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profits on stock market

  • 08-12-2019 11:15am
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    Registered Users Posts: 325 ✭✭


    i assume cgt is charged on stock market profits
    are they charged on the amount of profit shown when funds are withdrawn, or do i have to inform the tax authority of my profits (on paper) each time i write a tax return
    i assume if i lose money on the stock market said loses can be calculated against profits i make on other business ventures


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    beaufoy wrote: »
    i assume cgt is charged on stock market profits
    are they charged on the amount of profit shown when funds are withdrawn, or do i have to inform the tax authority of my profits (on paper) each time i write a tax return
    i assume if i lose money on the stock market said loses can be calculated against profits i make on other business ventures

    Bit of reading in order.

    https://www.revenue.ie/en/gains-gifts-and-inheritance/transfering-an-asset/how-to-calculate-cgt.aspx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,566 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    CGT is ring fenced to CGT gains and losses and not transferable to other tax heads.
    Do you hold the shares in your own name or are they managed for you.
    .
    Gains and losses generally only arise when there's is a disposal.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 325 ✭✭beaufoy


    i hold etf's and standard shares in a degiro account in my own name. If i sell one share and keep the money in the degiro account to buy another share i assume that is not counted as a disposal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭daheff


    beaufoy wrote: »
    i hold etf's and standard shares in a degiro account in my own name. If i sell one share and keep the money in the degiro account to buy another share i assume that is not counted as a disposal

    Yes it is counted as a disposal.

    Also as you have etfs, be aware of the 8 year deemed disposal rule and that etfs are not taxed like normal shares unless they are under a specific UCITS type.


  • Registered Users Posts: 325 ✭✭beaufoy


    daheff wrote: »
    Yes it is counted as a disposal.

    Also as you have etfs, be aware of the 8 year deemed disposal rule and that etfs are not taxed like normal shares unless they are under a specific UCITS type.

    thanks for info.The tax on shares sold to buy other shares seems to discourage short term trades
    The shares i have sold showed a large profit therefore it would seem logical to sell some of the shares which made a loss in order to reduce my 2019 tax liability
    Does the tax year for CGT run jan 1-dec 31 same as income tax. Is there an extra tax free allowance for CGT


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,566 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    1,270 euro personal reduction in the taxable gain. NOT from the TAX PAYABLE
    For normal shares, ie not in the etfs etc, losses on disposal can be carried forward, and must be used before the 1,270 gets taken off

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