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    #2612
    dulux99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭dulux99


    I know the Jones farce is a black eye for the sport but realistically it's never going to stop happening in combat sports. There's just too much money to be made (or lost) for these incidents not to keep happening. Its not exclusive to mma either, look at Canelo only last weekend, and even Anthony Joshua is fighting a drugs cheat this weekend in Povetkin. Two wrongs don't make a right but it's just the reality of combat sports tbh.


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    #2613
    Ultimate Seduction
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Alot more uproar about Jones coming back than Brock. Strange that.


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    #2614
    dulux99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭dulux99


    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Alot more uproar about Jones coming back than Brock. Strange that.

    I know, and I somewhat agree but how many times has Jones been caught now, 3? Fool me once and all that.


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    #2615
    Lukker-
    Registered Users Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Alot more uproar about Jones coming back than Brock. Strange that.

    Most people were the same with Brock, but he also will have served 12 months by the time he fights again after his first offence. (the same as JJ)

    It's Jones second time getting caught on the juice, and USADA guidelines say your second ban has to be double the first one at a minimum, yet he barely gets 15 months. Doesn't really make sense.


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    #2616
    tommyboy26
    Registered Users Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭tommyboy26


    from a fans view i think it will be good having jones back as he makes good fights.

    however as i stated earlier him been giving 15 months is an absolute disgrace. Jones is a tramp of a man who wouldnt lie straight in his bed. he just keeps lying. swore to ariel that he didnt have a coke issue and only tried it once then admits to USADA that he was doing it before and after his last fight with DC.

    anyone saying he deserves a third fight with DC straight away deserves to be shot at with balls of their own sh1te


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    #2617
    hunter164
    Registered Users Posts: 2,076 ✭✭✭hunter164


    i hope Jones comes back and slaps DC around.


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    #2618
    EagererBeaver
    Registered Users Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Dana has just said that Jones definitively won't be on the 230 card at MSG.

    Put the house on it happening, eh.


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    #2619
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Hunt vs Saki for UFC Adelaide in the works.

    JUST LET THEM BANG BRO!


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    #2620
    Axwell
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    Thats a great co-main fight and farewell for Hunt, hopefully it gets signed.


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    #2621
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    **** it, give them gloves and put then in a ring. UFC K1!


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    #2622
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Joanna v Shevchenko set for 231.

    https://twitter.com/ufc/status/1042956041204449280


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    #2623
    Autecher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Autecher


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Joanna v Shevchenko set for 231.


    Fantastic news! Although not officially announced yet, Holloway v Ortega is expected to be the main event for that card too. War Everybody!!!


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    #2624
    cletus
    Registered Users Posts: 7,883 ✭✭✭cletus


    Glenn Robinson has died of a heart attack


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    #2625
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    cletus wrote: »
    Glenn Robinson has died of a heart attack

    Ah Jesus.

    I really liked him on TUF on the season that Usman won.

    RIP.


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    #2626
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    https://twitter.com/ufc/status/1042956041204449280?s=21

    Great fight!


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    #2627
    ricero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    The ufc are really bossing it with the fights being put together for the latter half of this year.

    Great time to be a fan.


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    #2628
    EagererBeaver
    Registered Users Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    I wonder what odds on Montaño ever fighting in the UFC again.

    Think you have to favour Shevchenko in that. Too big, too strong. JJ KOed and comfortably decisioned by Namajunas and hasn't stopped anybody in over three years.


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    #2629
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Shevchenko has also beaten Joanna a few times in kickboxing I believe?


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    #2630
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,083 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    EagererBeaver wrote: »
    JJ KOed and comfortably decisioned by Namajunas and hasn't stopped anybody in over three years.

    I doubt be 115ers will ever be know for their finishes, KOs at least. JJ has the record for most SW KOs with 2. Rose has the finishes record, 4.

    Agree that Shevchenko will be too much for JJ. They were two divisions apart not long ago. Much harder for a female to make up that kind of mass deficit in a short space of time.


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    #2631
    rob316
    Registered Users Posts: 17,973 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    These cross division fights and fighters moving up to more natural weights are really adding some bit of magic to bookings again.


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    #2632
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,520 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Paully D wrote: »
    Shevchenko has also beaten Joanna a few times in kickboxing I believe?

    3 times. Shes one of the greatest fighters of all time. 18-3 in MMA, 58-2 in kickboxing, 2-0 in boxing. Combined thats 78-5 across all 3 disciplines! And shes only 30. :eek:


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    #2633
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,083 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Alot more uproar about Jones coming back than Brock. Strange that.
    Brock will have served his suspension. No different to any fighter who has popped.

    Or to look at it another way.
    Brock and Jones both popped at UFC200.
    Jones came back, at 213, popped a second time. And is now cleared to fight from November, a few months before Brock.


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    #2634
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Mellor wrote: »
    Brock will have served his suspension. No different to any fighter who has popped.

    Or to look at it another way.
    Brock and Jones both popped at UFC200.
    Jones came back, at 213, popped a second time. And is now cleared to fight from November, a few months before Brock.

    That's because Brock retired and his ban was put on hold. If Brock didn't retire he would have been eligible to fight over a year ago.


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    #2635
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users Posts: 20,544 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    cliggg wrote: »
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Joanna v Shevchenko set for 231.


    Fantastic news! Although not officially announced yet, Holloway v Ortega is expected to be the main event for that card too. War Everybody!!!
    They need a great back up, no way in hell Holloway makes weight .


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    #2636
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,083 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    That's because Brock retired and his ban was put on hold. If Brock didn't retire he would have been eligible to fight over a year ago.

    I'm aware. But I don't think that's relevant in this context.
    The question was why people are more put out by
    Jones than Brock returning. The point is that Brock will serve his full ban (plus an 18 month "retirement"). Jones popped twice and isn't serving a full ban.

    If they gave Jones 18 months at the start. I'd be ok with it. But giving him 15 after more or less 15minths is farcical.


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    #2637
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,520 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Mellor wrote: »
    I'm aware. But I don't think that's relevant in this context.
    The question was why people are more put out by
    Jones than Brock returning. The point is that Brock will serve his full ban (plus an 18 month "retirement"). Jones popped twice and isn't serving a full ban.

    If they gave Jones 18 months at the start. I'd be ok with it. But giving him 15 after more or less 15minths is farcical.

    The majority of these cases are farcical too

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Doping_cases_in_mixed_martial_arts


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    #2638
    ASOT
    Registered Users Posts: 7,733 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Barao nearly 6lbs over for his fight tomorrow. Disgrace


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    #2639
    EagererBeaver
    Registered Users Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    ASOT wrote: »
    Barao nearly 6lbs over for his fight tomorrow. Disgrace

    Can't be too far away from getting cut. He's finished anyway.


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    #2640
    ASOT
    Registered Users Posts: 7,733 ✭✭✭ASOT


    EagererBeaver wrote: »
    Can't be too far away from getting cut. He's finished anyway.

    Yeah a combination of TJ and USADA ended him to be fair. I'd say if he loses he's getting his p45.


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    #2641
    dulux99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭dulux99


    ASOT wrote: »
    Barao nearly 6lbs over for his fight tomorrow. Disgrace

    USADA isn't perfect but atleast it's weeded out the likes of that fraud.


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