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01-07-2008, 10:26   #16
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Now obviously all my comments are from my experience in general but even my most water phobic swimmers have gotten that far after 10 weeks. As long as you make all of the lessons and try everything then you‘ll defiantly excel beyond that.

Within a 10 week program you will probably get as far as swimming for short distances [~10-15m] at a time, kicking on your front and maybe with arms. You will probably also be kicking on your back and maybe some arm strokes.

As everyone is individual you could conquer all or some of these or maybe excel beyond this. But floating and buoyancy should be the first thing you learn. That’ll comprise most of your first lesson – floating, body position and getting comfortable in the water.

Good luck and enjoy it.

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Thank you
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Benibus "Keep at it. I'm 39, learned a couple of years ago and usually do 60-64 lengths (1500m or a mile) in under 30 minutes. I hit a wall at the 10 lap stage and it took a while to get beyond it but from there I was able to increase the distance more easily."
that is really impressive , it gives me such hope .

I was just wondering is self training just a bad idea ???, see the problem i have is that i can swim ( not very well-about 30 laps in 20 minutes) but there is room for loads of improvement and the pool near me only does adult beginners lessons and no private courses , i really want to improve because i am doing a sprint triathlon in september and really want to do well

I got some tips on the internet to improve my technique and this is part of my self training plan
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Where are you based ?
The National Aquatic Centre in Blanchardstown have lessons for all lessons, and you can also book private lessons.
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the nearest one to me is aura leisure centre in carrick on shannon co leitrim
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the nearest one to me is aura leisure centre in carrick on shannon co leitrim

This is where I am learning...there are improvers lessons going on too.
They have just started a new round two weeks ago, the next set will be in September.
I want to bring a friend next week and apparently that will be ok.
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whoo thanka alot , maybe i can join on , maybe i will see you there , well you will know me first if i am the only one joining
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whoo thanka alot , maybe i can join on , maybe i will see you there , well you will know me first if i am the only one joining
I'd get on to them fairly lively if I were you.
You won't be with me though......I'm in the sinking section!
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Hi, need a little help/advice.

4 months ago i badly injured my knee and had an operation etc(i play a team sport at a pretty high level) and have only just been allowed to exercise again. As swimming is low impact i have decided to use it to get my fitness back and re build some muscle i've lost.

I started swimming in a 25m pool bout a week ago and i've gone 4 time doing 50 laps in about 25 mins then i do a few 'sprints' at the end to get me puffing a bit. I feel im going at a decent pace and am really enjoying it(having not exercised in so long i'm loving the burn in my shoulders at the end of aswim). I can't swim breaststroke cuz of my knee so just swim freestyle. Does anyone know how this translates to running etc? i am feeling tired by the end of a swim but not as out of breath as i would be running. Also can i expect an increase in my strength doing what im doing and in what areas?

Sorry to ask so many q's but want to make sure what im doing is worthwhile.

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Ps i should mention i swan alot as a kid but gave up competitive stuff at about 13 to pllay other sports so my technique is fairly good(until the final 5 laps!)
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In my experience, the translation of swimming fitness/ability to running doesn’t really happen. In swimming you aren’t supporting your full body weight and also the muscle groups being used are all over the body [obviously depending on your stroke].

It is a great exercise for an all body work out and will defiantly help maintain some of your cardio fitness but I wouldn’t expect you to be able to go back to running and last your full match. From what you are saying, it seems that you are using your upper body strength to do the majority of the work [burning shoulders]. Or it may be that your legs have much more stamina so you’re feeling it in your upper body first? To build up your legs, I start to introduce some localised exercises for them. Try doing some kick and catch-up to complement your distance work. This will help you to develop your legs more and will hopefully be of much better benefit when you go back to your normal training.

Make sure to ease in the kick as it can be quite tough and you don’t want to set yourself back any more.
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Clseeper.

I'm trying to get the front crawl.
As soon as I try to bring the arms into it, I automatically stop kicking.
Have you any tips?
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Yeah, kick more

This is a tough one and a common problem. It quite a skill and demonstration of coordination to try and kick while using your arms and then to try and kick ~3 times faster than the pace of your arms is the next one.

There's not much you can really do apart from practice and perseverance. Maybe start with the kick and build up some speed and then bring in the arms but keep thinking about your legs.

Potentially the catch-up drill could help, as long as you do it correctly. The catch-up drill is more for your legs. This could help get you used to the coordination of the arms and legs?
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breathing?

hows it going folks? i had lessons a while ago to learn to swim properly. i've been jumping off piers etc all my life so i don't really have a fear of the water (unless, of course, i fell out of a boat. miles from land. at night. jeeesus) anywho, my problem is i cant seem to swim for any decent length of time without having to stop to catch my breath. i'm not tired at this stage just really breathless. having read through the thread a couple of people have mentioned breathing too deeply. is this a common problem? at the minute i breathe on the fourth stroke. i've tried every second stroke and every third stroke but dont find any improvement.
anyone got any tips?
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No breathing too deeply is not a problem, as long as your mouth is clear of the water. Your lack of breath is just your fitness and your body saying you need air. It seems like you just need to improve your breathing technique and then you should see some real strides forward.

Have a read of some of the threads on breathing and see if any apply to what you may be doing.
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ok thanks for that. i had a look through some of the past threads and picked up a few pointers. at the moment i breathe out through my mouth, from what i've read i should probably be breathing out through my nose. i'll try it for a while anyway and see if i notice any changes
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