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Famous Irish person

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    McGregor if you are under the age of 25 and into that rubbish.

    A few years ago a guy over here (England) went on about McGregor to me and I genuinely had no idea who he was on about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    Kylta wrote: »
    All men. Have we no famous women?




    Anna Geary....:D


    Whoever she is.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Homelander wrote: »
    McGregor has completely transcended the sport he's in and is just a global name/brand. Bit like Ronaldo in Soccer, or the way Schumacher was in F1, Tiger Woods in golf, etc.

    When people that become that big, they generally cross all borders, age brackets and interest groups. People generally know of them, even if they've no interest in the sport in which they compete.

    There are very few 70 years old who don't know who Conor McGregor is, even if they've never watched him fight, or have no interest in ever doing so, because he's just such commanded such a global reach now.

    No-one has to like him but he's easily the most famous Irish people on the planet at the moment, even if the height of his fame stems from infamy rather than achievements.

    People tend to often get irritated when McGregor is mentioned, as if his perceived lack of worthiness in having achieved that fame renders it invalid, but it doesn't.

    Like really, making claims like Robbie Keane being the most famous Irish man in the world are plain absurd.

    Bull****, if he was another nationality, very few in Ireland would even know who he is. Up there with Ronaldo and Tiger Woods?? :pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭piplip87


    How do you measure how famous an Irish person is ? How much hate they get in Ireland would be a good way to start.


    I'd say Bono is still the the most famous Irish Person in the world. McGregor is possibly close but has not over taken Bono.

    As for women. I'd say Dolores is up there. After her death the outpouring of sympathy from the American rock community was something else. I was apart of a good few band fan groups on social media they all knew her and knew of the Cranberries. Although they were much more famous abroad than they were here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Homelander wrote: »
    McGregor has completely transcended the sport he's in and is just a global name/brand. Bit like Ronaldo in Soccer, or the way Schumacher was in F1, Tiger Woods in golf, etc.

    .


    A few people I can think of that have transcended their sport (relatively recent):-

    - Roger Federer
    - Le Bron James (maybe)
    - Messi & Ronaldo
    - Tiger Woods
    - Venus Williams
    - Usain Bolt

    Conor McTapper ain't on my list personally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,438 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Bull****, if he was another nationality, very few in Ireland would even know who he is. Up there with Ronaldo and Tiger Woods?? :pac::pac::pac:

    You don't have to like him, but to actually pretend like he's not globally well known is just farcical.

    It's actually a weird form of delusion to be honest.

    Boxing match with Floyd Mayweather 2nd highest PPV of all-time, his various scandals were carried on news-desks all over the world, but sure, no-one's really heard of him.
    McGregor is yesterdays man and will be remembered,if at all, as "that gob****e on the telly"

    To be honest I'm not claiming he'll have a lasting legacy or continue to be famous, more in this moment of time he's certainly up there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    U2 arent that famous anymore. So not Bono. Probably in terms of total countries in the world who know his name, McGregor might be there.

    Eoin Morgan is known by billions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    Homelander wrote: »
    You don't have to like him, but to actually pretend like he's not globally well known is just farcical.
    .

    Yeh, he has for some reason transcended the sport which is a minor sport to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,438 ✭✭✭Homelander


    I completely agree and he has global reach like no other MMA fighter's ever had before, which he's deliberately cultivated since day one.

    He's a bit like the "Hulk Hogan" of the MMA world - a face that even people who have zero interest or, or any knowledge of, MMA, recognize and associate with it.

    You could mention pretty much any current UFC division champion to a room of average, off-the-street people and they wouldn't know who you were talking about in most cases.

    99% of people on the street in Ireland know who McGregor is. Most people in the world have heard of McGregor. Particularly in North America, South America, and Europe, he's extremely well known, but he's well known globally.

    Claims of "he's not known by people over 25" or "if he wasn't Irish we'd never have heard of him" are just really strange manifestations of such blind hatred for the man that they can't accept facts.

    You see the usual guff over on the MMA forum from certain posters as well - he's a big fraud, crap fighter, his record of 22-4 with 19 KO's is all fake, etc.

    They'll perform olympic level mental gymnastics to discredit the man. Like, fine, he's a massive tool, but facts are facts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,161 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    FVP3 wrote: »

    Eoin Morgan is known by billions.

    Never heard of him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Homelander wrote: »
    You don't have to like him, but to actually pretend like he's not globally well known is just farcical.

    It's actually a weird form of delusion to be honest.

    Boxing match with Floyd Mayweather 2nd highest PPV of all-time, his various scandals were carried on news-desks all over the world, but sure, no-one's really heard of him.



    To be honest I'm not claiming he'll have a lasting legacy or continue to be famous, more in this moment of time he's certainly up there.

    Nothing to do with not liking him tbh, hey maybe im wrong on this score and he is widely known globally but comparing him to Ronaldo and Woods, come on?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 163 ✭✭spring lane jack


    Gerry Adams


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    Never heard of him

    I was excluding you, and most Irish people, from the billions. All fans of cricket would know him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,416 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    FVP3 wrote: »
    U2 arent that famous anymore. So not Bono. Probably in terms of total countries in the world who know his name, McGregor might be there.

    Eoin Morgan is known by billions.

    Good point
    In India and Pakistan alone millions would be aware of him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


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    Good point
    In India and Pakistan alone millions would be aware of him.

    yes, in fact 709 million people watched the 2019 cricket WC live last year. The global cumulative average ( whatever that is) audience was 1.6 billion viewers


    He was captain of the England team, of course.

    https://www.icc-cricket.com/media-releases/1346930


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,666 ✭✭✭quokula


    Homelander wrote: »
    I completely agree and he has global reach like no other MMA fighter's ever had before, which he's deliberately cultivated since day one.

    He's a bit like the "Hulk Hogan" of the MMA world - a face that even people who have zero interest or, or any knowledge of, MMA, recognize and associate with it.

    You could mention pretty much any current UFC division champion to a room of average, off-the-street people and they wouldn't know who you were talking about in most cases.

    99% of people on the street in Ireland know who McGregor is. Most people in the world have heard of McGregor. Particularly in North America, South America, and Europe, he's extremely well known, but he's well known globally.

    Claims of "he's not known by people over 25" or "if he wasn't Irish we'd never have heard of him" are just really strange manifestations of such blind hatred for the man that they can't accept facts.

    You see the usual guff over on the MMA forum from certain posters as well - he's a big fraud, crap fighter, his record of 22-4 with 19 KO's is all fake, etc.

    They'll perform olympic level mental gymnastics to discredit the man. Like, fine, he's a massive tool, but facts are facts.

    Yeah, I've no particular interest in McGregor and have never watched a UFC fight, but anecdotally when travelling in various different parts of the world in the last few years, McGregor was the name that people would bring up when you tell them you're Irish.


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Gage Magnificent Femur


    A few people I can think of that have transcended their sport (relatively recent):-

    - Roger Federer
    - Le Bron James (maybe)
    - Messi & Ronaldo
    - Tiger Woods
    - Venus Williams
    - Usain Bolt

    Conor McTapper ain't on my list personally.

    LeBron - No chance. I'd wager that if you asked everyone on the planet more people would know McGregor.
    Venus - Serena is way more famous.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,265 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Sinead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    LeBron - No chance. I'd wager that if you asked everyone on the planet more people would know McGregor.
    Venus - Serena is way more famous.


    Maybe I meant Serena- the more famous one anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    FVP3 wrote: »
    yes, in fact 709 million people watched the 2019 cricket WC live last year. The global cumulative average ( whatever that is) audience was 1.6 billion viewers


    He was captain of the England team, of course.

    https://www.icc-cricket.com/media-releases/1346930


    He is known for the being the English cricket captain. I am not sure how many would see him as Irish as such which is just as well. If you are lining up for the English team or any other foreign team- you are not Irish.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    FVP3 wrote: »
    U2 arent that famous anymore. So not Bono. Probably in terms of total countries in the world who know his name, McGregor might be there.

    Eoin Morgan is known by billions.
    Who?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Golf is huge in the US, China, Japan etc. And McIlroy is the world no 1 player. Extremely well known.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    Henry Sellers.

    He made the BBC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Jimbob1977 wrote: »
    Henry Sellers.

    He made the BBC


    If you're explaining you're losing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭Archeron


    I'd agree with a previous poster and say Enya must be up there. I'm not into her spooky warbling but she is one of the best selling musical artists of all time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,441 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Collin Farrell. There's a list of successful Irish actors but Farrell has consistently been in the limelight since he broke Hollywood.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Michael O’Leary


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    Edgware wrote: »
    Who?

    Eoin Morgan.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 480 ✭✭ewc78


    FVP3 wrote: »
    Eoin Morgan.

    Who?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,026 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    I don’t want to alarm anyone but there may be an owl, or owls, in the thread.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    Shane Macgowan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    ewc78 wrote: »
    Who?


    Ask your mother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Ask your mother.

    You’ll do nuttin’!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 480 ✭✭ewc78


    Ask your mother.

    She died about 30 years ago when I was 10.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,500 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    Golf is huge in the US, China, Japan etc. And McIlroy is the world no 1 player. Extremely well known.

    It's not huge in China though, but I suppose he wouldn't be a bad shout given that he's the number one in the world at his sport, so I'd say most sports fans would have at least been familiar with the name.

    Bono and U2 are generally not well known in Asia. I'd say Ronan Keating is better known to be honest and that Niall ? fellow who is a singer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭Randy Archer


    Enya would probably be up there, even if we don't hear much from her these days.

    Nearly every hip hop artist out there has sampled her whale music. Listen carefully and you’d see . Eg ready or not by Fugees, and a few more

    Sinead O’Connor would have caused a big stir in the 1990s with the shaved head but pretty face and ripping up the photo of the Pope and being right about the abuse long before many publicly called the church out

    In America, it was definitely Maureen O’Hara (Fitsimmons) ALOT of the Plastic Paddies in the US ,and websites like Irish Central are obsessed about here


  • Registered Users Posts: 981 ✭✭✭mighty magpie


    Rory McIlroy


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭Randy Archer


    LeBron - No chance. I'd wager that if you asked everyone on the planet more people would know McGregor.
    Venus - Serena is way more famous.

    Basketball is the second most watched and played sport globally, after soccer . His the undisputed face of the NBA and has a “storied” background (Yanks love a good story ) NBA is huge in North America and some regions in South America and massive in places like China and Japan AND Australia ,who take basketball seriously . In Europe, surprisingly, there are rather large bastions of Basketballers in places like Spain and ALL of the Baltic Nations & Ex Yougoslavian States ,where b ball is more or less their number one sport ,and Turkey

    As big as Jordan ? With the Nike brand ? Maybe not (the latest trend is Netflix Last Dance , MJ was huge globally )

    Le Bron has people of all races n colour n creed knowing who he is in the US . McGregor ? ,getting there but much of it is white lads claiming to be Orish and anyone who follows MMA .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    ewc78 wrote: »
    She died about 30 years ago when I was 10.


    Well then ask Google.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭Randy Archer


    Riddle101 wrote: »
    Collin Farrell. There's a list of successful Irish actors but Farrell has consistently been in the limelight since he broke Hollywood.

    Colin is a good actor and his film choice in the last decade have been interesting , he’s brilliant in dark comedies eg In Brugge , And Seven Psychopaths the one with Nicole Kidman and the latest Guy Richie film but he failed as a leading man (not his fault ) eg Alexander and Miami Vice. He was more notorious in Hollywood as a “hell raiser “ (without being an arsehole like others ) he’s kinda ,intentionally, shunned the limelight of Hollywood and get his head down and worked on good films that weren’t big big big movies .

    Consistently? Not really but sod the limelight , he’s now an actor with substance , he did after all win a golden globe. In his early days and despite some fine appearances in Minority Report n the war film with Willis n Phone Booth ,he flattered to deceive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,815 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Homelander wrote: »
    McGregor has completely transcended the sport he's in and is just a global name/brand. Bit like Ronaldo in Soccer, or the way Schumacher was in F1, Tiger Woods in golf, etc.

    When people that become that big, they generally cross all borders, age brackets and interest groups. People generally know of them, even if they've no interest in the sport in which they compete.

    There are very few 70 years old who don't know who Conor McGregor is, even if they've never watched him fight, or have no interest in ever doing so, because he's just such commanded such a global reach now.

    No-one has to like him but he's easily the most famous Irish people on the planet at the moment, even if the height of his fame stems from infamy rather than achievements.

    People tend to often get irritated when McGregor is mentioned, as if his perceived lack of worthiness in having achieved that fame renders it invalid, but it doesn't.

    Like really, making claims like Robbie Keane being the most famous Irish man in the world are plain absurd.



    People get irritated when that bloke is mentioned because a lot of people don’t really like him. They see him as quite arrogant, quick to criticize others but slow to acknowledge his own failings. He is constantly seeking the camera and a microphone to spout off about anything... he’s been extremely successful in his sport, but weekly he is just spouting off about people, situations he doesn't like, people he doesn’t agree with. Most intelligent people just find that boring. To be honest, it looks like somebody should take away his iPad and give him the number of a psychologist. If he pops up on tv unless it’s in relation to MMA which even I’ve only a mildish interest in I’m just changing the channel.

    I wouldn’t knock him for his success, in sport, in business but the whole attitude and side show is just meh...

    Being famous isn’t an achievement... usually it’s a bi-product of success, not always, but usually... it’s often too a bi-product of being ‘notorious’.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    Topically probably McGregor, but year on year it's probably Daniel o Donnell. Lot of posters saying Arthur Guinness but I think he was English.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,703 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Topically probably McGregor, but year on year it's probably Daniel o Donnell. Lot of posters saying Arthur Guinness but I think he was English.

    Arthur Guinness was born in Kildare, also found out he had 21 kids!

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,457 ✭✭✭✭Kylta


    Feisar wrote: »
    Arthur Guinness was born in Kildare, also found out he had 21 kids!

    I though he came over with cromwell, then again that could idle gossip over a pint of the black stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,457 ✭✭✭✭Kylta


    Strumms wrote: »
    People get irritated when that bloke is mentioned because a lot of people don’t really like him. They see him as quite arrogant, quick to criticize others but slow to acknowledge his own failings. He is constantly seeking the camera and a microphone to spout off about anything... he’s been extremely successful in his sport, but weekly he is just spouting off about people, situations he doesn't like, people he doesn’t agree with. Most intelligent people just find that boring. To be honest, it looks like somebody should take away his iPad and give him the number of a psychologist. If he pops up on tv unless it’s in relation to MMA which even I’ve only a mildish interest in I’m just changing the channel.

    I wouldn’t knock him for his success, in sport, in business but the whole attitude and side show is just meh...

    Being famous isn’t an achievement... usually it’s a bi-product of success, not always, but usually... it’s often too a bi-product of being ‘notorious’.

    I know because were irish some say we knock our own, we do but I feel its genuinely down to whether we like the individual or not. I don't like mc gregor (I'm not into mma). I don't like jedward, ronan keating and maybe many more. But I'm irish and what I hope for mcgregors sake and anybody irish that makes it big in or out of this country. Is that they don't squander their money and end up broke and down out.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,545 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    Most famous Irish woman might be Sinead O'Conner.
    Right now, most famous person might be Conner alright.

    Similar story to the 3 or 4th post.
    I was in Cambodia circa 2006. The street kids would come up to you trying to sell you books. When they twigged you were Irish they'd say a cupla focal in the mother tongue and also mention Jason Sherlock and Roy Keane. Smart kids but living in abject poverty, getting exploited to sell things to tourists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    Basketball is the second most watched and played sport globally, after soccer . His the undisputed face of the NBA and has a “storied” background (Yanks love a good story ) NBA is huge in North America and some regions in South America and massive in places like China and Japan AND Australia ,who take basketball seriously . In Europe, surprisingly, there are rather large bastions of Basketballers in places like Spain and ALL of the Baltic Nations & Ex Yougoslavian States ,where b ball is more or less their number one sport ,and Turkey

    As big as Jordan ? With the Nike brand ? Maybe not (the latest trend is Netflix Last Dance , MJ was huge globally )

    Le Bron has people of all races n colour n creed knowing who he is in the US . McGregor ? ,getting there but much of it is white lads claiming to be Orish and anyone who follows MMA .

    Basketball is nowhere near the top after soccer, or as I call it football. Its well known that it is big in parts of eastern europe though. Table Tennis is bigger.

    Here is the list ( in terms of self declared fans of the game).

    https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-most-popular-sports-in-the-world.html

    10. Golf - 450 Million Fans
    9. Rugby - 475 Million Fans
    8. Baseball - 500 Million Fans
    7. Basketball - 825 Million Fans
    6. Table Tennis - 875 Million Fans
    5. Volleyball - 900 Million Fans
    4. Tennis - 1 Billion Fans
    3. Field Hockey - 2 Billion Fans
    2. Cricket - 2.5 Billion Fans
    1. Association Football (Soccer) - 4 Billion Fans


  • Registered Users Posts: 855 ✭✭✭moonage


    Bibi Baskin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    FVP3 wrote: »
    Basketball is nowhere near the top after soccer, or as I call it football. Its well known that it is big in parts of eastern europe though. Table Tennis is bigger.

    Here is the list ( in terms of self declared fans of the game).

    https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-most-popular-sports-in-the-world.html

    10. Golf - 450 Million Fans
    9. Rugby - 475 Million Fans
    8. Baseball - 500 Million Fans
    7. Basketball - 825 Million Fans
    6. Table Tennis - 875 Million Fans
    5. Volleyball - 900 Million Fans
    4. Tennis - 1 Billion Fans
    3. Field Hockey - 2 Billion Fans
    2. Cricket - 2.5 Billion Fans
    1. Association Football (Soccer) - 4 Billion Fans

    That must have been some survey to get that many responses.


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭Randy Archer


    FVP3 wrote: »
    Basketball is nowhere near the top after soccer, or as I call it football. Its well known that it is big in parts of eastern europe though. Table Tennis is bigger.

    Here is the list ( in terms of self declared fans of the game).

    https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-most-popular-sports-in-the-world.html

    10. Golf - 450 Million Fans
    9. Rugby - 475 Million Fans
    8. Baseball - 500 Million Fans
    7. Basketball - 825 Million Fans
    6. Table Tennis - 875 Million Fans
    5. Volleyball - 900 Million Fans
    4. Tennis - 1 Billion Fans
    3. Field Hockey - 2 Billion Fans
    2. Cricket - 2.5 Billion Fans
    1. Association Football (Soccer) - 4 Billion Fans

    And those figures in the WESTERN WORLD are ? You know, the only part of the world that matters, baby

    Cricket ,lol, (yes you are correct) but mostly second and third world despots like India n Pakistan . Table tennis, China (ya, i know, i did mention them and their support of the NBA)

    Who is watching the world field hockey championship ? (Nice sport btw) or Volley ball ? (What channel does that, Eurosport ?)


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