“If you’re expressing your opinion about e-cigarettes in public...

dePeatrick · 14-03-2014 12:01am #1

“If you’re expressing your opinion about e-cigarettes in public, you should know what you’re talking about…”

Interview with....

Dr Konstantinos Farsalinos is a Greek cardiovascular specialist who in recent years has become increasingly high-profile internationally on account of his groundbreaking clinical research into e-cigarettes and the effects of their use.

Link

robbie02 · 21-03-2014 3:16pm

Very good read fair play for posting that up here

rickyjb · 21-03-2014 4:00pm

"a study into the ingredients of e-liquids that was made possible through crowdfunding by vapers and e-cigarette companies."

If you were being cynical you could say that the study wasn't completely unbiased, in the same way as studies funded by tobacco/pharma companies that find "worrying" effects aren't unbiased...

Still an interesting article though. I'm surprised he went as far as saying "I doubt that a non-smoker could be addicted to e-cigarettes. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but I think it’s very difficult." What he was saying is that it's the other chemicals in cigarettes along with nicotine that help to form such a strong addiction. I've read that before but not stated in such a strong way.

dePeatrick · 23-03-2014 5:15pm

rickyjb wrote: »

"a study into the ingredients of e-liquids that was made possible through crowdfunding by vapers and e-cigarette companies."

If you were being cynical you could say that the study wasn't completely unbiased, in the same way as studies funded by tobacco/pharma companies that find "worrying" effects aren't unbiased...

Still an interesting article though. I'm surprised he went as far as saying "I doubt that a non-smoker could be addicted to e-cigarettes. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but I think it’s very difficult." What he was saying is that it's the other chemicals in cigarettes along with nicotine that help to form such a strong addiction. I've read that before but not stated in such a strong way.

Agreed Rickyjb, I think we have to look at every study with a healthy amount of cynicism. Still the old adage "follow the money" is as true with vaping as it was with smoking.

Of course a non smoker could become addicted to e-cigarettes, what he should have said is that the likelihood of a non smoker choosing to use eCigs long enough to become addicted is very unlikely.

I can see this happening in rare cases though as there is a certain "coolness" about using the latest technology......

tommy2bad · 23-03-2014 8:08pm

dePeatrick;
I can see this happening in rare cases though as there is a certain "coolness" about using the latest technology......

Yep it's cool, vaping is cool, bow-ties are cool.... ahem No! not yet.
As things stand ecigs are less cool now than when the first cigalikes appeared, then they had novelty and the allure of the new. Now their seen as a sad week willed attempt to quit smoking. Or worse as a germ, cancer and toxin spreading device designed by the Chinese in collaboration with big tobacco to lure our kids into a life of vice, drug addiction and eventually prostitution.
Strangely smoking is still cool even if it's the devils cabbage.

dePeatrick · 23-03-2014 8:27pm

tommy2bad wrote: »

Yep it's cool, vaping is cool, bow-ties are cool.... ahem No! not yet.
As things stand ecigs are less cool now than when the first cigalikes appeared, then they had novelty and the allure of the new. Now their seen as a sad week willed attempt to quit smoking. Or worse as a germ, cancer and toxin spreading device designed by the Chinese in collaboration with big tobacco to lure our kids into a life of vice, drug addiction and eventually prostitution.
Strangely smoking is still cool even if it's the devils cabbage.

What ya mean bow ties are not cool....!!!

A "certain" coolness is what I said.....just like tattoos....some view them as horrific, others as cool....

I have seen how other people around me have gotten interested in the range of hardware that goes with vaping and like myself are interested in tinkering around with computers/motorbikes or anything else that requires an amount if technical knowledge....nerdy but still viewed as cool....:)

Going Forward · 24-03-2014 10:12pm

Lots of e cig coverage on RTE today:

Morning Ireland Jim Reilly, talking complete baloney, around 8.15 (2nd hour of programme)- worth listening to.

Professor Luke Clancy Tobacco Free Research Institue, News at 1 (I think?) slightly more enthusiastic than last time I heard him.

"Brian" on Liveline. Smoked 80 a day and preaching about willpower. Wants ecigs banned.....................

All part of the celebration of the smoking workplace ban 1oth anniversary.:)

tommy2bad · 25-03-2014 1:23am

Going Forward wrote: »

Lots of e cig coverage on RTE today:

Morning Ireland Jim Reilly, talking complete baloney, around 8.15 (2nd hour of programme)- worth listening to.

Professor Luke Clancy Tobacco Free Research Institue, News at 1 (I think?) slightly more enthusiastic than last time I heard him.

"Brian" on Liveline. Smoked 80 a day and preaching about willpower. Wants ecigs banned.....................

All part of the celebration of the smoking workplace ban 1oth anniversary.:)

If you call dismissing the isue of whether ecigs were safer by claiming that that wasn't the point slightly more enthusiastic.

Luke Clancy is a unapologetic prohibitionist and opposes harm reduction of any kind.

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