The U.K. Brexit Election

_Brian · 13-12-2019 7:05am #1

Watching Sky News there.

Incredible result.

Brexit Party no seats.
Labour terrible show.

The public getting behind Borris

Did Corbin surround himself with yes men so preventing him from knowing actually how unpopular he really is as an individual.

DukeCaboom · 13-12-2019 7:37am

Has to be a second indy ref in Scotland now you'd imagine.

Wanderer78 · 13-12-2019 7:38am

DukeCaboom wrote:

Has to be a second indy ref in Scotland now you'd imagine.

I'd say the uk is done to be honest

contrary_devil · 13-12-2019 7:46am

Arlene won't be so cocky for a while now that Boris won't be courting her.

_Brian · 13-12-2019 8:03am

contrary_devil wrote: »

Arlene won't be so cocky for a while now that Boris won't be courting her.

Plus there’s a chance it will be 9 republican seats to 8 unionists seats. Be interesting to see how she tries to make that into a success story for unionism.

B-D-P-- · 13-12-2019 8:39am

For those who voted Borris back in

memorystick · 13-12-2019 9:37am

100 years on from the War of Independence, this could be the last and final push.

_Brian · 13-12-2019 10:02am

One Green Party MP.
Not much of a green wave going on over in the U.K.

davidk1394 · 13-12-2019 10:22am

What are people's thoughts on the impact on agriculture? Will it see a reduction in prices or exports to the UK ?

Capercaillie · 13-12-2019 10:31am

_Brian wrote: »

One Green Party MP.
Not much of a green wave going on over in the U.K.

When the system is not proportional representation small parties like the Greens likely to get feck all seats, while at same % of vote they will get more seats in Ireland.

patsy_mccabe · 13-12-2019 10:39am

davidk1394 wrote: »

What are people's thoughts on the impact on agriculture? Will it see a reduction in prices or exports to the UK ?

Sterling is up anyway. That has to be good for Beef prices here.

flexcon · 13-12-2019 11:04am

Labour - Pushed even harder left

Conservative - Pushed even harder right

Centre had no-one. Common sense had nowhere.

foundation10 · 13-12-2019 11:09am

flexcon wrote: »

Labour - Pushed even harder left

Conservative - Pushed even harder right

Centre had no-one. Common sense had nowhere.

Agree, if labour had pulled in to centre more it wouldn't have been such a calamity for them.

_Brian · 13-12-2019 11:17am

foundation10 wrote: »

Agree, if labour had pulled in to centre more it wouldn't have been such a calamity for them.

Corbin is toxic, people seem unable to vote for him, his ideals are just too far out.

148multi · 13-12-2019 11:29am

davidk1394 wrote: »

What are people's thoughts on the impact on agriculture? Will it see a reduction in prices or exports to the UK ?

Most tories interviewed this morning are talking up a deal, particularly with ireland, even accepting this may cause Borris some difficulty.

Regards the potical situation in the UK, the parties that took a centre position got slaughtered, peoples views hardened.
Look at what happened in NI since the good Friday aggreament. The UUP and the SDLP lost seats and the more hard line parties gained support. If, and a big if Labour and the Lib-Dems hadn't muppets as leaders it could have been a very different vote. Right now I look favourably on this Uk and government from the feelers being sent out today.

grassroot1 · 13-12-2019 12:17pm

Really amazing a leader who lied,dodged leaders debates,made gaff after gaff got elected. Matt Hancock made to look like an idiot over the 20k extra police and they got a landslide?
Corbyn was unelectable too far left for most.Diane Abbott was brought out to speak on the economy and could not get simple maths right.
Sammy Wilson on RTE last night WTF world of his own.
It will not be good for us in the farming community but what can we do, not our rodeo.

Say my name · 13-12-2019 12:22pm

Well one thing I learned from yesterday is don't believe a word typed on social media.
If Twitter was to be believed yesterday, Labour would have had a party majority with all these new young voters queuing on the street to vote. Even Boris Johnson had his seat lost and celebrities and all their hangers on had Labour in.

patsy_mccabe · 13-12-2019 12:38pm

Boris Johnson pulled off a master stroke. He made this election all about Brexit. People that had never voted for the Conservatives did so this time, simply to push ahead with Brexit.
Nationilists now have a majority in the North. Interesting times ahead.

Injuryprone · 13-12-2019 1:05pm

Looks to me that there was a whole load of voters looking for a new home because of the Brexit situation.

But while Boris managed to convince leavers to back him this time, Corbyn's big jump to the left nationizing everything scared off remainers from voting for him.

Big pressure on Boris now imo to back up his promises. For the last decade it's been convenient for them not to have had a majority. They had someone else to blame for their failures. For the next 5 years, all negative stories will land squarely at the door of no.10. People in poor areas of the north who are disgusted with their standard of living put their faith in Boris to improve their lot with the completion of Brexit. If they don't see a material change in their standard of living over the next 5 years, then the next election could be big losses for the Tories. I suppose he'll still be able to blame the EU though.

toleratethis · 13-12-2019 1:26pm

Labour were never going to do anything besides lose the election. Corbyn is unelectable regardless of his policies. Had labour a decent leader they'd have wiped the Torys last time nevermind this election. Corbyn, and his enablers, were the biggest gift Boris ever got.

Timmaay · 13-12-2019 1:43pm

It's the same reason why trump got elected in the USA also, his opposition in Hillary nobody wanted. The sooner Labour get rid of Corban and find someone more central the better.

tanko · 13-12-2019 1:57pm

Almost three million more people voted for Clinton than Trump.

patsy_mccabe · 13-12-2019 10:02pm

God, this result is a right kick in the teeth for the left ideologists. Jeremy Corbyn's manifesto reads like something from Karl Marx.

Bass Reeves · 13-12-2019 10:07pm

I could never see anything but a Conservative victory. It was assured when Farage's Brexit candidates withdrew from the race and gave Borris a clear run at it. Most forget that Corbyn is a Brexiteer as well but was unable to clarify any policy position and neither remainers or brexiteers could or would trust him. His refusal to consider tactical candidate withdrawal with Libs and other parties ended any hope of a remain victory. As well he refused in the last parliment to consider letting another MP be PM until a deal could be done.

K.G. · 14-12-2019 2:51pm

Ya got hand it to boris.the whole brexit thing was set in motion to get him where he is today.people who dismiss the likes of boris and trump haven't a clue about modern politics. Dont waste your time trying convince people to vote for you ,just make sure the people that will vote for you do.similar tactics in irish politics and lately we see the tactics being used in agri politics

blue5000 · 14-12-2019 3:14pm

Judging by Callan's kicks last night we'll probably have our own election next Spring. The exit polls are so accurate maybe that's the way to have an election:rolleyes:

Buford T. Justice XIX · 15-12-2019 4:52pm

A bit about what the next year will bring in GB as regards Ag policy and negotiations for Brexit.
http://capreform.eu/implications-of-the-uk-election-result-for-eu-uk-agricultural-trade/

Lano Lynn · 15-12-2019 9:34pm

one of the lib dems manifesto 'ideas' was a 'frequent flying tax' seems to have gone down like a lead balloon, and reinforces my doubt that 'the consumer' wants to take any responsibility for reversing climate change.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 15-12-2019 9:58pm

Lano Lynn wrote: »

one of the lib dems manifesto 'ideas' was a 'frequent flying tax' seems to have gone down like a lead balloon, and reinforces my doubt that 'the consumer' wants to take any responsibility for reversing climate change.

There's been a huge change in the reporting of Agriculture in the climate change debates in the last 6 months. I'll throw up a link to a Washington Post article on the ability of Agriculture to be a huge factor in mitigating emissions from other sectors.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2015/12/04/fe22879e-990b-11e5-8917-653b65c809eb_story.html
That wouldn't have made a regional paper last year but is printed in a national broadsheet. They'll be paying us to build soils in the near future.

wrangler · 15-12-2019 11:10pm

Lano Lynn wrote: »

one of the lib dems manifesto 'ideas' was a 'frequent flying tax' seems to have gone down like a lead balloon, and reinforces my doubt that 'the consumer' wants to take any responsibility for reversing climate change.

Yes, one of the main reasons I don't take climate change serious...... no point

Lano Lynn · 16-12-2019 9:18pm

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

There's been a huge change in the reporting of Agriculture in the climate change debates in the last 6 months. I'll throw up a link to a Washington Post article on the ability of Agriculture to be a huge factor in mitigating emissions from other sectors.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2015/12/04/fe22879e-990b-11e5-8917-653b65c809eb_story.html
That wouldn't have made a regional paper last year but is printed in a national broadsheet. They'll be paying us to build soils in the near future.

they should be paying us now for food and they don't we will be regulated out of existence and the natural rewilding will take care of the rest.so why bother paying for it?

_Brian · 16-12-2019 9:44pm

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

There's been a huge change in the reporting of Agriculture in the climate change debates in the last 6 months. I'll throw up a link to a Washington Post article on the ability of Agriculture to be a huge factor in mitigating emissions from other sectors.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2015/12/04/fe22879e-990b-11e5-8917-653b65c809eb_story.html
That wouldn't have made a regional paper last year but is printed in a national broadsheet. They'll be paying us to build soils in the near future.

Aren’t OZ already paying farmers for it.

The drive against ag on climate was driven by paid for vegan “science” to add an arrrow to their attack on farming.

But the truth that we already know will surely become known. That non industrial farming is a positive both on animals, biodiversity and climate.

The U.K. Brexit Election

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