Saves having to upgrade once you get a good one to begin. Doesn't cost the earth on fasttech.com either. A hell of a lot cheaper and better than the 'kits' being sold to the newbies in shopping centres up and down the land.

dePeatrick · 14-03-2014 11:00pm

Had vv batteries on egos and thought them a total waste of time tbh....turn the voltage up and a burnt taste.....preferred the no variable voltage egos until I got mods with IMR batteries, way better, twist or VV egos way over-rated IMO....

wingnut32 · 14-03-2014 11:04pm

dePeatrick wrote: »

Had vv batteries on egos and thought them a total waste of time tbh....turn the voltage up and a burnt taste.....preferred the no variable voltage egos until I got mods with IMR batteries, way better, twist or VV egos way over-rated IMO....

Any issues Ive ever had with a burnt taste was the clearo/atomizer and not the battery..strange.

masonchat · 14-03-2014 11:05pm

The kit i would recommend will now be from somewhere else is all i know with 900 mah yeah , ill just shop around for seperates i can give him cpl clearos , try to gain 4 euro loose 54

Neil_Sedaka · 14-03-2014 11:05pm

wingnut32 wrote: »

Perhaps you can first explain why you think the batteries are crappy?

They are inferior to the originally advertised 900mah batteries, nearly a third of a drop in power.

Now, perhaps you can explain your comment.

"Now now Neil, no reason to be sore. Those batteries are genuine, no knockoff's."

dePeatrick · 14-03-2014 11:10pm

wingnut32 wrote: »

Any issues Ive ever had with a burnt taste was the clearo/atomizer and not the battery..strange.

Nonsense....!

grindle · 14-03-2014 11:14pm

dePeatrick wrote: »

Nonsense....!

...because...?

dePeatrick · 14-03-2014 11:17pm

grindle wrote: »

...because...?

VV does not make the slightest difference on ego type devices.....not at all unless you are into placebo effect .....:)

wingnut32 · 14-03-2014 11:18pm

dePeatrick wrote: »

VV does not make the slightest difference on ego type devices.....not at all unless you are into placebo effect .....:)

Oh Christ

Lol

Neil_Sedaka · 14-03-2014 11:21pm

wingnut32 wrote: »

Now now Neil, no reason to be sore. Those batteries are genuine, no knockoff's.

Please explain this statement, I know you are still logged on and watching!

dePeatrick · 14-03-2014 11:21pm

wingnut32 wrote: »

Oh Christ Lol

Imagine......

dePeatrick · 14-03-2014 11:23pm

Wingnuts is from ESI and as such should not be allowed to post on her at all....he/she/it has a commercial interest and therefore is completely biased.....

Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not think I am.....:)

jousting with chairs · 14-03-2014 11:25pm

Hi guys

I bought my first kit about a month ago in a shop in town, 35e for a 650 mah battery, a cart, usb charger and 12ml of juice.

Happy enough with my first couple of days vaping I bought a spare battery, 900 mah for 18e but thought the prices were dear so checked Ebay.
I bought a kit from an English seller that had 2 Ego-t 1100 mah batteries, wall charger,
needle bottle and a hard case for 26e delivered. Delivery took 4-5 days and everything was as advertised so check around before shelling out on stuff.

wingnut32 · 14-03-2014 11:25pm

dePeatrick wrote: »

Wingnuts is from ESI and as such should not be allowed to post on her at all....he/she/it has a commercial interest and therefore is completely biased.....

Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not think I am.....:)

Classy as always buddy

dePeatrick · 14-03-2014 11:26pm

wingnut32 wrote: »

Classy as always buddy

Just saying it as it as, if you think that is classy, well then you should see me when I am pissed......:)

grindle · 14-03-2014 11:27pm

dePeatrick wrote: »

Imagine......

It's impossible to imagine, I've scaled the voltage up and down with a Twist and it definitely works. Every time I try my friend's Twist I have to pump it up because he likes it piddly. When he takes it back he has to drop it down because he'll choke.

wingnut32 · 14-03-2014 11:28pm

dePeatrick wrote: »

Just saying it as it as, if you think that is classy, well then you should see me when I am pissed......:)

Ive heard.

dePeatrick · 14-03-2014 11:29pm

grindle wrote: »

It's impossible to imagine, I've scaled the voltage up and down with a Twist and it definitely works. Every time I try my friend's Twist I have to pump it up because he likes it piddly. When he takes it back he has to drop it down because he'll choke.

Yeah but let's face it Grindle....you tend to be a bit out of it most times.....and when is the last time you used a twist honestly, you have been vPing 30 - 35 watts as long as I have seen you on here.....

Piriz · 14-03-2014 11:30pm

hi,

i got one of these http://www.joyetech.com/product/eRoll.php a few weeks ago... its very slick and works superbly...its got an auto atomiser so you don't have to press a button like on some of them... i watched youtube reviews on the product before i bought one from one of the irish websites for 60euro...the reviews all said it was a quality vape...im very happy with it...

dePeatrick · 14-03-2014 11:35pm

At this stage I am convinced that Grindle/Wingnuts/ESI are all the same people, shilling for each other.....I like Grindle in his eccentric way of dealing with vaping and his extraordinary knowledge of everything to do with vaping but I am afraid he is merely a shill for ESI.....as Wingnuts is as well....

We are never going to learn anything new if we allow shills to dictate to us what we vape on or what we choose to use.....we have to be street- wise people....even on the Internet.....:)

Neil_Sedaka · 14-03-2014 11:35pm

dePeatrick wrote: »

Wingnuts is from ESI and as such should not be allowed to post on her at all....he/she/it has a commercial interest and therefore is completely biased.....

Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not think I am.....:)

That explains all the links to their site, thought that was against the rules. Mods?

Very poor, won't darken their doorstep again and I have bought from them a lot in the past.

Would still like an explanation regarding the remark about batteries though?
And why the kit went from 900 to 650mah like that?
People like honesty and if it was a typo just say it, simples.

You still there wingnuts / esi

dePeatrick · 14-03-2014 11:40pm

mod note --unfounded accusation removed--

wingnut32 · 14-03-2014 11:43pm

mod note - please pm known vendors or vice versa if you want support - do not ask nor vendors do not respond on this forum

(How about a thread on the) Best Starter Kits?

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