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Mass shooting New Zealand Mosque - MOD NOTE POST #1

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  • #1402
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,516 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Basil3 wrote: »
    It's not uncommon for prisoners to be transferred to their country of citizenship, AFAIK, possibly through a prisoner exchange or something.

    usually when they are near the end of their sentence. that wont be for a long time.


  • #1403
    Gregor Samsa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,090 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Basil3 wrote: »
    Is there any word on where his sentence will be served? No doubt it will cost a ridiculous amount of money to the NZ taxpayer. Hopefully there's a way he can be sent back to Aussie to rot.

    He'll serve it in NZ, and why shouldn't he? He commited the crime in NZ, NZ get to punish him. The monetary cost of that is negligible in the larger scheme of things really, and part of the normal cost of a functioning society.

    Countries don't deport people to serve sentences elsewhere. Occasionally a prisoner will be sent back to their own country during their sentence to serve the remainder of their time on compassionate grounds. Or they get deported after they've served their sentence. But it's entirely normal and right for a country to imprison someone themselves, regardless of their nationality.

    John Shaw, Ireland's longest serving prisoner at 44 years inside and counting, is English.


  • #1404
    [Deleted User]
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    Gregor Samsa wrote: »

    He'll serve it in NZ, and why shouldn't he? He commited the crime in NZ, NZ get to punish him. The monetary cost of that is negligible in the larger scheme of things really, and part of the normal cost of a functioning society.

    It's estimated he will cost the state over $3m in the next 2 years alone. It may be negligible compared to other things, but when compared to the normal cost of housing a prisoner, it's astronomical.


    Regardless, it's good to know he's been given the most extreme punishment ever handed out in NZ.


  • #1405
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Will he be in solitary confinement?
    We could be looking at 50 years of incarceration here


  • #1406
    Yeah_Right
    Registered Users Posts: 6,036 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Will he be in solitary confinement?
    We could be looking at 50 years of incarceration here

    He might need to. I assume that he will be serving his time Paremoremo and there are a few characters in there that would love to get their hands a white supremacist.


  • #1407
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    I’m not sure I agree with the lock them up and throw away the key sort of justice but I suppose there are always exceptions


  • #1408
    Guy:Incognito
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    Gael23 wrote: »
    I’m not sure I agree with the lock them up and throw away the key sort of justice but I suppose there are always exceptions

    What would your punishment be for him so?


  • #1409
    ShatterAlan
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    Basil3 wrote: »
    Is there any word on where his sentence will be served? No doubt it will cost a ridiculous amount of money to the NZ taxpayer. Hopefully there's a way he can be sent back to Aussie to rot.


    I'm sure there are a few Kiwis doing time in Australian prisons so I imagine it balances out.

    Funnily people who always dig up the taxpayer argument were the same ones who were vehemently opposed to Michaela Collum Connolly being returned to Ireland to serve her sentence and were licking their lips at her doing time in a tough Lima prison and the Peruvian taxpayer be damned.


  • #1410
    mvl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭mvl


    ShatterAlan wrote: »
    I'm sure there are a few Kiwis doing time in Australian prisons so I imagine it balances out..
    thought AU is deporting lots of them tho - or no ?

    but on this, does NZ make an exception for him now (as in, does he meet the usual residency requirements where a non-national is not deported at all ?)


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