Carrantuohill easiest/safest route

lioscarrig · 27-02-2012 11:46pm

we're looking at going up next weekend, some experienced hikers, some not so experienced, which is best route at this time of the year?? Caher ? if so where is the best place to park, there could be 10 - 15 of us ?

Slogger Jogger · 28-02-2012 9:14pm

I've only been up Carrauntoohill once. Used this route. Was relatively straightforward. http://www.imra.ie/events/view/tab/maps/id/839/

28-02-2012 11:01pm

Slogger Jogger wrote: »

I've only been up Carrauntoohill once. Used this route. Was relatively straightforward. http://www.imra.ie/events/view/tab/maps/id/839/

Blatant "I ran up Carrauntoohil" post!

You coming down for the IMRA thingy over Easter? Sent Rene a message on facebook. What does a "hike/run" up Carrauntoohil mean? Will do the run from Sneem to Kenmare anyway.

Slogger Jogger · 28-02-2012 11:08pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Blatant "I ran up Carrauntoohil" post!

You coming down for the IMRA thingy over Easter? Sent Rene a message on facebook. What does a "hike/run" up Carrauntoohil mean? Will do the run from Sneem to Kenmare anyway.

Ha. Well at my level it was more of a walk believe me. Won't make the Easter trek but will make the June main event. Hike / run is effectively what it is for most. The steep bits are better walkable. It probably also means that they will cater for all levels of ability. If theres any elite guys there they can plough ahead.

28-02-2012 11:40pm

Its a great route for running (or so I hear!), but not a popular one for trekking. The start point means most have to drive all the way around the Reeks, a 30/45 mins drive beyond the usual approaches. It's even far away from the Climbers Inn. So it lacks the convenience (and some would say scenery) of some of the more famous Hags Glen centred approaches, and its a bit of a trek from there to the top. One can get a good mix of a fairly safe scramble by parking in the Black Valley to the south east of Curraghmore Lake (just below the "Way" on "the Kerry Way" writing on your map), then making straight for Curraghmore itself before turning for Caher and on to Carrauntoohil.

Sean duine · 29-02-2012 12:18am

There is no doubt ,that for a first timer ,the best and safest way up and down is the Caher route,make sure to bring plenty of drinking water as you dehydrate very quickly,also suitable clothing as the weather up there changes very rapidly

Domenec · 06-03-2012 4:23pm

along with friends we want to go Carrantuohill up. Since we are arriving from a distance I would like to know whether there is a possibility of pitching a tent in Cronins Yard. Perhaps somebody knows how much it he costs, or you know some other places where it is possible to pitch the camping

Mickeroo · 06-03-2012 4:41pm

Domenec wrote: »

along with friends we want to go Carrantuohill up. Since we are arriving from a distance I would like to know whether there is a possibility of pitching a tent in Cronins Yard. Perhaps somebody knows how much it he costs, or you know some other places where it is possible to pitch the camping

Head off up into the mountains and camp up there, you wouldn't have to go too far in to find a decent spot I wouldn't think.

06-03-2012 7:19pm

Domenec wrote: »

along with friends we want to go Carrantuohill up. Since we are arriving from a distance I would like to know whether there is a possibility of pitching a tent in Cronins Yard. Perhaps somebody knows how much it he costs, or you know some other places where it is possible to pitch the camping

There is a field or two beside the car park there, suspect it's pretty cheap, and they have a cafe and toilets and probably showers there too.

In the Hag's Glen itself, not so sure, a lot of the land is boggier. Have seen people camp on the southern shore of Lough Callee, and right outside the rescue hut at the bottom of Howling Ridge.

Domenec · 20-03-2012 10:08pm

thanks for all signs.
Another question.
There is some WMS server where I will find topographical maps Macgillycuddy's Reeks or perhaps somebody has some other digital maps of this region?

Chris O Donoghue · 27-03-2012 12:41pm

Domenec wrote: »

thanks for all signs.
Another question.
There is some WMS server where I will find topographical maps Macgillycuddy's Reeks or perhaps somebody has some other digital maps of this region?

Choices are few but you might get some ideas here:
http://eirepreneur.blogs.com/eirepreneur/2005/04/openeir_the_ope.html
or here:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/

there are a a lot of electronic copies of OSI maps out there but they are subject to copyright.

Take a look also at http://www.oziexplorer.com/ and maybe do a search for OziExplorer maps online.

Domenec · 27-03-2012 6:25pm

Great,
Thanks a lot:)

Jimmy Bottles · 29-03-2012 5:26pm

Guys, is there a descent route off of Beenkeragh.

Thinking of doing the ring of the 3 peaks going up Caher. Couldn't be arsed tracking all the way back if possible.

Anything up to and around the steepness of curve gully I could handle if there isn't much loose scree.

29-03-2012 5:57pm

Jimmy Bottles wrote: »

Guys, is there a descent route off of Beenkeragh.

Thinking of doing the ring of the 3 peaks going up Caher. Couldn't be arsed tracking all the way back if possible.

Anything up to and around the steepness of curve gully I could handle if there isn't much loose scree.

The two main walking routes off Beenkeragh are north, veering east to Knockbrinnea, or north, veering west to Skregmore. In fact, if you want to do the 3 peaks, and heading up Caher, across the ridge to Carrauntoohil and then to Beenkeragh, you are in effect doing the Coomloughera Horseshoe - in which case you should be descending via Skregmore.

http://www.kerrymountainrescue.ie/routes/caher.html

duckysauce · 04-04-2012 10:26pm

hi hopefully going up on sunday first time

, dopey question any advantages between cronins yard v lisleibane carpark going up down zig zags , staying in killarney

thanks

SomeFool · 04-04-2012 10:32pm

duckysauce wrote: »

hi hopefully going up on sunday first time , dopey question any advantages between cronins yard v lisleibane carpark going up down zig zags , staying in killarney

thanks

Cafe & showers in Cronins yard, car would be safer too I guess, now that the river is bridged I'd give Cronins my vote.

duckysauce · 04-04-2012 11:02pm

SomeFool wrote: »

Cafe & showers in Cronins yard, car would be safer too I guess, now that the river is bridged I'd give Cronins my vote.

sweet thanks for advice

Mad Benny · 24-04-2012 11:54am

Anybody know of any groups going up Carrantuohill in June or July?

Would love to go up it but a bit nervous without an experienced hill walker.

SomeFool · 24-04-2012 12:44pm

I think the Outdoor shop in the Killarney Outlet centre run trips during the summer,
Tel: +353 (0)64 663 6710 • Email: info@kerryoutdoorsports.com

acorn · 25-04-2012 10:03am

Anybody know of any groups going up Carrantuohill in June or July?

You might find some options to suit you here.

http://www.killarney.ie/walkkillarney.php

Gillo · 08-05-2012 1:57pm

Just to give an update, I was down there over the weekend and the devils ladder is unbelievable. I hadn't done it in about ten years and only used it as an escape route after one of the group got very sick.
I definitely wouldn't go near it again

TheSpecialOne · 01-06-2012 10:35pm

Hope to climb this tomorrow with two friends...not very experinced but were not stupid either. Will let ye know how it goes

westerlywonder · 24-06-2012 1:02pm

Gillo wrote: »

Just to give an update, I was down there over the weekend and the devils ladder is unbelievable. I hadn't done it in about ten years and only used it as an escape route after one of the group got very sick.
I definitely wouldn't go near it again

If one of the group got very sick, why would you use the most dangerous route as your escape? Surely if you deem it ok for use by a sick person, the route is fine for a fit person looking for a bit of a climb.

I think there is quite a bit of scare mongering going on in this thread.

I did the climb a few weeks ago and this was one of the last things i read before heading up. Thankfully I decided to use my own judgement and go with the devils ladder route, i had planned to turn back if it turned out to be as bad as people were making it out to be.
However, although the last section of the ladder is somewhat challenging I definitely would not advise people against it.
In fact i would say it was the safest route up that day as there was a vicious easterly wind that would have hampered any of the routes that trail via the ridges.

That said, I had a very dry day for climbing and what i would suggest to people is that they would seriously take the weather into account. I imagine the devils ladder can turn into a bit of a waterfall in heavy rain. Plan to go when its fine, and you will be rewarded with an easier climb and fantastic vistas.
( I realise that is easier said than done, considering the shocking amount of rain we have had in the last few weeks.)

Slugs · 07-07-2012 12:54pm

Hey guys, i'll be climbing this with a group tomorrow. Gonna park in Colin's Yard and take the devil's ladder. Scaremongering aside, what sort of state is that route in after the fantastic summer we've had so far?

If I don't get a reply about this today, I'll reply tomorrow evening when I return to give me own details on it

07-07-2012 2:03pm

Ask in Cronins Yard itself, haven't been around there in a while and usually avoid that route. But they'd know the score.

Slugs · 09-07-2012 11:19am

So took the Cronin's Yard route, went up the ladder. Have to say it was absolutely fine. There was a bit of water flowing underfoot, but so long as you take your time and pick your route to avoid rocks that look unstable, you should be perfectly fine. There were plenty of other groups scaling the mountain and any with guides and with a large group didn't risk the ladder and tbh I can't blame them, and would also say that if you're going to take the ladder, make sure your group is small enough. Couldn't see anything up at the top as the mist was so thick, and it was freezing up there, so we didn't stay at the summit too long. I would also say to people, stay on the main path coming down from the summit to the ladder. Especially in poor visibility...

Loved it though, pity there was no view because of the mist but it was quite enjoyable

. Definitely want to redo it when the weather improves

mattser · 09-07-2012 2:20pm

Slugs wrote: »

So took the Cronin's Yard route, went up the ladder. Have to say it was absolutely fine. There was a bit of water flowing underfoot, but so long as you take your time and pick your route to avoid rocks that look unstable, you should be perfectly fine. There were plenty of other groups scaling the mountain and any with guides and with a large group didn't risk the ladder and tbh I can't blame them, and would also say that if you're going to take the ladder, make sure your group is small enough. Couldn't see anything up at the top as the mist was so thick, and it was freezing up there, so we didn't stay at the summit too long. I would also say to people, stay on the main path coming down from the summit to the ladder. Especially in poor visibility...

Loved it though, pity there was no view because of the mist but it was quite enjoyable . Definitely want to redo it when the weather improves

Well done, and thanks for the report. Pity about the weather. The only time I was up there it was the same.

Longboard · 13-07-2012 12:40pm

Went up on Wednesday via cronin's yard. Went via devils ladder. There was a lot of water running down the ladder. Decided not return via the ladder. Intially cloudy from the top of the ladder to the summit. Descended from the summit via brother o'sheas gully. Going up again tomorrow.

Could not imagine doing it without wet weather gear and waterproof boots with summer we are having.

DeSelby83 · 18-07-2012 11:53am

I'm planning on doing this climb at the weekend, weather permitting and was wondering where would I get a map of the routes. Also is there a few different routes or is there a main one that most people do. Is there any markers as to where to follow or is there just a worn path?

18-07-2012 3:26pm

Route via the Devil's Ladder is pretty obvious, follow the route carved by the thousands. The other routes are less easy to spot, particularly routes like the Heavenly Gates. No markers. Get the Harvey's Superwalker map. Would have thought a large bookstore should have it, but not sure.

Longboard · 20-07-2012 3:05pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Get the Harvey's Superwalker map. Would have thought a large bookstore should have it, but not sure.

They sell them at cronin's yard. Could ring ahead to check. Tel: +353 (0)64 662 4044

tippgod · 20-07-2012 10:19pm

climbed up a few times either up the caher route or devils ladder. I personally think the ladders route is faster and easy enough if your active. The caher route can be a long slog but the views are lovely

21-07-2012 8:16am

Longboard wrote: »

They sell them at cronin's yard. Could ring ahead to check. Tel: +353 (0)64 662 4044

True. And for anyone here, if any way unsure, always go into the tearooms at the yard before setting off and they'll dispense advice. It really is an institution.

Mad Benny · 01-08-2012 11:29am

We are planning on climbing this weekend.

We're thinking of the Devil's ladder route. From what I have read this is the most popular. Has anybody been up there over the past week or two?

NathanKingerlee · 03-08-2012 9:28am

I passed over the top of it the other day. It doesn't really change that much year on year. It stays consistently as dangerous/safe as ever. The issue with it is other climbers above you knocking a boulder down onto your party.

If you are tackling it as a small party, on a quiet day, with only a few other walkers on the mountain; then chances are it will be grand.

If you are tackling it as a large party, or on a summer's weekend with a constant stream of walkers ascending and descending, then you are putting yourself into a little bit of danger...

Problem is; with all the other routes you need map and compass skills and ideally someone in your party needs to have been on the route beforehand.

Jimmy Bottles · 10-08-2012 12:27pm

Done most the routes up Carrauntohill at this stage.

Just wonder but could someone show me the Heavenly Gates route.

From this map, I'm guessing that the blue route is Howling Ridge which involves a lot of rock climbing and ropes.

Am I right in thinking that Heavenly Gates is basically the blue line up until kink on the face of Carrauntohill, from then on you go across the face of the mountain going past where it says Leaca Bhán on the map ? From there it's just the remaining normal climb from the ladder upwards ?

Roen · 10-08-2012 4:24pm

Jimmy Bottles wrote: »

Done most the routes up Carrauntohill at this stage.

Just wonder but could someone show me the Heavenly Gates route.

From this map, I'm guessing that the blue route is Howling Ridge which involves a lot of rock climbing and ropes.

Am I right in thinking that Heavenly Gates is basically the blue line up until kink on the face of Carrauntohill, from then on you go across the face of the mountain going past where it says Leaca Bhán on the map ? From there it's just the remaining normal climb from the ladder upwards ?

This flash map should help.

http://wiki.climbing.ie/index.php/Winter_Climbing_around_Carrauntoohil

angland27 · 10-08-2012 5:09pm

Im going to be around the gap of dunloe and am wondering where would be a good place near the road to set up a bottom rope for my twin 7 year olds. Any helo would be great.

11-08-2012 12:13am

Jimmy Bottles wrote: »

Am I right in thinking that Heavenly Gates is basically the blue line up until kink on the face of Carrauntohill, from then on you go across the face of the mountain going past where it says Leaca Bhán on the map ? From there it's just the remaining normal climb from the ladder upwards ?

That's it alright.

DaveClint · 15-08-2012 5:24am

I would highly recommend the Coomloughra horseshoe to anyone, provided you have a head for heights. Here's a link to a very good article. You get the three highest peaks in Ireland on this route too.
http://walkingworldireland.com/wp/?p=845

15-08-2012 9:51am

DaveClint wrote: »

I would highly recommend the Coomloughra horseshoe to anyone, provided you have a head for heights. Here's a link to a very good article. You get the three highest peaks in Ireland on this route too.
http://walkingworldireland.com/wp/?p=845

Is there some access issue on the concrete road in recent weeks?

fatb0y · 05-09-2012 4:13pm

Jimmy Bottles wrote: »

Done most the routes up Carrauntohill at this stage.

Just wonder but could someone show me the Heavenly Gates route.

From this map, I'm guessing that the blue route is Howling Ridge which involves a lot of rock climbing and ropes.

Am I right in thinking that Heavenly Gates is basically the blue line up until kink on the face of Carrauntohill, from then on you go across the face of the mountain going past where it says Leaca Bhán on the map ? From there it's just the remaining normal climb from the ladder upwards ?

Wish I had seen this before going up to the summit last weekend! Used the Devil's ladder to go up and back, like someone else said in their post, it is a bit dodgy but if you take your time and watch your step, it's actually good fun as just walking on a slope can get monotonous after a while!

Took about 4 and a half hours there and back and the views were stunning!

There were a few folks talking about heavenly gates at the summit and had we been able to figure it out, would have used it for coming back down... with this map, will just have to do it again :-)

concussion · 05-09-2012 6:26pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Is there some access issue on the concrete road in recent weeks?

There's a brand new carpark in at the bottom, maybe the end of the Hydro road was blocked for the construction. The car park and the Hydro were both open two weekends ago.

06-09-2012 8:45am

concussion wrote: »

There's a brand new carpark in at the bottom, maybe the end of the Hydro road was blocked for the construction. The car park and the Hydro were both open two weekends ago.

I think it was since the carpark was constructed that the dispute arose.

CaptainSkidmark · 03-07-2013 6:50pm

lads did the galtees last weekend and gonna chance this one this weekend.

can anyone recommend the safest way up route? and how long the round trip would be

cheers!

RamblingRuairi · 04-07-2013 2:27pm

CaptainSkidmark wrote: »

lads did the galtees last weekend and gonna chance this one this weekend.

can anyone recommend the safest way up route? and how long the round trip would be

cheers!

#

The safest route these days imo is Shea's Gully and down the ZigZags but be aware that there are rod closures around Killarney this Sat.

Mission Road, Killarney

Road Closed: N71
(Road Closing Times: from 5.00am to 9.00am and 1.00pm to 8.00pm)

Starting at Kenmare Place and finishing at the junction of the N71, Mission Road and the R877, New Street.

Beech Road, Killarney

Road Closed: L3909
(Road Closing Times: from 5.00am to 9.00am and 1.00pm to 8.00pm)

Starting at the junction of the L3909, Beech Road and the R877, New Street and finishing at the junction of the L3909, Beech Road and the N71, Mission Road.

Fossa to Killorglin

Road Closed: N72
(Road Closing Times: from 6.00am to 9.00am)

Starting from the junction of the N72 and the R563, Milltown Road at Fossa via Ballymalis and Anglont and finishing at the junction of the N72 and N70 at Laune Bridge, Killorglin.

(Traffic diversions will be in place via the R563 through Faha and Listry and the N70 from Milltown to Killorglin.)

Killorglin to Caragh Bridge (Eastbound Lane)

Road Closed: N70 (Eastbound Lane)
(Road Closing Times: from 6.00am to 12 noon)

Starting at the Iveragh Road Roundabout via Iveragh Road, Tullig, Quaybaun and finishing at Caragh Bridge.

(A one-way traffic diversion will be in place for traffic travelling eastbound from Caherciveen and Glenbeigh on the L4022/L4033/L4034 Local Primary routes via Dooks, Cromane, Garraun and Castleconway. Traffic travelling westbound from Killorglin to Glenbeigh will remain on the N70)

Sneem to Molls Gap

Road Closed: R568
(Road Closing Times: from 12 noon to 8.00pm)

Starting at the junction of the R568 and the L4074 at Derreendarragh Cross and finishing at the junction of the R568 and the N71 at Molls Gap.

Kenmare to Torc

Road Closed: N71
(Road Closing Times: from 12 noon to 8.00pm)

Starting at the junction of the N70 and N71 at Gortamullin via Molls Gap and Galway’s Bridge and finishing at Torc Waterfall Car Park.

(Motorists travelling between Killarney and Kenmare at the above times are advised to use the alternative N22/R569 route via Glenflesk and Kilgarvan).

The Dagda · 04-07-2013 3:45pm

CaptainSkidmark wrote: »

lads did the galtees last weekend and gonna chance this one this weekend.

can anyone recommend the safest way up route? and how long the round trip would be

cheers!

The Coomloughra Loop is, in my opinion, the best way to experience Carrantouhill. It's a less popular route, so quieter, and I think the vast amphitheater that greets you as you head up from Lough Eighter, past Coomloughra Lough, towards Skregmore is an amazing place.

If you complete the loop you'll have bagged the 3 highest Irish mountains too.

The route is described here;

http://www.kerrymountainrescue.ie/routes/caher.html

Many places mention the Beenkeragh Ridge as being a dangerous place, but it really isn't anything to worry about, if the weather is reasonable.

BriangC · 05-07-2013 10:05am

CaptainSkidmark wrote: »

lads did the galtees last weekend and gonna chance this one this weekend.

can anyone recommend the safest way up route? and how long the round trip would be

cheers!

Its a bit longer but going up the Bone and down the zig zags is one of the safest routes imo http://www.activeme.ie/guides/walks/carrauntoohil-via-zig-zag-and-the-bone/ and is interesting too compared to the Devils ladders, etc. Its not as popular as the other routes so the path up the bone is not well worn but is easy enough to follow to the top

I agree with Dagda, you can't beat the Coomloughra Loop on a good day http://www.activeme.ie/guides/walks/the-coomloughra-loop-walk-carrauntoohil-kerry/ but yes a little care is advised near Beenkeragh, common sense really (i.e. not in high winds, etc).

Up O'Sheas Gully and down zig zags as mentioned by RamblingRuairi is one of my favourites, a great and safe route and is becoming one of the most popular routes on the reeks now and a good starter route. http://www.activeme.ie/guides/walks/carrauntoohil-via-osheas-gully-and-zig-zags-kerry/ however we got stuck behind a large and slow guided group waiting to get to whats known as the 'first level'

The I'm doing the Ring of Kerry cycle on Saturday and yes there will be a few delays and diversions around Killarney but nothing major I hope near the reeks. Note, the Road from Molls Gap to Killarney will be closed to traffic during the day

RamblingRuairi · 08-07-2013 10:39am

To add to this, I would avoid the Devil's Ladder as it is dangerous. Due to time pressure, I had to come down the Ladder on Sat instead of the ZigZags and it is very exposed with a lot of loose rock. There are plenty of other routes that are a lot safer.

UDP · 09-07-2013 8:04pm

The devils ladder is fine for going up though.

Carrantuohill easiest/safest route

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