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Bad insomnia

  • 06-12-2019 8:49pm
    #1
    80j2lc5y7u6qs9
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    Has anyone got bad insomnia. i have not slept any nigh this week. Last few months patchy. two night awake one night sleep. What cure it?


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  • #2
    horseofstone
    Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭horseofstone


    Mylah Purple Finger wrote: »
    Has anyone got bad insomnia. i have not slept any nigh this week. Last few months patchy. two night awake one night sleep. What cure it?

    Are u worrying a lot ? Do u experience racing thoughts whilst trying to sleep ?


  • #3
    80j2lc5y7u6qs9
    Closed Accounts Posts: 957 ✭✭✭80j2lc5y7u6qs9


    horseofstone wrote: »
    Are u worrying a lot ? Do u experience racing thoughts whilst trying to sleep ?
    no racing thoughts just cannot switch off. I do have depression though and do not like this time of year. but my sleep is bad for months


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    Spanish Eyes
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    I don't know if I am allowed to say this, but I recommend Piriton anti histamine, the tabs that actually cause drowsiness. Sold over the counter. Not addictive at all, so if you are desperate they will certainly help the ZZZZs.


  • #5
    80j2lc5y7u6qs9
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    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    I don't know if I am allowed to say this, but I recommend Piriton anti histamine, the tabs that actually cause drowsiness. Sold over the counter. Not addictive at all, so if you are desperate they will certainly help the ZZZZs.
    do they make you feel groggy dopey


  • #6
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,002 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Mylah Purple Finger wrote: »
    do they make you feel groggy dopey

    I only used them after my mother passed away and I could not close my eyes for days. Took half a tab and was a little tired next morning, but a nice cup of coffee sorted me out. TBH I was delighted that I slept through. Take them early on latest 9-10pm or so. You will get used to it.

    I must emphasise that they are NOT addictive, and are sold over the counter.


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  • #7
    80j2lc5y7u6qs9
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    anyone else got ideas?


  • #8
    uchimata83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭uchimata83


    Don't take anti histamine's if you don't have to.

    As a fellow insomniac, I always sleep better after exercise. Drain the battery and it charges easier. Of course, that's a lot harder than taking a pill, but at least you know it's not going to make your depression worse.


  • #9
    Gremlinertia
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,497 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    This really is a matter for a gp Kellykelly, i do hope it passes soon though, i go through significant bouts of it and it's some struggle

    Mod Note: Just a gentle reminder, no medical advice on thread as per charter


  • #10
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Mylah Purple Finger wrote: »
    anyone else got ideas?

    What have you tried to correct this?
    It's easy to get recommendations for good sleep practice through google. Some instructions will include things like the following.

    Try to build a constant pattern
    Try to have the room dark.
    Try to not have your phone near you and don't use it for 30 minutes before going to bed.
    Try to go to bed at the same time every night.
    Cut out alcohol, cigarettes, tea/coffee for a couple of hours before going to bed.

    All the above might be frustrating to read if you have tried them already or are really struggling. The phone is a big one in my experience. The white light from it really wakens the mind.

    I struggled for years with very poor sleep. Was heavily linked to depression and or the meds I was on for that. For me, I had to have tea before bed (as part of my routine) even though the instruction would say to stay away from caffeine, I was better off having it.

    Something else which worked for me, was to have music on, something to distract the mind from racing thoughts.

    I do empathise, it is literally exhausting to roll over and think you have only 40 minutes before the alarm is going to go off and you have yet to sleep.

    Speak to your Dr about it as well and get their advice.


  • #11
    Strumms
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    Mylah Purple Finger wrote: »
    Has anyone got bad insomnia. i have not slept any nigh this week. Last few months patchy. two night awake one night sleep. What cure it?

    Best thing as a jumping off point would be to speak with your GP.

    In the mean time having been the worst sleeper ever things that helped me...

    - cutting out alcohol : I was starting to drink as a liquid sleeping pill, not good.

    - cut out any stress causers : job, relationship or any or anything causing you stress...

    - exercise before sleep is good and helps me, a walk especially but be active, join a gym.

    - be happy, stress and negative feelings and thoughts can disrupt your sleep, I know it in my situation it was a major factor, be fûcking ruthless in your pursuit of happiness.


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  • #12
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Strumms wrote: »
    - be happy, stress and negative feelings and thoughts can disrupt your sleep, I know it in my situation it was a major factor, be fûcking ruthless in your pursuit of happiness.

    I know you mean well, and are correct in terms of the benefit of going to bed happy, but, the OP did mention suffering from depression.

    For many people, happiness, is beyond being just a choice, I just wanted to say that so the OP doesn't blame themselves for not being happy enough to get a good nights sleep.

    The depression may be something their GP will target as the inability to sleep could be a symptom of the depression rather than a problem in and of itself and if they can get a handle on that (and get to some place of happiness) then hopefully, restful sleep will follow.


  • #13
    80j2lc5y7u6qs9
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    Thanks everyone


  • #14
    Always Tired
    Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Always Tired


    A hot bath will always make me tired (more than a shower) and there is science behind why it does i remember seeing a youtube vid about it. Insomnia sucks.


  • #15
    80j2lc5y7u6qs9
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    found https://www.twinings.co.uk/tea/superblends/sleep-20-envelopes great hope the effect lasts. i wonderd if the effect was increased due to five nights completely awake


    Not very nice taste imo but there are capsules available too


  • #16
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    valerian helps many folk.

    I have used piriton in the past with great success and now my painkillers work a miracle . ALso I stopped worrying whether I slept or not; easy for me as I am retired with no outside obligations .. I just knit, read etc


  • #17
    _Brian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,619 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Would have same problem from time to time.

    Last time it was really bad I went to doc and got sleeping tabs for a week which helped break the expectation that you have going to bed that you won’t sleep and get some actual rest.

    No alcohol, no caffeine at all.

    Guided Mindfulness meditation twice a day in the beginning, 20 minutes each time, plenty on YouTube.

    It worked and my sleeping improved, although my wife was recently in hospital and I can recognise my sleep starting to slip again.

    A friend recommended ZMA tablets. They definitely help sleep but They are known to cause serious vivid dreaming and gave me desperate nightmares so I stopped.


  • #18
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    I had insomnia last summer. It was awful and no supplement or trick or med worked, quitting coffee, quitting drinking, turning off phone an hour before bed,meditation, nothing like that had any effect. When I went back to college and I was busy all day and exhausted by bed time and needed to switch my brain off, I started sleeping perfectly again. Insomnia miraculously disappeared within days. So for me, it was completely psychological and caused by my braining being over stimulated at night. Exercise, socialising and daily mental stimulation will all help to ease insomnia to some extent


  • #19
    brettmirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,429 ✭✭✭brettmirl


    Cognitive Behavioural Therapy for Insomnia is what worked for me.

    If you search for CBTi, you should be able to find a qualified therapist in your area or your GP should be able to refer you to one.

    There are also hospitals like St Vincent's in Dublin that have specialists that can carry out sleep studies, etc.


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