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Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

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  • #2
    ShamoBuc
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,185 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    That last thread had no luck at all, hoping for better things from this one.


  • #3
    passatman86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭passatman86


    We are champions league
    We are champions league


  • #4
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,412 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


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  • #5
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,412 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    giphy.gif


  • #6
    Charlie19
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,787 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    6th.


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  • #7
    Charlie19
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,787 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    Little bit of magic from Wijnaldum in training.

    https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1391106932740603906?s=19


  • #8
    Plasandrunt
    Registered Users Posts: 858 ✭✭✭Plasandrunt


    https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/79986234#/

    Look at the description of this house hahaha


  • #9
    happyoutscan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    Someone mentioned in the last thread selling Firmino for 50m next year.

    Bit steep no?

    I'd have no problem letting Bobby seek a new venture, but no way is he worth 50m post-Covid.


  • #10
    KevRossi
    Registered Users Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    Bobby may have found a role like last night. Effectively play Mo, Sadio and Jota as our front 3, use Bobby as an impact sub for last 15-25 mins.


  • #11
    machiavellianme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,656 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    happyoutscan wrote: »
    Someone mentioned in the last thread selling Firmino for 50m next year.

    Bit steep no?

    I'd have no problem letting Bobby seek a new venture, but no way is he worth 50m post-Covid.

    That's a small m, denoting milli. Yes that's about right. He is worth €0.050.


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  • #12
    KevRossi
    Registered Users Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    Nice one Everton. CL qualification is almost back in our hands now.

    Most other teams have done us some kind of favour (several really) over the past few weeks, so no excuses if we don't get 12/12 points.


  • #13
    fyfe79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭fyfe79


    KevRossi wrote: »
    Nice one Everton. CL qualification is almost back in our hands now.

    Most other teams have done us some kind of favour (several really) over the past few weeks, so no excuses if we don't get 12/12 points.

    Yep, we need to win our 4 games and hope that Leicester lose one of theirs (then it'll come down to GD which is very close atm), or better yet, hope that they draw two of their games... then we'll pip them by a point.


  • #14
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,354 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    fyfe79 wrote: »
    Yep, we need to win our 4 games and hope that Leicester lose one of theirs (then it'll come down to GD which is very close atm), or better yet, hope that they draw two of their games... then we'll pip them by a point.

    Leicester have to play Chelsea, Spurs and United. Good chance they don't win all those but Liverpool have to win their four games.

    A draw with United would have been ok if we had held on in the Newcastle and Leeds games.


  • #15
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,412 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Those two late conceded goals, or the 6 home defeats happened for a reason, the reason is to look back at them and wonder what if.
    4th is possible now, but doesn't seem like it's our faith to get it.


  • #16
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,886 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    To have any chance of getting a top 4 place we need a minimum of 10 points from the last 4 games.


  • #17
    Damien360
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭Damien360


    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    To have any chance of getting a top 4 place we need a minimum of 10 points from the last 4 games.

    Last year or year before I would have believed it was possible but considering the quality of play this year, I honestly can’t see us doing it. I do think Leicester will drop a load of points but we won’t catch them.


  • #18
    brevity
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,587 ✭✭✭brevity


    Utd will lose to Leicester and beat us. And that will be that.

    ****e season.


  • #19
    martyos121
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,476 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    We’ve gone to Old Trafford in recent seasons as a much better team and never got more than a point. This time they’re genuinely better than us at the minute and some are already talking about winning all of our remaining games? We have a very, very slim chance of beating United on Thursday IMO.

    I’d settle for a draw from that fixture right now if offered and take our chances with the remaining games hoping that Leicester bottle it again.


  • #20
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,886 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    brevity wrote: »
    Utd will lose to Leicester and beat us. And that will be that.

    ****e season.

    I wonder will Man U put out a full strength team against Leicester considering they still can mathematically win the title or will they throw in the towel in the league play the kids and just worry about beating us on Thursday.


  • #21
    Girly Gal
    Registered Users Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    To have any chance of getting a top 4 place we need a minimum of 10 points from the last 4 games.

    10 points might be enough to finish level on points with both West Ham and Leicester and it could come down to goal difference which Leicester shade at the moment, but, if we draw level with Leicester, our GD will probably end up better than theirs, need United and Chelsea to do us favours, but, will we do our bit and get those 10 points. We can't really complain if we don't get top 4 as other teams have done us huge favours over the last few weeks and we have failed to take full advantage. Obviously need to not lose against United which I wouldn't be at confident about.


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  • #22
    machiavellianme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,656 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    I wonder will Man U put out a full strength team against Leicester considering they still can mathematically win the title or will they throw in the towel in the league play the kids and just worry about beating us on Thursday.

    No need to wonder, you know the answer to that question.


  • #23
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,412 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    For all City's dominance this season they only have 80pts and are still trying to win the league with 3 games to go. The reality is they've have a piss poor season in the league very similar to the one they had last season. They only thing they can do now is get 8 more points than their total last season.
    As for CL League, they got weakest group in the history of the CL, weakest last 16 draw, weakest 1/4 draw and played a not too clever psg.

    Next season we just need a full squad, not a lot to ask really.


  • #24
    Agent Coulson
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    I wouldn't mind seeing a bid put in for Pereira now the West Brom are down.

    Could be an ideal squad player.


  • #25
    brevity
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,587 ✭✭✭brevity


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    For all City's dominance this season they only have 80pts and are still trying to win the league with 3 games to go. The reality is they've have a piss poor season in the league very similar to the one they had last season. They only thing they can do now is get 8 more points than their total last season.
    As for CL League, they got weakest group in the history of the CL, weakest last 16 draw, weakest 1/4 draw and played a not too clever psg.

    Next season we just need a full squad, not a lot to ask really.

    Will be interesting to see how Chelsea and Utd perform next season.

    For all the laughing at Ole that goes on, he's got them to a final and he has them playing with confidence. Cavani has been great for them.


  • #26
    noodler
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    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    For all City's dominance this season they only have 80pts and are still trying to win the league with 3 games to go. The reality is they've have a piss poor season in the league very similar to the one they had last season. They only thing they can do now is get 8 more points than their total last season.
    As for CL League, they got weakest group in the history of the CL, weakest last 16 draw, weakest 1/4 draw and played a not too clever psg.

    Next season we just need a full squad, not a lot to ask really.

    No.

    The idea that 80 points, potentially rising to 89, is a poor league is baffling.

    You'd have to be comparing it to 100 points season to get that conclusion and that's a nuts comparison.


  • #27
    Girly Gal
    Registered Users Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    For all City's dominance this season they only have 80pts and are still trying to win the league with 3 games to go. The reality is they've have a piss poor season in the league very similar to the one they had last season. They only thing they can do now is get 8 more points than their total last season.
    As for CL League, they got weakest group in the history of the CL, weakest last 16 draw, weakest 1/4 draw and played a not too clever psg.

    Next season we just need a full squad, not a lot to ask really.

    They're going to win 2 possibly 3 trophies this season, how can you possibly say it's a bad season, they had an absolutely awful start to the league, so even getting close to 80 points is a brilliant achievement. Even last season when they had a poor season they still got 82 points. Just because we've had a **** season doesn't mean we can downgrade the achievements of other clubs that have had good seasons. Regarding next season I don't see us challenging City for the title.


  • #28
    BorneTobyWilde
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    noodler wrote: »
    No.

    The idea that 80 points, potentially rising to 89, is a poor league is baffling.

    You'd have to be comparing it to 100 points season to get that conclusion and that's a nuts comparison.


    City have lost 18 league games in the last 3 seasons. They're not all that.


  • #29
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,412 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Girly Gal wrote: »
    They're going to win 2 possibly 3 trophies this season, how can you possibly say it's a bad season, they had an absolutely awful start to the league, so even getting close to 80 points is a brilliant achievement. Even last season when they had a poor season they still got 82 points. Just because we've had a **** season doesn't mean we can downgrade the achievements of other clubs that have had good seasons. Regarding next season I don't see us challenging City for the title.


    My point is we've had a 1/2 a squad this season, everyone out for season, or in and out every few games. I expect we'll walk the league next season with a full squad.


  • #30
    celt262
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,560 ✭✭✭celt262


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    My point is we've had a 1/2 a squad this season, everyone out for season, or in and out every few games. I expect we'll walk the league next season with a full squad.

    Quoted for reference this time next year.


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  • #31
    noodler
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    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    City have lost 18 league games in the last 3 seasons. They're not all that.

    What on earth has that got to do with your argument that 80+ points is a bad season?

    Also, they are all that.

    Clearly.


  • #32
    Girly Gal
    Registered Users Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    My point is we've had a 1/2 a squad this season, everyone out for season, or in and out every few games. I expect we'll walk the league next season with a full squad.

    City and Chelsea will battle it out for the league title next season with ourselves and United fighting it out for third. We will certainly not walk the league


  • #33
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,412 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    noodler wrote: »
    What on earth has that got to do with your argument that 80+ points is a bad season?

    Also, they are all that.

    Clearly.


    Its only bad in regard to the fact we're not first in table with 93pts


  • #34
    ~Rebel~
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,988 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Girly Gal wrote: »
    City and Chelsea will battle it out for the league title next season with ourselves and United fighting it out for third. We will certainly not walk the league

    Yeah, think you’re right. Hard to look past that top 4 (assuming we can regain some form), and could see a 10 point gap between City and Chelsea, and the rest below.


  • #35
    cj maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,551 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Girly Gal wrote: »
    City and Chelsea will battle it out for the league title next season with ourselves and United fighting it out for third. We will certainly not walk the league

    I see it more as ourselves and city battling for the title and chelsea in 3rd


  • #36
    ~Rebel~
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,988 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    cj maxx wrote: »
    I see it more as ourselves and city battling for the title and chelsea in 3rd

    With their transfer ban and failed Frank experiment behind them, Chelsea look firmly back to the title challenging version of the past decade. The upturn in their form since Tuchel came in is a bit frightening. From top 4 long shots, they’ve all but nailed down 3rd, along with reaching the finals in both competitions they remained in, beating City twice along the way. With a transfer window to work with, and more cash available than us, it’s hard not to see them being in a fantastic position for next year. Best we can hope for is a 3 horse race if we can up our game enough to compete with those two.


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  • #37
    Zak Flaps
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    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    My point is we've had a 1/2 a squad this season, everyone out for season, or in and out every few games. I expect we'll walk the league next season with a full squad.

    That's nonsense. Just seems like you're looking for a reaction.
    I think we'll get top 4 but I can see it being a Chelsea / Man City race.


  • #38
    Bobeagleburger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,735 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    Girly Gal wrote: »
    City and Chelsea will battle it out for the league title next season with ourselves and United fighting it out for third. We will certainly not walk the league


    This is the negative perspective. Toby's was hyper optimistic.

    Let's see. I've heard Chelsea will battle for the league for a couple of years now.

    No idea how people can predict next season with 'certainty'.
    .


  • #39
    ben.schlomo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,266 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    6 wrote: »
    This is the negative perspective. Toby's was hyper optimistic.

    Let's see. I've heard Chelsea will battle for the league for a couple of years now.

    No idea how people can predict next season with 'certainty'.
    .

    Big difference with Chelsea is that they have form over an extended period and a top class manager now. He'll be able get a couple of his players in also which will improve them further.


  • #40
    Bobeagleburger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,735 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    ben.schlomo wrote: »
    Big difference with Chelsea is that they have form over an extended period and a top class manager now. He'll be able get a couple of his players in also which will improve them further.

    They have improved incredibly, that's without question. Can that be translated into a title challenge? We'll see soon enough.

    He could have a bad league start and get fired. Chelsea are a strange club that way.


  • #41
    cj maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,551 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    With their transfer ban and failed Frank experiment behind them, Chelsea look firmly back to the title challenging version of the past decade. The upturn in their form since Tuchel came in is a bit frightening. From top 4 long shots, they’ve all but nailed down 3rd, along with reaching the finals in both competitions they remained in, beating City twice along the way. With a transfer window to work with, and more cash available than us, it’s hard not to see them being in a fantastic position for next year. Best we can hope for is a 3 horse race if we can up our game enough to compete with those two.

    True :(
    3 way battle , if things go well, is the best we can hope for


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  • #42
    ben.schlomo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,266 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    6 wrote: »
    They have improved incredibly, that's without question. Can that be translated into a title challenge? We'll see soon enough.

    He could have a bad league start and get fired. Chelsea are a strange club that way.

    Over the last 15 league games there two points between them and City. I'd be shocked if they don't win the cup against Leicester and they've a chance in the CL v City. That's a lot of credit in his bank. There's no way they aren't challenging next season.

    We really need to make a couple of key signings this summer to ensure we are in the mix next season.


  • #43
    Blanco100
    Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Blanco100


    6 wrote: »
    This is the negative perspective. Toby's was hyper optimistic.

    Let's see. I've heard Chelsea will battle for the league for a couple of years now.

    No idea how people can predict next season with 'certainty'.
    .

    Enough fans seem to think it's certain the return of VVD, Gomez and Hendo will lead to us dominating again.

    Which is even more of a stretch


  • #44
    Ottoman_1000
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    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    My point is we've had a 1/2 a squad this season, everyone out for season, or in and out every few games. I expect we'll walk the league next season with a full squad.

    You can't be serious with that statement? we may put up a challenge alright but there is no chance in hell we are walking the PL next year...a few people have a bit of blind faith that all our problems will be magically fixed with the return of VVD and Gomez. We did concede 7 against Villa with both of them there, our current problems cut far deeper than our missing centre backs!

    If the money doesn't come this summer for some serious squad reinforcement we will be fighting for top 4 again because Tuchel is going to get a serious wedge this summer as its his 1st a Chelsea manager and he will be adding to an already top class squad. Man City have a ridiculous team and squad as it is that will be now getting a serious boost from a big money Aguero replacement. And for all the laughing we do at Ole he actually has UTD heading in some sort of direction. There're on target for 80+ finish now this year that he will be striving to build on that next season.


  • #45
    noodler
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    Blanco100 wrote: »
    Enough fans seem to think it's certain the return of VVD, Gomez and Hendo will lead to us dominating again.

    Which is even more of a stretch

    Not dominating but I can see a marked improvement with the above three, Thiago, Matip and Fab being fit for a whole season.


  • #46
    Bobeagleburger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,735 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    Blanco100 wrote: »
    Enough fans seem to think it's certain the return of VVD, Gomez and Hendo will lead to us dominating again.

    Which is even more of a stretch

    No they don't. This is a massive exaggeration.

    Where are these fans, as I don't know anyone saying that?


  • #47
    Shanotheslayer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    City have lost 18 league games in the last 3 seasons. They're not all that.

    How many games do you expect a team to lose each season they win the league? That's an average of 6 games a season.


  • #48
    Ottoman_1000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,788 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    6 wrote: »
    No they don't. This is a massive exaggeration.

    Where are these fans, as I don't know anyone saying that?

    if you just flick back 2 pages you will see one fan in here who thinks we will walk it with those players back. Work colleague of mine has similar believes also....there is many of them out there alright.


  • #49
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,886 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Originally Posted by ~Rebel~

    Crazily enough, looking at other centre forward options, Pat Bamford might actually not be a bad one. 14 goals and 10 assists this season so far! Only one of those goals was a pen too. Some going in fairness... works like a dog too, and links play together pretty well. Only one year left on his contract after this season, so might be some value there.


    Ornstein reporting today that Liverpool admire Bamford and are one of a few clubs looking at him.


  • #50
    Bobeagleburger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,735 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    Ottoman_1000 wrote: »
    if you just flick back 2 pages you will see one fan in here who thinks we will walk it with those players back. Work colleague of mine has similar believes also....there is many of them out there alright.

    One person on a website is proof? Let's face it Toby does come out with extreme statements!

    Hardly anyone realistically believes it. It doesn't even make sense imo.


  • #51
    Ottoman_1000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,788 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    6 wrote: »
    One person on a website is proof? Let's face it Toby does come out with extreme statements!

    Hardly anyone realistically believes it. It doesn't even make sense imo.

    I never said it made sense but I was just merely pointing out to you that these fans exists when you questioned it. The guy I work with is blindly convinced about the return of VVD solving all issues and almost fell out with me one day when I questioned him over it, I don't even bring the games up with him anymore....


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