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RTÉ need to up their forecasting presentation

  • 10-02-2018 1:33pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,993 ✭✭✭✭


    This actually happened on TG4 this week, but nobody seems to have noticed.
    Some of us would prefer this, light on important details, version https://twitter.com/BLOCTG4/status/960529053353574400


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    I don't understand what your point is though....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,897 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    TG4 weather girls are so hot. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭piuswal


    no snow then!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    RTE need to up their forecasting presentation


    Ah, I get it - you want the weather forecast broadcast in Irish, don't you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,993 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Comhra wrote: »
    Ah, I get it - you want the weather forecast broadcast in Irish, don't you?
    No.
    I want to see Evelyn singing the rain, Gerry twirling the wind, Joanna putting more oomph in the frost


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,993 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    TG4 presenters, will we see warm weather again?
    DVmmYidX4AEQkpp.jpg:small


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,597 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    They should give these guys a go



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,354 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Joanna Donnelly is about as much as you are going to get RTÉ to 'up' their forecasting presentation, she is a bit more personable than the rest.

    Met É and RTÉ take this stuff seriously, they are the forecast of record and both are a public service. Yes, its a bit staid, but you can't say you don't get the facts, clearly and dispassionately.

    Me, I'd take that any day of the week over..... "And its a very happy 107th baaaarthday to Agnes, who is going to get a few spots of rain over her house tomorrow but it'll clear up lovely for the weekend, great drying out for you Agnes!!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,993 ✭✭✭✭zell12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,993 ✭✭✭✭zell12




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  • Registered Users Posts: 151 ✭✭MackQ


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Joanna Donnelly is about as much as you are going to get RTÉ to 'up' their forecasting presentation, she is a bit more personable than the rest.

    Met É and RTÉ take this stuff seriously, they are the forecast of record and both are a public service. Yes, its a bit staid, but you can't say you don't get the facts, clearly and dispassionately.

    Me, I'd take that any day of the week over..... "And its a very happy 107th baaaarthday to Agnes, who is going to get a few spots of rain over her house tomorrow but it'll clear up lovely for the weekend, great drying out for you Agnes!!"

    Not so seriously that they can be arsed to switch on the spell checker. This weeks forecast on Met Éireann:

    NATIONAL OUTLOOK
    General: Cool at first, but much milder later in the week and next weekend.

    Cold and dry for most of Monday night, with some frost, but rain will arrive in Atlatc ;) coastal counties before dawn. Lowest temperatures between 0 and +4 degrees, but values will rise later in the night. Light breezes generally but fresh southerly winds will develop on western coasts later.

    Tuesday will start dry in the east. Rain in the west will spread to all parts during the day, in fresh southerly winds. Top temperatures of 9 to 12 degrees. The rain will clear early Tuesday night to isolated showers. Lows of 3 to 5 degrees, so no frost.

    Wednesday will be a cool, brrezy :rolleyes: day with sunshine and showers. Top temperatures 9 tyo :o 12 C.

    Thursday and Friday will be milder days, with moderate to fresh south to southwest winds. Rather cloudy overall with possibly some mist and drizzle on Atlantic coasts. But some bright weather too, best in the east of the couhtry :eek:. Temperatures should be in the mid teens, locally higher in any bright spells.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,899 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    MackQ wrote: »
    Not so seriously that they can be arsed to switch on the spell checker. This weeks forecast on Met Éireann:

    NATIONAL OUTLOOK
    General: Cool at first, but much milder later in the week and next weekend.

    Cold and dry for most of Monday night, with some frost, but rain will arrive in Atlatc ;) coastal counties before dawn. Lowest temperatures between 0 and +4 degrees, but values will rise later in the night. Light breezes generally but fresh southerly winds will develop on western coasts later.

    Tuesday will start dry in the east. Rain in the west will spread to all parts during the day, in fresh southerly winds. Top temperatures of 9 to 12 degrees. The rain will clear early Tuesday night to isolated showers. Lows of 3 to 5 degrees, so no frost.

    Wednesday will be a cool, brrezy :rolleyes: day with sunshine and showers. Top temperatures 9 tyo :o 12 C.

    Thursday and Friday will be milder days, with moderate to fresh south to southwest winds. Rather cloudy overall with possibly some mist and drizzle on Atlantic coasts. But some bright weather too, best in the east of the couhtry :eek:. Temperatures should be in the mid teens, locally higher in any bright spells.

    jesus, thats like i wrote it:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    I will say I constantly notice errors in the written forecast. It's like they rush to get it up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    I will say I constantly notice errors in the written forecast. It's like they rush to get it up!

    Have to say spelling errors on the site and on the TV forecasts don't bother me in the least. Small scale issue in the greater scheme of things.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,536 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    Have to say spelling errors on the site and on the TV forecasts don't bother me in the least. Small scale issue in the greater scheme of things.

    It looks very unprofessional in my opinion and would make you doubt their thoroughness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭hawkwing


    Jean Byrne looks to be heading to a rubber fetish party or something tonight :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    To be honest it always seems like they are heading to a wedding or some kind of party, why can they not wear ordinary simple clothes were not interested in the clothes they are wearing only the weather.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭piuswal


    murpho999 wrote: »
    It looks very unprofessional in my opinion and would make you doubt their thoroughness.

    While undesirable I think you will find that there is such pressure on the actual forecasting preparation side, where the thoroughness is absolutely essential, that on occasions spelling errors slip through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,984 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    TG4 weather girls are so hot. :D

    She's no Michael Fish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    piuswal wrote: »
    While undesirable I think you will find that there is such pressure on the actual forecasting preparation side, where the thoroughness is absolutely essential, that on occasions spelling errors slip through.


    There is a controversial suggestion here that they, like us, are just human...

    New Moon



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,993 ✭✭✭✭zell12




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    I missed this myself but apparently Siobhan Ryan had a bit of a nightmare presenting the forecast on RTE last week.

    http://www.msn.com/en-ie/entertainment/entertainmenttv/rte-weather-presenter-siobhan-ryan-has-hilarious-blunder-during-report/ar-BBLd9Ha?li=BBr5KbJ


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,207 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,897 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    > than BBC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,993 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    I can barely understand this Donegal speech, had to listen a few times, at least he speaks slowly. Imagine if RTE1 weather presenters had such a seriously strong regional diction!
    https://twitter.com/TG4TV/status/1326963740806406144?s=20


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    The main issue is their terrible and frequently inconsistent graphics - yesterday was a case in point. For Friday it was sun from behind the cloud symbols but on the 5 day summary graphic it was rain clouds. This is typical of them unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,512 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Since when did weather forecast presenting turn into a Lovely Girl Festival?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭boardise


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    Have to say spelling errors on the site and on the TV forecasts don't bother me in the least. Small scale issue in the greater scheme of things.

    True indeed...but I don't think it's unreasonable to expect higher standards from a national broadcaster. They have a full panoply of backroom assistants, editors etc.-and every technological gadget going. The small things are actually the easiest to get right.
    It's the same ding--dong every year, not like they have to deal with new concepts.
    Apart from events like anti-cyclones or storms..it's basically the same ...rainy in the west , drier in the east, colder in the north , warmer in the south, most things 'average for the time of year '.
    In fact they could replay most of last year's forecasts and we'd hardly notice much difference.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭boardise


    The main issue is their terrible and frequently inconsistent graphics - yesterday was a case in point. For Friday it was sun from behind the cloud symbols but on the 5 day summary graphic it was rain clouds. This is typical of them unfortunately.

    They put a temperature figure in the middle of the map which is absolutely meaningless. It's ostensibly a high but no indication of when or where it might occur.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭boardise


    The main issue is their terrible and frequently inconsistent graphics - yesterday was a case in point. For Friday it was sun from behind the cloud symbols but on the 5 day summary graphic it was rain clouds. This is typical of them unfortunately.
    They plonk a temperature figure in the middle of the map which is connected to nothing specific and therefore totally meaningless


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    boardise wrote: »
    They plonk a temperature figure in the middle of the map which is connected to nothing specific and therefore totally meaningless

    I never understand when they say its going to rain tomorrow then show sunshine and cloud in the graphic at the end


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    zell12 wrote: »
    I can barely understand this Donegal speech, had to listen a few times, at least he speaks slowly. Imagine if RTE1 weather presenters had such a seriously strong regional diction!
    https://twitter.com/TG4TV/status/1326963740806406144?s=20

    Funny, I can easily understand every word of that while I need to read subtitles a lot of the time for the Dublin/Galway Irish that RTE always use


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    Since when did weather forecast presenting turn into a Lovely Girl Festival?

    A friend of mine left for America 12 years ago. He misses the tg4 weather

    So at least 12 years is the answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    Since when did weather forecast presenting turn into a Lovely Girl Festival?

    Have you ever seen the Spanish forecasters :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Have you ever seen the Spanish forecasters :)

    You mean Mexican?



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    The main issue is their terrible and frequently inconsistent graphics - yesterday was a case in point. For Friday it was sun from behind the cloud symbols but on the 5 day summary graphic it was rain clouds. This is typical of them unfortunately.

    the graphics are terrible in general, even when they are correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Met Eireann should just scrap their RTE gig, much like the UK Met Office has done with the BBC over in the UK, and run their own forecasting channel on YouTube or something similar (even on their own website) I rarely watch the RTE weather these days, because, despite being tax payer and license payer funded, we are still infested with advertisements on both sides of the forecast, that itself is 'sponsored'. If I pay a NetFlix or YouTube subscription, I do so in order to not have advertisements that take up more time than the actual content, spewed out at me and insulting what little intelligence I may have. Yet with RTE, we pay heavily, and they still infest us with these ads. These cretins are just raking it in from all sides, but I guess the obscenely high salaries of their highly overrated and overvalued D4 'presenters' must be maintained.

    The UK Met forecast on YouTube contains far superior, and easier to read maps and graphics that those on the BBC now, which have gone seriously downhill since the UKMO pulled out. Met Eireann could easily do the same. Ad free, not limited by time constraints given to them by RTE producers, lest they might lose valuable ad revenue, and the freedom to present in a fashion that is worthy of them.

    New Moon



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    UK met only has 100k subscribers which surprised me, though many more will have it bookmarked no doubt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    Met Eireann should just scrap their RTE gig, much like the UK Met Office has done with the BBC over in the UK, and run their own forecasting channel on YouTube or something similar (even on their own website) I rarely watch the RTE weather these days, because, despite being tax payer and license payer funded, we are still infested with advertisements on both sides of the forecast, that itself is 'sponsored'. If I pay a NetFlix or YouTube subscription, I do so in order to not have advertisements that take up more time than the actual content, spewed out at me and insulting what little intelligence I may have. Yet with RTE, we pay heavily, and they still infest us with these ads. These cretins are just raking it in from all sides, but I guess the obscenely high salaries of their highly overrated and overvalued D4 'presenters' must be maintained.

    The UK Met forecast on YouTube contains far superior, and easier to read maps and graphics that those on the BBC now, which have gone seriously downhill since the UKMO pulled out. Met Eireann could easily do the same. Ad free, not limited by time constraints given to them by RTE producers, lest they might lose valuable ad revenue, and the freedom to present in a fashion that is worthy of them.

    I can't stand that Avonmore ad that's on at the moment, with your one chomping on cereal and they cut it right at a frame where she's making the worst-looking face.

    I have a full Sky subscription, yet I have to put up with frequent ads during the golf, football and F1. I'm not against the dual funding model, though I do agree that a big revamp is needed in the weather bulletins (starting with teaching some of them presentation techniques, like not swallowing mid-sentence).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,493 ✭✭✭francois


    Never thought I'd live to see the day where people are getting bent out of shape over ME's weather forcasts


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,971 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    The UKMO one is far superior, don't even need the sound up to know what is being forecast. pretty must the same format every day.
    Looking at their forecast tonight it shows Waterford in for a wet day yet Met.ie is 11am to 3 pm with Monday will be mostly cloudy with rain becoming widespread during the morning, accompanied by moderate to fresh southwesterly winds. Maximum temperatures of 13 to 15 degrees. Some dry spells may develop inland later, but many areas will remain overcast and misty, with further rain and drizzle. Hill and coastal fog also.

    Met.ie were a hell of a lot better back in the 80's and 90's, even the graphics was better than today. From what i see of the forecasts here is that they all seem to have their own templates and present their way. There is no consistency and seems very amateurish sometimes. Would love to see another profession service start forecasting here in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,536 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    spookwoman wrote: »
    The UKMO one is far superior, don't even need the sound up to know what is being forecast. pretty must the same format every day.
    Looking at their forecast tonight it shows Waterford in for a wet day yet Met.ie is 11am to 3 pm with Monday will be mostly cloudy with rain becoming widespread during the morning, accompanied by moderate to fresh southwesterly winds. Maximum temperatures of 13 to 15 degrees. Some dry spells may develop inland later, but many areas will remain overcast and misty, with further rain and drizzle. Hill and coastal fog also.

    Met.ie were a hell of a lot better back in the 80's and 90's, even the graphics was better than today. From what i see of the forecasts here is that they all seem to have their own templates and present their way. There is no consistency and seems very amateurish sometimes. Would love to see another profession service start forecasting here in Ireland.

    Wrong as there was no Met.ie in the 80s or 90s. So there.:)

    Either way, the graphics are better today.

    In the 80's they had a guy standing beside a map with a pointy stick.



    Video above shows it. From 1985. Weather starts around 5:10. Before that Anne Doyle in her prime.

    Either way, not everything is bad nowadays despite what people claim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,971 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Wrong as there was no Met.ie in the 80s or 90s. So there.:)

    Either way, the graphics are better today.

    In the 80's they had a guy standing beside a map with a pointy stick.



    Video above shows it. From 1985. Weather starts around 5:10. Before that Anne Doyle in her prime.

    Either way, not everything is bad nowadays despite what people claim.
    Met.ie Irish met service whatever you want to call it, it's the same lot.
    They may have used pointy sticks back then but you used to get a line(s) dividing the weather if one area was wet, another sunny etc. Lot of the time now it's guess weather in your area. MetUK yesterday evening was lot more accurate today for here than MET.ie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,536 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Met.ie Irish met service whatever you want to call it, it's the same lot.
    They may have used pointy sticks back then but you used to get a line(s) dividing the weather if one area was wet, another sunny etc. Lot of the time now it's guess weather in your area. MetUK yesterday evening was lot more accurate today for here than MET.ie.

    It's Met Eireann, not that difficult.

    I'm sorry but I'm not accepting that maps in 1985 are better than what Met Eireann provide now.

    Nor do I use UK Met office for Irish weather.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,971 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    murpho999 wrote: »
    It's Met Eireann, not that difficult.

    I'm sorry but I'm not accepting that maps in 1985 are better than what Met Eireann provide now.

    Nor do I use UK Met office for Irish weather.

    As you were saying..
    From 1994 met-service.jpg

    Well I do not rely on 1 service for my weather If I did I would one very wet person if I had followed met.ie today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    I find the met eireann forecasts way off the mark lately.
    Dhs they were more accurate when they were depending on some fella in a field with a bucket;)

    Don't know the presenters anymore so can't comment on them. Used to like gerald fleming and the people before him. They seemed to be actual meteorologists not the tv personalities some stations have now. Feeling old*sigh*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,899 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Don't know the presenters anymore so can't comment on them. Used to like gerald fleming and the people before him. They seemed to be actual meteorologists not the tv personalities some stations have now. Feeling old*sigh*

    The reality is, many scientists tend to be poor communicators, it's one of the reasons why we 're moving towards more polished presentors, but the scientific feel is slowly being lost for us weather geeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    I find the met eireann forecasts way off the mark lately.
    Dhs they were more accurate when they were depending on some fella in a field with a bucket;)

    Don't know the presenters anymore so can't comment on them. Used to like gerald fleming and the people before him. They seemed to be actual meteorologists not the tv personalities some stations have now. Feeling old*sigh*

    All RTÉ1 presenters are qualified meteorologists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭compsys


    It's been commented on already but my two main problems are:

    1. The graphics - as someone else commented the graphics almost seemed better 15 years ago than they are now. They look so poor. How is this even possible?

    2. Consistency - it feels like there's a lot of personal bias in the forecasts - sometimes in the space of an hour or two a June forecast could go from "feeling mild with some sun peaking through with temperature reaching 18º or higher" to "feeling cool for mid summer, with temperatures average at best in mostly cloudy conditions'. I guess it depends if you're a glass half full person or not. But there needs to be more consistency around what constitutes cool, mild, warm and hot in each month. Similarly, one day an 18º temp on the map might be a red to convey warmth, the next day it's suddenly a yellow conveying a cooler temp - no consistency.

    For me however, I've no problem with non-meteorologists presenting the weather. I find TV presenters often do a better and 'cleaner' job.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,467 Mod ✭✭✭✭mickger844posts


    All RTÉ1 presenters are qualified meteorologists.

    This is not correct. Presenters in the daytime eg. after the news at one are not qualified meteorologists. After 6 one news and 9 news are qualified.


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