European Masters 21st-27th September on Eurosport

zuutroy · 20-09-2020 1:09pm #1

New season properly kicks off tomorrow. Heaps of televised snooker on between now and Christmas, though most of it will be in an empty Marshall Arena. Most of the big guns back in action again including Ronnie.

He goes against Daniel Wells on Tuesday evening. Trump on Monday evening against the 14 year old lad Boiko from Ukraine.

Best of 9 most of the way then best of 11 for the semis and best of 19 for the final so reasonable length matches.

Here's hoping that by the time the Crucible rolls around in April the world will be in a better state than it is now

Inviere · 20-09-2020 1:40pm

zuutroy wrote: »

Trump on Monday evening against the 14 year old lad Boiko from Ukraine.

Whats this?? A 14 year old?

zuutroy · 20-09-2020 2:01pm

Inviere wrote: »

Whats this?? A 14 year old?

He finished 2nd in the WSF Open and earned a 2 year tour card. One of the great hopes for the future apparently.

Inviere · 20-09-2020 2:02pm

zuutroy wrote: »

He finished 2nd in the WSF Open and earned a 2 year tour card. One of the great hopes for the future apparently.

Interesting, I'd not heard of him.

The Nal · 22-09-2020 10:03am

Inviere wrote: »

Whats this?? A 14 year old?

Turns 15 today. Not really a contest yesterday. Robbo had to pull out the stops though. Jimmy White bottled it unsurprisingly.

Ronnie on tonight.

zuutroy · 22-09-2020 11:37am

Ronnie's match is off as Wells tested positive for Covid. So did Gary Wilson, and Elliot Slessor has to withdraw as a close contact of Wilson.

The Nal · 22-09-2020 11:41am

zuutroy wrote: »

Ronnie's match is off as Wells tested positive for Covid. So did Gary Wilson, and Elliot Slessor has to withdraw as a close contact of Wilson.

Ah berlix. Suppose we better get used to this sort of thing.

bradolf pittler · 22-09-2020 12:08pm

Gotta feel bad for Slessor.
Huge scrap for ranking points and prize money with the lower ranked players and every tournament counts.
To be forced to withdraw when you dont even have covid is very unfortunate.
Him and Wilson will be travelling in seperate cars in future

bradolf pittler · 22-09-2020 12:11pm

Just noticed Corks Aaron Hill will face Ronnie if he beats Andy Hicks.Talk about motivation.....

zuutroy · 22-09-2020 9:49pm

bradolf pittler wrote: »

Just noticed Corks Aaron Hill will face Ronnie if he beats Andy Hicks.Talk about motivation.....

Which he has just done, finishing off with his first pro century.

Rothko · 24-09-2020 7:22pm

Very good first frame there by Aaron Hill.

zuutroy · 24-09-2020 7:42pm

He's looking very good.

El_Duderino 09 · 24-09-2020 7:55pm

Lovely start. He's looking very self assured

Rothko · 24-09-2020 8:18pm

3-1 now. Could be a big upset on the cards.

zuutroy · 24-09-2020 10:07pm

Brilliant performance.

Rothko · 24-09-2020 10:09pm

Absolutely delighted for Hill.

Hodors Appletart · 24-09-2020 10:09pm

that was great fair play

kept his cool after the fluke

VillaMad · 24-09-2020 10:09pm

Fantastic for the young lad.

El_Duderino 09 · 24-09-2020 10:10pm

It wasn't vintage from either of them but great result. Really dogged performance and held his nerve.

Faded Glory · 24-09-2020 10:11pm

Very impressive, like Hendry at his age, fearless and aggressive

Chalk McHugh · 24-09-2020 10:12pm

Watched the full match and was very impressed with this young Cork man. He has a lovely cue action and has already showed he has plenty of bottle. Move over Ken and Fergal, there's a new sheriff in town. Brilliant win against the game's greatest player. Finally us Irish snooker fans may have another top player to follow.

Joe_ Public · 24-09-2020 10:14pm

Not sure I've seen a player so tense over a shot as Aaron was over that pink to centre. Hand on heart, i didnt think he'd pot it but he nailed it and was a frame and match winner. Ronnie gave him some help but still had to pot them. Fair play and just great to have a real prospect from these parts on the scene again. Been way too long already.

begbysback · 24-09-2020 10:53pm

Fair play lad, missed a couple of basic blacks, and Ronnie was absolute tripe, but for an18 year old to have the balls to put it up to Ronnie, amazing.

Joe_ Public · 24-09-2020 11:05pm

Was talking to a lad from cork a few months back and he told me Aaron didnt take the game up till he was 14. Not sure I'd believe that but i know he was on the books at cork city and was a decent footballer so I'd say it was that he didnt get serious about snooker till he was that age. Either way, i just hope he settles into it and makes sure he's there for the long haul. Attitude seems great so i doubt he'd let tonight go to his head or get too far ahead of himself. Stevens next which is just as tricky a match as Stevens will use all his experience to nerve him out of it. Not sure we'll get any live feed for it, though.

refusetolose · 24-09-2020 11:16pm

https://twitter.com/WeAreWST/status/1309251765288787972

Backstreet Moyes · 24-09-2020 11:57pm

begbysback wrote: »

Was heading towards comedy rather than depth, kind of a paradox of your insightful comment?

Yes I removed my post it was obvious you were joking

Joe_ Public · 25-09-2020 11:09am

Stephen Hill on talking to Claire Byrne right now, very proud dad as you can imagine. Incredibly Aaron was 14 when he took up the game, find that just amazing as he was all ireland champion his first year. Obviously just a prodigious talent to achieve all he has in 4 years.

El_Duderino 09 · 25-09-2020 12:13pm

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Stephen Hill on talking to Claire Byrne right now, very proud dad as you can imagine. Incredibly Aaron was 14 when he took up the game, find that just amazing as he was all ireland champion his first year. Obviously just a prodigious talent to achieve all he has in 4 years.

If he's that new to the game then you'd imagine he has a lot of catching up to do in terms of strategy and general sneakiness that older pros use to their advantage. Hopefully he can add that to his game and become a top pro

Joe_ Public · 25-09-2020 12:21pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

If he's that new to the game then you'd imagine he has a lot of catching up to do in terms of strategy and general sneakiness that older pros use to their advantage. Hopefully he can add that to his game and become a top pro

Yeah, true. A couple of people had told me that before and i found it really hard to believe but then his dad confirms it in interview this morning. I'm guessing he must have played a lot of pool growing up maybe. He was all ireland champion at 14 so talent must have been very immediately apparent. Its actually quite remarkable really.

Edit: you're spot on about learning all the tricks of the game to become a top pro. That can only come with time and experience and, naturally, plenty of beatings. His attitude seems good and has good folk around him so plenty of reason for hope.

Dodge · 25-09-2020 12:38pm

Full game here if anyone wants to watch it

https://youtu.be/_Nsh9STEBUc

El_Duderino 09 · 25-09-2020 12:51pm

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Yeah, true. A couple of people had told me that before and i found it really hard to believe but then his dad confirms it in interview this morning. I'm guessing he must have played a lot of pool growing up maybe. He was all ireland champion at 14 so talent must have been very immediately apparent. Its actually quite remarkable really.

Edit: you're spot on about learning all the tricks of the game to become a top pro. That can only come with time and experience and, naturally, plenty of beatings. His attitude seems good and has good folk around him so plenty of reason for hope.

Yeah I'd imagine there's a role for coaching in learning that stuff too. The Glasgow boys have formed a practice group which they call "The Unit" (Higgins, Maguire, McGill and maybe Dott). That's a serious school of hard knocks. They can all play (and lose and learn) a lot in that group without the consequence of being knocked out of a tournament. And I think it showed in McGill's world championship run and Maguire's great form in the nations championship and Higgins general very high performance. I don't suppose Hill has anything like that quality of opponent so he'll have to work hard to improve his game. Really hope he can do it.

Joe_ Public · 25-09-2020 4:28pm

88 break from Hill to make it 2-2 at the interval. Mostly very tight frames judging from live scores, seemed to spend nearly 20 minutes on the brown in third frame. All to play for.

AllForIt · 25-09-2020 4:28pm

Dodge wrote: »

Full game here if anyone wants to watch it

https://youtu.be/_Nsh9STEBUc

Just caught up with this today. I was very impressed by his demeanour around the table, played fairly quickly and his you could see his level of concentration couldn't be much better. That was a fantastic pink to the middle he pulled of in the final frame given how important it was for him it get it at that stage of the frame and for the occasion it was for him personally. He's defiantly got the gift, all he needs to do is work on it.

Joe_ Public · 25-09-2020 5:32pm

Not sure whats happening in Hill-Stevens match. Either scoreboard is on the blink or they're off the table for some reason, with Aaron leading 3-2 and at the table in 6th.

El_Duderino 09 · 25-09-2020 5:33pm

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Not sure whats happening in Hill-Stevens match. Either scoreboard is on the blink or they're off the table for some reason, with Aaron leading 3-2 and at the table in 6th.

I've got it here

3-3 Hill on a break in the 7th

http://livescores.worldsnookerdata.com/LiveScoring/Match/14156/786872

Joe_ Public · 25-09-2020 5:33pm

Damn scoreboard was on the blink. Updated now and 3-3.

Joe_ Public · 25-09-2020 5:44pm

Gonna be 4-3. Great stuff.

Tho stevens only needs one snooker here so possibly premature!

Rothko · 25-09-2020 6:10pm

Great win by Hill. Although Stevens was very unlucky on that last blue.

Joe_ Public · 25-09-2020 6:12pm

That's it, home and hosed 5-3. Really great way to follow up last night.

His reward? Back on table in an hour to face Yan Bingtao for a place in qf. Tough nut to crack i fear, but should be all bonus territory for him now. Just try to relax and enjoy it.

Joe_ Public · 25-09-2020 6:13pm

Rothko wrote: »

Great win by Hill. Although Stevens was very unlucky on that last blue.

Was it on eurosport?

zuutroy · 25-09-2020 6:15pm

I looked on the player and it wasn't. His next match won't be on either I guess. Lots of good ties in the L16.

Joe_ Public · 25-09-2020 6:17pm

Hoping to get a live feed tonight. I expect one of the bookies sites will have it if not the player or wstv. Hoping anyway.

Edit: though looking at the line up i wouldn't be hopeful at all. Too many big names there, even if they show 4 matches. Not likely probably.

Rothko · 25-09-2020 6:21pm

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Was it on eurosport?

No, I found it on a streaming site.

zuutroy · 25-09-2020 6:22pm

Rothko wrote: »

No, I found it on a streaming site.

Didn't even think there were cameras on the outer tables!

Joe_ Public · 25-09-2020 9:20pm

1-4 down, looking ominous now. Always a tough ask for a rookie having battled to beat Stevens and then face an even tougher opponent an hour later. No shame in defeat here at all if or when it comes.

Chalk McHugh · 25-09-2020 9:28pm

Yea not looking good for for the young lad but what a great tournament for him all the same. Not many 18 year olds can say they've beaten Ronnie in a big match. He'll always have that on his CV. After seeing him play for the first time i expect we may be talking about him for a long time to come. Seems level headed too which is very important.

Rothko · 25-09-2020 9:32pm

Hard luck to Hill there. Yan was always going to be a tough opponent. He's done well though.

Joe_ Public · 25-09-2020 9:43pm

My report card on Aaron Hill for the week:

*beat reigning world champion and games greatest ever player
*became officially the No.1 R of Ire player
*got himself inside the world top 100
*earned a decent few quid in the process as well as crucial ranking points
*showed he can compete and live with the very best

Not bad for a rookie on his first week on tour, a solid A. Would give him an A+ but this is a tough school and there's still plenty to work on so hopefully knuckles down and doesnt get too far ahead of himself. Seems to have great attitude and work ethic so dont think he will.

El_Duderino 09 · 25-09-2020 10:55pm

Joe_ Public wrote: »

My report card on Aaron Hill for the week:

*beat reigning world champion and games greatest ever player
*became officially the No.1 R of Ire player
*got himself inside the world top 100
*earned a decent few quid in the process as well as crucial ranking points
*showed he can compete and live with the very best

Not bad for a rookie on his first week on tour, a solid A. Would give him an A+ but this is a tough school and there's still plenty to work on so hopefully knuckles down and doesnt get too far ahead of himself. Seems to have great attitude and work ethic so dont think he will.

How many points did he get?

Arthur Daley · 25-09-2020 11:16pm

Rough on Mark Davis to have his cue nicked from his car, giving Selby the walkover. Who nicks a bloody cue from a car.

At his age tough to adapt to a new cue.

refusetolose · 25-09-2020 11:18pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

How many points did he get?

think the commentator said 6000

European Masters 21st-27th September on Eurosport

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