The Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein controversy.

Oracle · 08-03-2011 5:01pm #1

This tawdry and distasteful story continues. ....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1364171/Females-Jeffrey-Epstein-The-damning-telephone-log.html

I used to doubt the claims of widespread child abuse, as written about on many conspiracy websites. Although since reading up on the subject I have begun to see how much of what is documented is true. This case confirms the amount and degree of this activity, hidden from the public, but just bubbling under the surface, particularly in the "upper echelons" of society. The following websites have more on this topic:

The McMartin Preschool Case
http://www.antifascistencyclopedia.com/allposts/mcmartin-preschool-revisited-part-one

The Franklin Cover-up (opens pdf)
http://www.archive.org/download/TheFranklinCover-up/the_franklin_cover-up_-_john_decamp_-_ebook.pdf

Trauma-based Mind Control
http://knowledgefiles.com/category/categories/mind-control/

WakeUp · 08-03-2011 5:30pm

I only found about this story myself yesterday, at the moment it would appear most media are not running with it or reporting it but I think that will all change pretty soon. Especially if the FBI reopen the case in the US which they are considering doing at the moment, according to Guardian sources if that happens Andrew may be on his way to America to answer a few questions. They have a picture of him in the Guardian with Virginia Roberts one of the girls at the centre of the case. - link

Oracle · 08-03-2011 5:50pm

Thanks for the link. This story runs on and on ... seems like Prince Andrew asked Epstein to pay off some of his ex-wife's Sarah Ferguson's debt, which he did to the tune of £15,000.

Prince Andrew has been defended by the UK Foreign Secretary, William Hague. Also the chairman of the UK's Foreign Affairs Select Committee, Richard Ottoway, thinks Prince Andrew's doing "a jolly good job."http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12659571

humanji · 08-03-2011 6:10pm

I only heard about this yesterday too. But it does kind of sound like people are trying to pin something on Prince Andrew, as opposed to trying to uncover a child sex ring or anything like that. It kind of comes across as a bit fishy.

WakeUp · 08-03-2011 8:39pm

The story came out of nowhere really he has known that monster Epstein for many years but it is coming out now for whatever reason. He hasnt been accused of anything as of yet other than being a friend of a convicted child rapist, Im sure the story is going to run and run though with more twists and turns on the way.

Fantomas9mm · 02-06-2020 7:08pm

WakeUp wrote: »

The story came out of nowhere really he has known that monster Epstein for many years but it is coming out now for whatever reason. He hasnt been accused of anything as of yet other than being a friend of a convicted child rapist, Im sure the story is going to run and run though with more twists and turns on the way.

Wow , this thread is newly 10 years old.

Shows with how long this was known about.

Cheerful Spring2 · 02-06-2020 8:47pm

Fantomas9mm wrote: »

Wow , this thread is newly 10 years old.

Shows with how long this was known about.

Slimy network Epstein belonged to still out there. Netflix did an ok job showing there still some good cops around. The detective/chief of the Palm beach police deserves a medal for trying to protect the school girls some as young as 13. The FBI and others let this guy off the hook. Netflix did not discuss the allegations Epstein had intelligence ties and was likely blackmailing rich and famous people for decades.

Fantomas9mm · 02-06-2020 8:50pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Slimy network Epstein belonged to still out there. Netflix did an ok job showing there still some good cops around. The detective/chief of the Palm beach police deserves a medal for trying to protect the school girls some as young as 13. The FBI and others let this guy off the hook. Netflix did not discuss the allegations Epstein had intelligence ties and was likely blackmailing rich and famous people for decades.

Was there an Israel connection ?

4068ac1elhodqr · 02-06-2020 8:52pm

And still the dirtbird has no regrets (based on his last interview on the BBC), pure shameless.

Cheerful Spring2 · 02-06-2020 9:02pm

Fantomas9mm wrote: »

Was there an Israel connection ?

Les Wexner supposedly Epstein boss is claimed to be Mossad mole inside the United States for decades. In the Netflix documentry they claim Epstein was blackmailing him and they had a sexual relationship. I not sure if this is true or just a way to throw off journalists from looking into this intelligence connection further? Wexter was portrayed as someone who got lead astray by the criminal mastermind Epstein!

Ghislaine Maxwell father was involved in Mossad. This does not mean here she was a mole for Israeli intelligence though.

The rumor started about Epstein came from journalists, that Alexander Acosta Former United States Secretary of Labor had told people in private the reason Epstein got off lightly in 2007, he was involved in Intelligence. The agency was not named, but some made the leap it was Mossad. This is not confirmed so i can't say more to truth of it.

Fantomas9mm · 03-06-2020 8:16am

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Les Wexner supposedly Epstein boss is claimed to be Mossad mole inside the United States for decades. In the Netflix documentry they claim Epstein was blackmailing him and they had a sexual relationship. I not sure if this is true or just a way to throw off journalists from looking into this intelligence connection further? Wexter was portrayed as someone who got lead astray by the criminal mastermind Epstein!

Ghislaine Maxwell father was involved in Mossad. This does not mean here she was a mole for Israeli intelligence though.

The rumor started about Epstein came from journalists, that Alexander Acosta Former United States Secretary of Labor had told people in private the reason Epstein got off lightly in 2007, he was involved in Intelligence. The agency was not named, but some made the leap it was Mossad. This is not confirmed so i can't say more to truth of it.

A long read but interesting

https://www.mintpressnews.com/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/

Fantomas9mm · 02-07-2020 4:28pm

Fantomas9mm wrote: »

A long read but interesting

https://www.mintpressnews.com/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/

Ghislaine Maxwell arrested and charged by the FBI today .

https://news.sky.com/story/ghislaine-maxwell-long-time-friend-of-jeffrey-epstein-arrested-by-fbi-report-12019680

Inquitus · 02-07-2020 4:29pm

Fantomas9mm wrote: »

Ghislaine Maxwell arrested and charged by the FBI today .

https://news.sky.com/story/ghislaine-maxwell-long-time-friend-of-jeffrey-epstein-arrested-by-fbi-report-12019680

From what I have seen in the news, on Panorama, on Netflix documentaries etc. it seems she was more than knee deep in Epstein's carry on, so it is hard to see how she doesn't end up serving some serious time over this. Obviously throwing Andy under the bus potentially gives her an out, so as others have mentioned if I was Andrew, I would be shítting myself!

Hopefully justice is done, because both Andrew and Ghislain seem to have committed some heinous crimes, and regardless of their status, they should pay the penalty for what they have done!

4068ac1elhodqr · 02-07-2020 7:25pm

They should do a TV trial of it, much like the OJ Simpson, or Clinton's missing email server.

Meanwhile, order in the popcorn.

enno99 · 02-07-2020 10:50pm

Do you think Prince Andrew just regained his ability to sweat.

enno99 · 02-07-2020 11:59pm

Judge Orders Jeffrey Epstein Accuser To Destroy Files

Senior US District Judge Loretta Preska said on Wednesday that Giuffre's attorneys would need to provide proof that the documents had been destroyed, adding that "Counsel shall submit an affidavit detailing the steps taken to do so," according to Newsweek.

Judge Orders Jeffrey Epstein Accuser To Destroy Files

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/judge-orders-jeffrey-epstein-accuser-destroy-files

Fantomas9mm · 03-07-2020 8:47am

enno99 wrote: »

Judge Orders Jeffrey Epstein Accuser To Destroy Files

Senior US District Judge Loretta Preska said on Wednesday that Giuffre's attorneys would need to provide proof that the documents had been destroyed, adding that "Counsel shall submit an affidavit detailing the steps taken to do so," according to Newsweek.

Judge Orders Jeffrey Epstein Accuser To Destroy Files

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/judge-orders-jeffrey-epstein-accuser-destroy-files

There are so many “that’s very odd” moments with this case !

Have any Irish people (apart from Eddie Irvine) been linked with Epstein or Maxwell ?

Cheerful Spring2 · 03-07-2020 12:56pm

Fantomas9mm wrote: »

Ghislaine Maxwell arrested and charged by the FBI today .

https://news.sky.com/story/ghislaine-maxwell-long-time-friend-of-jeffrey-epstein-arrested-by-fbi-report-12019680

I wonder is Audrey Struss the actual reason this happened so fast? Nothing happened for months and months, and soon as Berman replaced from office the arrest came. This lady examined and investigated the Iran-contra affair and later sided against the US government. Those in power want her out soon, in that case she might be problematic!

This is the same district area today examining the 9/11/ Ae911 info handed to the court in New York. We can only hope she reviews the evidence and sees it and let the jury and investigators do their job.

enno99 · 03-07-2020 1:19pm

lots of interesting stuff going on in

Manhattan U.S. Attorney Berman refuses to leave after Trump says SEC chief Jay Clayton will replace him

There had been no previous indication that Berman was leaving the prestigious post of the SDNY U.S. attorney, voluntarily or otherwise.

Berman last July lodged child sex trafficking charges against the wealthy investor Jeffrey Epstein, a former friend of Trump. Epstein killed himself in a Manhattan federal jail less than two months after his arrest.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/19/justice-department-replaces-federal-prosecutor-berman-with-sec-clayton.html

In September 2016, the FBI’s New York Field Office (NYO) and the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York (SDNY) began investigating former Congressman Anthony Weiner for his online relationship with a minor. A federal search warrant was obtained on September 26, 2016, for Weiner’s iPhone, iPad, and laptop computer. The FBI obtained these devices the same day. The search warrant authorized the government to search for evidence relating to the following crimes: transmitting obscene material to a minor, sexual exploitation of children, and activities related to child pornography.

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/judicial-watch-fbi-documents-detail-weiner-laptop-clinton-email-find-just-before-the-2016-election/

enno99 · 03-07-2020 1:31pm

Follow the money

Techno Fog
@Techno_Fog
Ghislaine Maxwell - new info from the US Detention Memo:

1) The grand jury returned the indictment on 6/29/20

2) Maxwell has 15+ bank accounts. Some hold more than $20 million.

3) Transfers of millions $$ to/from Epstein

4) Cash purchase of 156 acre NH Property in 2019

enno99 · 03-07-2020 1:43pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

I wonder is Audrey Struss the actual reason this happened so fast? Nothing happened for months and months, and soon as Berman replaced from office the arrest came. This lady examined and investigated the Iran-contra affair and later sided against the US government. Those in power want her out soon, in that case she might be problematic!

This is the same district area today examining the 9/11/ Ae911 info handed to the court in New York. We can only hope she reviews the evidence and sees it and let the jury and investigators do their job.

Interesting when you look at Barrs involvement in that episode
The swamp is deep and intertwined
Just have to hope that crimes against children is where some of them draw the line

NuttyMcNutty · 03-07-2020 2:00pm

Just heard Maxwell is going to commit suicide in prison.

Fantomas9mm · 03-07-2020 4:47pm

Can it be said that it’s a fair assessment at this point that Jeffrey Epstein was using females to have sexual relations with important and influential people for the purposes of blackmail ?

How accurate is that statement ?
75% correct ?
40% correct ?
Etc.. Etc....

Fantomas9mm · 03-07-2020 4:56pm

enno99 wrote: »

Follow the money

Techno Fog
@Techno_Fog
Ghislaine Maxwell - new info from the US Detention Memo:

1) The grand jury returned the indictment on 6/29/20

2) Maxwell has 15+ bank accounts. Some hold more than $20 million.

3) Transfers of millions $$ to/from Epstein

4) Cash purchase of 156 acre NH Property in 2019

I know this is a conspiracy theory forum
and all but........

How likely do you think that Israel/Mossad are involved somewhere in this ?

Not meaning to be anti Semitic or anything obviously, but considering who Ghislaine Maxwell’s father is , how can they not be involved in some way ?

drunkmonkey · 04-07-2020 4:16pm

Qanon are pretty sure the Clintons are done for with the whole Epstein saga...what say ye?

Cheerful Spring2 · 05-07-2020 1:23pm

enno99 wrote: »

Interesting when you look at Barrs involvement in that episode
The swamp is deep and intertwined
Just have to hope that crimes against children is where some of them draw the line

My view here is Barr and Trump wanted rid of Berman when he was firmly exploring, taking action against Trump and his colleagues in The White House during an election year and is supported by the Democratic party. I don’t think the plan was to be rid of him over the Epstein case?

Struss seems the likely reason this arrest happened so fast. Her bio indicates she is a campaigner who hates crime, deceit, corruption, and would not stone wall a conviction here for Epstein accomplices.

Trump draining the swamp language you see online for me is laughable when he refused to release all JFK files in its entirely unredacted and has appointed and handed government appointments to warhawks and conversative neocons. Pompeo still there and that says a lot about Trump mindset.

Trump not entirely wrong in everything he says, the mainstream news are bias and will not always report the facts. I think the Russian/ Trump collusion event shows how media can influence people to think in a certain way. They had people believing Trump was a Kremlin spy and Putin placed Trump in the White house and well educated people believed it still to this day:rolleyes:

enno99 · 05-07-2020 3:35pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

My view here is Barr and Trump wanted rid of Berman when he was firmly exploring, taking action against Trump and his colleagues in The White House during an election year and is supported by the Democratic party. I don’t think the plan was to be rid of him over the Epstein case?

Struss seems the likely reason this arrest happened so fast. Her bio indicates she is a campaigner who hates crime, deceit, corruption, and would not stone wall a conviction here for Epstein accomplices.

Trump draining the swamp language you see online for me is laughable when he refused to release all JFK files in its entirely unredacted and has appointed and handed government appointments to warhawks and conversative neocons. Pompeo still there and that says a lot about Trump mindset.

Trump not entirely wrong in everything he says, the mainstream news are bias and will not always report the facts. I think the Russian/ Trump collusion event shows how media can influence people to think in a certain way. They had people believing Trump was a Kremlin spy and Putin placed Trump in the White house and well educated people believed it still to this day:rolleyes:

If she is a tenacious as you say they would remove her also. No guarantee she wont continue with Berman,s objective

Im more inclined to think he has been given bad advice from the start Sessions,Rosenstein and others around him

Setting up General fylnn was necessary to leave him exposed to bad advice

Hes fighting on 3 fronts Dems and Rinos and corrupt media

Re JFK what would accomplish now except expose them and make people want to tear down the government that he says hes trying to reform

I dont know lol its complex

Yes a lot of people should understand now the control media has over them inc the likes of twitter, facebook etc

SlowMotion321 · 07-07-2020 1:58pm

NuttyMcNutty wrote: »

Just heard Maxwell is going to commit suicide in prison.

Going to be suicided! Good enough for the bitch, just as long as she names names before they get to her!

4068ac1elhodqr · 07-07-2020 7:13pm

There was a TV documentary on earlier this week (Quest & dplay) called "Who Killed Jeffrey Epstein?".
Filled with some shocking stuff about Epstein, and the failure of authorities to nail the sucker.

One crazy claim made early in the show was that he was said to have 'cursed' a pregnant reporter who attempted to break the story.

This could well tie-in with his sickness and satanic artworks and scupltures. whiles these folks are evil by default (along with the Maxwells),
there are already suggestions of dark arts/voodoo in practice in DC (Hilary's friend: Podesta and his spirit cooking stuff with Satanist: Marina Abramovic).

Cheerful Spring2 · 08-07-2020 5:58pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Qanon are pretty sure the Clintons are done for with the whole Epstein saga...what say ye?

You got a hint in the end of this movie who Bill Clinton, real employer, is!

Fantomas9mm · 11-07-2020 9:57am

https://twitter.com/unicornplushy/status/1281247986056601604?s=21

The Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein controversy.

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