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2020 NFL Playoffs - Divisional round

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    #122
    The_Honeybadger
    Registered Users Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭The_Honeybadger


    BrentMused wrote: »
    Well done to the Bills. The far better team and that was a masterclass in coaching from Frazier especially who embarrassed his counterpart(s) throughout.

    All things considered with that season I'd be happy enough with a playoff trip and a win during same if I were the Ravens. It was a bit of a disaster all round with the COVID mess and long losing streak.

    Again I'll say that one big problem for Baltimore when they get to this level is that 90% of the time their opponents are going to have at least one elite receiver.

    They haven't had one for a long, long time now and it is extremely debilitating when you get to the playoffs.

    It's easier said than done and it's not as if they haven't tried especially in more recent years, but for example every team left in the playoffs all have at least one WR who is far superior to anything they have: Bills (Diggs), Browns (Beckham/Landry), Buccs (Evans), Packers (Adams), Chiefs (Hill), Saints (Thomas).

    I would also be having a serious look at moving on from Greg Roman and pass game coordinator David Culley. Jackson is far from perfect, but he is more than good enough to win with and is not helped in any way by the offensive scheme.

    While I agree they need a big time receiver I think that’s skirting around the real issue. Lamar cannot take over games with his arm the way Mahomes, Rodgers or Brady can. He is a phenomenal player in his own right but he is not a championship QB. 3 points tonight is a big worry for any team with super bowl ambitions in the near future.

    I can’t ever see him winning out a playoff run and Super Bowl, especially after they pay him and the talent around him suffers for it. I know Lamar went off injured tonight but they were pretty much buried at that point.


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    #123
    Dodge
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    The_Honeybadger wrote: »
    I know Lamar went off injured tonight but they were pretty much buried at that point.

    To be fair, if that end zone pick 6 goes the other way then they’re probably level. Bad pick but it happens them all

    2 poor games tonight


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    #124
    StevenToast
    Registered Users Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Cmon THE BILLS!

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



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    #125
    threeball
    Registered Users Posts: 7,964 ✭✭✭threeball


    Lamar is a below average QB with immense speed and is always going to struggle when it gets to the playoffs. The defences are too good to allow him pick up huge yardage on the ground and his lack of aerial threat only makes the situation worse. He ends up taking away his own RB's run game too. When he scrambles he scrambles to run not to pass his way out of problems, ends up getting sacked a couple of times and once they go 3rd and long they're then in big trouble. They may need to rethink their whole strategy or every year will feel like groundhog day.


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    #126
    The_Kew_Tour
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    I'm glad I had the common sense to go to bed before half time. Truly awful stuff, but Bills won't care and good for them.


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    #127
    Itssoeasy
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    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    You say this every week and then slink back! :D

    Well this week I meant it and stuck to it.


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    #128
    Itssoeasy
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    The_Kew_Tour wrote: »
    I'm glad I had the common sense to go to bed before half time. Truly awful stuff, but Bills won't care and good for them.

    I am too. I checked the score this morning and it confirmed my decision.

    The browns and chiefs game could be a classic.


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    #129
    threeball
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    Chiefs and Saints to get it done tonight. The Saints simply can't get the rotten calls they got the last two years you'd have to think.


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    #130
    Mr. Guappa
    Registered Users Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Pretty ominous opening drive there from The Chiefs. Missed the XP at least.


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    #131
    MileHighGuy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭MileHighGuy


    Only way I see the Browns can win this is if they get a couple of tds from defense or special teams....basically fluke-type plays.

    Chiefs just better in every facet.


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    #132
    [Deleted User]
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    Chiefs offence is too good.

    Mahomes
    Hill
    Bell
    Hardman
    Kelce

    Lethal.


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    #133
    Panrich
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    Baker didn't get much help on that last series. A holding penalty on a big gain and two drops won't get it done against the chiefs.


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    #134
    MileHighGuy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭MileHighGuy


    What a huge holding call, instead of 1st and 10 from the kc27, they end up punting from their own 38.

    Thats the type of mistake that the Browns can't afford.

    Chubb with the 2 drops that might have made it a manageable 3rd down as well.


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    #135
    threeball
    Registered Users Posts: 7,964 ✭✭✭threeball


    Only caveat is that the Chiefs have done this on a number of occasions over the last few weeks then they took their foot of the gas. If the chiefs play to their potential theyre unstoppable


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    #136
    Foxtrol
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    The_Honeybadger wrote: »
    While I agree they need a big time receiver I think that’s skirting around the real issue. Lamar cannot take over games with his arm the way Mahomes, Rodgers or Brady can. He is a phenomenal player in his own right but he is not a championship QB. 3 points tonight is a big worry for any team with super bowl ambitions in the near future.

    I can’t ever see him winning out a playoff run and Super Bowl, especially after they pay him and the talent around him suffers for it. I know Lamar went off injured tonight but they were pretty much buried at that point.

    Sure Lamar can't take over games with his arm like those 3 but few can, seeing as those will go down in history as being in the discussion as the GOAT.

    I don't see how people can push scheme and receiver talent as being side issues. In some cases it seems like it is still some confirmation bias from when he was drafted. I saw nothing last night or for most of the season that stresses out defense to take focus away from stopping Lamar running. The routes were extremely basic and no one was capable of getting close to open. I'm not sure what is being expected from Lamar, most QBs would struggle especially when you add their OL issues and a number of stupid mistakes.

    As for today's game we're right on the edge of this being a blowout. Really disappointing divisional weekend of games so far (most of the playoff games have been poor so far).


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    #137
    Itssoeasy
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    The browns need to end the half with a TD.


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    #138
    paulie21
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    Ah that's hard luck for the Browns


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    #139
    Mr. Guappa
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    Ah jeez.


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    #140
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,556 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Oh you need to hold onto the ball.


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    #141
    Kev8360
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    Great play be Sorensen - absolute sickener for Cleveland


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    #142
    Itssoeasy
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    paulie21 wrote: »
    Ah that's hard luck for the Browns

    Should have wrapped up the ball and taken the hit and see where would have been down. There was time left in the half.


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    #143
    [Deleted User]
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    Criminal from Higgins. Secure the football.


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    #144
    LuckyGent88
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    What an enormous play. Huge in the context of the game. What Mahomes go up the other way and get some points now with plenty of time on the clock.


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    #145
    paulie21
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    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Should have wrapped up the ball and taken the hit and see where would have been down. There was time left in the half.

    I know but hard to take away the instinct of reaching for the pylon


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    #146
    MileHighGuy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭MileHighGuy


    Ah Fer Fecks sake. Give up Cleveland.

    Instead of 1st and goal and be down 16-10, KC might score to go up further, and get the ball to start the 3rd.

    Browns have been decent and deserve to be closer.


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    #147
    hynesie08
    Registered Users Posts: 9,705 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    You can't moan an offensive player tried to score, it's literally the point of the game....


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    #148
    MileHighGuy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭MileHighGuy


    If that happened anywhere else on the field I reckon helmet to helmet would've been called.


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    #149
    paulie21
    Registered Users Posts: 17,837 ✭✭✭✭paulie21


    Defender led with the crown of the helmet too


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    #150
    Panrich
    Registered Users Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Panrich


    Should have been illegal use of the helmet


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    #151
    Faugheen
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    That should be a helmet to helmet call. That’s a joke.

    Mahomes and KC getting away with it again.


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