Housing Minister issues wind warning

Magnatu · 11-10-2018 5:48pm

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

People in Ireland need to be warned about severe weather as much as possible. During storm Ophelia I could see from my window people carrying on as if nothing was happening. There were people walking, cycling and taking their dogs for a walk. There was this barrier thing around a telephone pole that the council had been working on. At the exact moment a man was walking around this pole a gust of wind blew it down. It missed him by about an inch.

I don't get this shite of downplaying it. "It's a bit windy". No, there's a storm. And just because it's not that bad where you are it doesn't mean it's the same all over the country.

This is the kind of shite teenagers do, act like they're too hard to be affected by weather.

It's not so much being hard but "the weather" is something that is taken as a normal part of life in other countries.
In 1984 Orwell spoke of keeping the population in s constant state of fear and that's kinda what has happened in Ireland.with scare tactics and constant weather warnings.
Maybe it takes an outsider to notice it and understandable that many are in denial and get very annoyed and abusive when it is pointed out to them. But
. Irish people are now in a constant state of fear and anxiety of "the weather" .
It is not natural or good.

Magnatu · 17-12-2018 4:33pm

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Its a warning. You can ignore it or not.
But its up to you. Nobody is forcing anything here .

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

What the hell is your problem?

It is a valid weather warning.

Deleted User wrote: »

You mean he shouldn’t be warning people to take responsibility for themselves?

Or he was warning of the possible risk to lives

To be frank I think ye are all just a bunch of oversensitive snowflakes.
And I reiterate. It is Ireland. The wind will blow sometimes. It will rain occasionally.
But these constant weather warnings and talk of danger and storms is making us as a nation more fearful and anxious. It is the creation of irrational fear in a populace that is straight out of the orwellian playbook.

Sonics2k · 17-12-2018 4:39pm

Magnatu wrote: »

To be frank I think ye are all just a bunch of oversensitive snowflakes.
And I reiterate. It is Ireland. The wind will blow sometimes. It will rain occasionally.
But these constant weather warnings and talk of danger and storms is making us as a nation more fearful and anxious. It is the creation of irrational fear in a populace that is straight out of the orwellian playbook.

I like that you came back to the thread several days later, after everybody had stopped posting just to get that last little comment in.

Ironic snowflake behaviour.

amcalester · 17-12-2018 4:41pm

Magnatu wrote: »

To be frank I think ye are all just a bunch of oversensitive snowflakes.
And I reiterate. It is Ireland. The wind will blow sometimes. It will rain occasionally.
But these constant weather warnings and talk of danger and storms is making us as a nation more fearful and anxious. It is the creation of irrational fear in a populace that is straight out of the orwellian playbook.

I think they're great, every time there's a weather warning I tell my boss that I'm going to work from so as to avoid the resulting traffic problems.

Gives me an extra few hours back each time.

Magnatu · 17-12-2018 4:50pm

Sonics2k wrote: »

I like that you came back to the thread several days later, after everybody had stopped posting just to get that last little comment in..

This thread is not time limited because in case you haven't noticed these warnings have become ubitiquous and constant. People have forgotten that there was a time when we didn't have them.
Be afraid. Be very afraid. Of the wind. And the rain

Fr_Dougal · 17-12-2018 7:15pm

Magnatu wrote: »

This thread is not time limited because in case you haven't noticed these warnings have become ubitiquous and constant. People have forgotten that there was a time when we didn't have them.
Be afraid. Be very afraid. Of the wind. And the rain

What about the snow? And the lightning? And the ice?

James Brown · 17-12-2018 7:16pm

Olsky wrote: »

The Housing Minister Eoghan Murphy has taken to twitter to advise us all of the possibility that it might be windy.
According to the Minister there is the "potential for damaging gusts"
So please be careful out there... particularly if you are homeless.

His Mam is making him Beans for tea.

Magnatu · 17-12-2018 7:34pm

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

What about the snow?

Last time it snowed we shut down the country for two days. Actually very interesting to observe the way the populace is being conditioned to be afraid of the weather.

AudreyHepburn · 17-12-2018 7:48pm

Ninthlife wrote: »

Whats wrong with him tweeting this?

Not a thing in the world. But because he’s a politician this somehow makes it acceptable to scorn, belittle and hate everything he says and does.

The real issue people have with EM is that unlike Harry Potter he cannot wave a magic wand and make houses appear out of thin air.

I really think folk in this country have a lot of unrealistic expectations when it comes to our politicians.

We also need to realize that not everyone on the homeless register is actually homeless - to me, if you rent a property or live in a council house then you are not homeless.

That title, for want of a better way of putting it, only applies to those poor souls who live on the streets.

Jimbob1977 · 17-12-2018 7:50pm

Met Eireann falls under his remit in the Department of Housing, Planning and Local Government.

Not sure what the big deal is

AudreyHepburn · 17-12-2018 7:51pm

JupiterKid wrote: »

Eoghan Murphy should insread issue a hot air warning...

...all the guff that comes out of his gob and sweet FA all action.

I can’t understand this thought process - do people honestly believe our politicians sit in their offices and do nothing all day?

Surely you have a bit more sense than that?

Magnatu · 17-12-2018 10:03pm

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

The real issue people have with EM is that unlike Harry Potter he cannot wave a magic wand and make houses appear out of thin air.

I really think folk in this country have a lot of unrealistic expectations when it comes to our politicians.

That is the argument that Fine Gael have been using for many many years. That they can not magically provide social housing.
However the minister has been in place for long enough now to judge him on his achievemens.
The figures for social housing completions this year have been released. They are tiny.
At the same time the minister has dramatically increased payments to Fine Gaels supporters, the landlords, the institutional investors and the vulture funds through the odious landlord support scheme called HAP. He has also revoked a pledge by his predessor to phase out payments to hotel owners. This is an ideological decision.
The big losers are the working poor who face increased rents because of the hundreds of millions being paid to private landlords.

Magnatu · 21-01-2019 2:39pm

Retailers blast overuse of weather warnings by Met Eireann.
Alarmist and making people afraid to go shopping

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/business/retail-industry-body-blast-alarmist-met-eireann-weather-warnings-893018.html

El_Bee · 21-01-2019 2:55pm

Magnatu wrote: »

Retailers blast overuse of weather warnings by Met Eireann.
Alarmist and making people afraid to go shopping

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/business/retail-industry-body-blast-alarmist-met-eireann-weather-warnings-893018.html

I would have thought people panic buy and stock up to avoid last years scenes.

Dakotabigone · 21-01-2019 2:59pm

The showers becoming more showery.

branie2 · 21-01-2019 4:41pm

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Maybe he shouldn't have built the houses out of straw.

or sticks

Magnatu · 06-02-2019 6:27pm

A nation wide weather warning because it might be windy by the coast at the weekend.
Is it not time we got rid of these ridiculous weather warnings.

https://www.joe.ie/news/met-eireann-issue-nationwide-weather-warning-weekend-657480

Itssoeasy · 06-02-2019 6:31pm

Magnatu wrote: »

A nation wide weather warning because it might be windy by the coast at the weekend.
Is it not time we got rid of these ridiculous weather warnings.

https://www.joe.ie/news/met-eireann-issue-nationwide-weather-warning-weekend-657480

No it's not time to get rid of these far from ridiculous as you call them weather warnings. There may be scope to alter them someway but not to get rid of them.

Dakotabigone · 06-02-2019 6:50pm

Lads need to knock one out. Getting very excited over wind is abnormal.

Allinall · 06-02-2019 6:52pm

Magnatu wrote: »

A nation wide weather warning because it might be windy by the coast at the weekend.
Is it not time we got rid of these ridiculous weather warnings.

https://www.joe.ie/news/met-eireann-issue-nationwide-weather-warning-weekend-657480

No.

Flyingsnowball · 06-02-2019 6:53pm

Speaking of wind is anybody way more farty than they used to be after a weekend of drinking. I used to just fart all Monday but now it could even be Wednesday and I have a dose of all day gusts.

It’s very disheartening for my co workers.

Magnatu · 06-02-2019 10:51pm

How did our ancestors survive without these constant warnings to make them afraid of the wind.

WARNINGS WARNING DANGER DANGER

A Status Yellow weather warning has been issued as Ireland will be battered with winds.

Met Eireann has warned of gusts on Friday, with the alert in place for all counties.

A forecaster said: “Very windy on Friday with possibly storm winds along parts of the coast.”

The warning is in place from 6:00 am to 8:00 pm on Friday.

Allinall · 06-02-2019 11:09pm

Magnatu wrote: »

How did our ancestors survive without these constant warnings to make them afraid of the wind.

WARNINGS WARNING DANGER DANGER

A Status Yellow weather warning has been issued as Ireland will be battered with winds.

Met Eireann has warned of gusts on Friday, with the alert in place for all counties.

A forecaster said: “Very windy on Friday with possibly storm winds along parts of the coast.”

The warning is in place from 6:00 am to 8:00 pm on Friday.

How do you know ALL our ancestors survived?

How do you know there weren’t lots of people went out in fishing boats not realising how bad the winds were going to be?

How do you know some of our ancestors weren’t killed by falling trees?

Why are you actually obsessed with weather warnings, when they can only help?

Dakotabigone · 06-02-2019 11:12pm

Magnatu wrote: »

How did our ancestors survive without these constant warnings to make them afraid of the wind.

WARNINGS WARNING DANGER DANGER

A Status Yellow weather warning has been issued as Ireland will be battered with winds.

Met Eireann has warned of gusts on Friday, with the alert in place for all counties.

A forecaster said: “Very windy on Friday with possibly storm winds along parts of the coast.”

The warning is in place from 6:00 am to 8:00 pm on Friday.

The dag ran under the table for a big wind and under the bed for a massive one.

JupiterKid · 06-02-2019 11:13pm

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

Speaking of wind is anybody way more farty than they used to be after a weekend of drinking. I used to just fart all Monday but now it could even be Wednesday and I have a dose of all day gusts.

It’s very disheartening for my co workers.

It's called getting older.

Just wait till those farts turn into sharts and you will then really regret those weekend benders... :O

Magnatu · 07-02-2019 12:53am

Allinall wrote: »

Why are you actually obsessed with weather warnings, when they can only help?

Because I don't think they do help. What they are doing is making us more fearful and anxious. He are being trained to be afraid. Sure. A tree might fall down somewhere. There might be a fisherman on the sea who might be affected. There might be a caravan on a clifftop that might blow over.
But there is risk everywhere in life. Unless you are prepared to wrap yourself in cotton wool and stay at home.
The weather warnings are making us fearful of what is normal and natural. The weather.

Graces7 · 07-02-2019 7:07am

Magnatu wrote: »

Because I don't think they do help. What they are doing is making us more fearful and anxious. He are being trained to be afraid. Sure. A tree might fall down somewhere. There might be a fisherman on the sea who might be affected. There might be a caravan on a clifftop that might blow over.
But there is risk everywhere in life. Unless you are prepared to wrap yourself in cotton wool and stay at home.
The weather warnings are making us fearful of what is normal and natural. The weather.

That you say you are afraid ? Why ? The warnings are not to make you afraid but to advise of adverse conditions.

We have a gale warning out for tomorrow. I live on a very very exposed coast so simply that means I need to make sure nothing is left out and that I have fuel in the house. Not an iota of fear... just practical matters. Glad of the warning.

And they are needed so that eg the ferry does not set out and yes, risk real danger at sea . Again, no one is afraid here. Just taking care/ We need to be aware and act sensibly

The warnings do help. And you can always just tune them out anyways.

Up to you what you make of them .

Magnatu · 07-02-2019 9:32am

There will always be specific people like a fisherman at sea or like you that lives on an exposed coast and likes to leave out garden furniture that will need more specific warnings.

I'm talking about the general warnings aimed at the entire population. Do the million and and a half people in Dublin need to be warned that it might be windy on Saturday.
This is straight out of the Orwellian playbook. Create anxiety in the population by making them afraid.
I was speaking to an elderly woman yesterday who said she would not be going out at the weekend"because of the warnings"
Retailers pleaded with Met Eireann recently to ease up on the warnings as they were making people afraid to go shopping.
These warnings are making us as a country more fearful and nervous about something we always took as natural and normal. The weather.

Graces7 · 07-02-2019 1:12pm

Magnatu wrote: »

There will always be specific people like a fisherman at sea or like you that lives on an exposed coast and likes to leave out garden furniture that will need more specific warnings.

I'm talking about the general warnings aimed at the entire population. Do the million and and a half people in Dublin need to be warned that it might be windy on Saturday.
This is straight out of the Orwellian playbook. Create anxiety in the population by making them afraid.
I was speaking to an elderly woman yesterday who said she would not be going out at the weekend"because of the warnings"
Retailers pleaded with Met Eireann recently to ease up on the warnings as they were making people afraid to go shopping.
These warnings are making us as a country more fearful and nervous about something we always took as natural and normal. The weather.

If so yes they do, Then they can make their own minds up.

And good for the elderly lady.

Orwellian? Ah conspiracy theorist.. First one I have ever met.

NB there have been deaths when folk ignored warnings. met.ie cannot not give warnings in law or in morality and public concern

Maybe have a look at met.ie and Storm Erik......

ps i have no garden furniture to leave out! lol

Dakotabigone · 08-02-2019 12:03am

Strong wind tomorrow. It will be of the windy type. Buy bread.

Magnatu · 08-02-2019 6:14pm

Graces7 wrote: »

If so yes they do, Then they can make their own minds up.

And good for the elderly lady.

Orwellian? Ah conspiracy theorist.. First one I have ever met.

NB there have been deaths when folk ignored warnings. met.ie cannot not give warnings in law or in morality and public concern

lol

It is orwellian. The creation of fear and anxiety in the populace. People afraid to venture outside because of "the wind". And if someone dies somewhere sometime it justifies making people afraid
I think the emergence of the era of the "weather warnings" is an insidious development.

branie2 · 09-02-2019 12:46pm

Stop eating baked beans!

The Rape of Lucretia · 09-02-2019 12:54pm

Nobody really takes notice of weather warning any more, do they ?
There's one of some sort issued most of the time. Just background noise. If they were issued once or twice a year, then they probably would merit attention. But as it is, much the same feeling as traffic heavy on the Rock Road or the Dunkettle Interchange.

Gimme A Pound · 09-02-2019 12:57pm

Would people just stop comparing innocuous stuff in democratic countries to 1984? And just go and actually read 1984? Warning: it's a tough, disturbing read. And I'm not sure people who say weather warnings are like 1984 would be able to handle it.

Magnatu · 09-02-2019 5:23pm

Forrest Thousands Goth wrote: »

Would people just stop comparing innocuous stuff in democratic countries to 1984? And just go and actually read 1984? Warning: it's a tough, disturbing read. And I'm not sure people who say weather warnings are like 1984 would be able to handle it.

The comparison between weather warnings and techniques Orwell describd in 1984 is apt and very appropriate. Orwell outlined how those in power could better manage a population by keeping them in a constant state of fear and anxiety. It could be argued that the purpose of the weather warnings is exactly this.

El_Bee · 12-02-2019 6:26pm

Forrest Thousands Goth wrote: »

Would people just stop comparing innocuous stuff in democratic countries to 1984? And just go and actually read 1984? Warning: it's a tough, disturbing read. And I'm not sure people who say weather warnings are like 1984 would be able to handle it.

This post is like something out of 1984.

Weltsmertz · 10-03-2019 11:27am

Following yesterdays housing protest the Minister for Housing has tweeted a response.

@ Murphyeoghan
YELLOW ALERT -ALERT FOR IRELAND

Housing Minister issues wind warning

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