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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭tnegun


    From experience, DB won't tell you anything beyond the video was forwarded to the depot manager for investigation, if you want more you'll have to go to AGS even then I've given up as you have to do all the leg work e.g. attend to report, come back to give a statement and possibly go to court if they dispute it.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Just on GDPR, you can request the on board video where you are in the frame, so if they have a few cameras, you can get a few angles (no idea how many there are on a bus)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭tnegun


    From memory, I got views of the driver, out both doors, front, back and both flanks of the bus the newer busses are quite well covered!



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    How can they claim GDPR for not giving you CCTV footage when you're literally entitled to footage of yourself because it counts as personal information? Anyone can request CCTV footage of themselves from anywhere and it must be provided free of charge within 30 days.

    Whether they comply or not is a different story...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,260 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Thanks for all the replies. I was not after video from them as my own is sufficient.

    My issue is they won't tell me anything other than the driver was interviewed. Saying outcome is protected by GDPR and HR policy. My point is, I dont know, need or want to know the driver name so what is the privacy issue. I would just like to know what the outcome as I dont think they treat these serious if there is no injury. The outcome could be provided and stíl preserve the employees privacy. It happens with WRC cases all the time, which are normally reported anonymous. Why would the same not apply here?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ah yeah, that's different, they don't have to divulge that info as it's internal.

    If you escalate to the Gardai on the other hand



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    he deliberately tags the BBC presenter jeremy vine in a lot of his tweets, who often shares them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    There's a certain level of showmanship that goes into making the videos, I suspect with this target audience in mind. There's 3 or 4 junctions he has multiple videos of the same type of near miss happening. Drivers always at fault of course, but you'd think a sense of self preservation would eventually kick in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,721 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Ah that makes sense, it’s an absolute cesspit with them all parroting the whole Tory argument of unlicensed cyclists etc



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭PhillySteak9


    How about this overtake from last Sunday by a Parcel King courier van?




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    to be fair, it's not the most dramatic i've seen; how far was he from you? his right wheel was on the grass verge on the other side of the road.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    He looked like he was afraid of you! Nothing wrong with that overtake.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭PhillySteak9


    Fair enough so - looks like I'm too sensitive. 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    It's poor driving to overtake with off side of van effectively crossing the mouth of at least two private entrances, but he's a decent distance from you



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,290 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Popped over to my mam's earlier and on the return journey, I decided to wander around the Phoenix Park.

    Coming down Military Rd past the Chapelizod entrance with the intention of heading up Upper Glen Rd, a driver who just came into the park turned towards me (map), clearly without looking despite me having right of way and she having two big red STOP signs (and a painted one on the ground). Not sure how I managed to avoid a collision - she seems to have turned right into the lane I was in but I managed to swing to my right where there was a bit of space. She pulled in a little further up and I turned up after her. In fairness she was quite apologetic but then said something which took me by surprise: "I probably should have stopped at the Stop sign". I was momentarily lost for words when I heard the "probably" bit but I managed to say something like "no, you should have stopped at the sign as that's why they're called Stop signs".



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭De Bhál


    The speed they take off up the road would be the only thing I see wrong in that clip



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i think someone has taken a price out on my head. three near misses in a 50km cycle, all from people pulling out of minor roads without looking. two of them happened in the space of just over 230m. at least one may have popped a tyre on kerb after swerving with fright when he realised i was there.

    and that's not counting white van man who was beeping at me and giving me the fingers, even though he did this coming towards me and we'd had no cause to interact in any way at all.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    this is where the one happened where the driver clipped the kerb; i was headed in the direction the camera is facing, which is northbound (and downhill, so you pick up a bit of speed) through garristown. from the minor road to the right, a van was taking a left and a lad in a blue peugeot (407 maybe?) was taking a right; i copped the peugeot but he was partially obscured by the van and in hindsight clearly didn't have a clear field of view up towards me, so i'd already started to brake; but he pulled out, copped i was there, and swung left and clipped the kerb probably a little further on from where the merc is parked on the left hand side.

    https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5673168,-6.3834362,3a,75y,34.47h,83.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sn1QdiBVX_axj_FvJ9LwGAQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭Mundo7976


    I cut short my cycle yesterday around the same area. Im assuming people are frustrated & oblivious due to them looking for alternative routes due to the road works along the N2 & up at the snailbox. Had a few very close passes & a di(khead in a beemer do a uturn about 100m in front of me at the snailbox, not a f(uk given 🙄 thankfully I was only trundling uphill!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    the other two happened in ballyboughal; one guy pulled out in front of me at the junction at o'connor's/the village inn (that was close enough), and then half a minute later, i was following maybe 30m or 40m behind an SUV who was turning right towards oldtown (as was i) and the driver of a white souped up audi waited for the SUV to pass, then gunned it out and came within maybe a metre or two of hitting me side on.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭mmrs


    Not a near miss but twice over the last month or so I've had drivers have a go at me for not using cycle lanes. The first instance there was no cycle lane, the driver beeped at me and made some aggressive hand gestures. I usually ignore this stuff as I find it irritates me and puts me off for the rest of my cycle. I caught up to this fella who was stuck in traffic and nocked on his passenger window. I asked him what his issue was. I calmly explained I am not required to use a cycle lane (especially non-existent ones) and in fact he misused his horn. Felt good, he was a gobshite and he knew it.


    The second instance a Mrs Bucket type lady pulled up beside me and asked did I know there was a cycle lane beside me (a useless one) and I asked her (kind of politely) did she know I'm not required to use a cycle lane even if it is available. She told me I was a danger to myself. This is all while she was driving alongside me in a housing estate, not paying proper attention to the road so that she could vent at me. She then drove off at speed and I shouted some expletives her way. This got me riled up.


    I've feel since lockdowns have ended some drivers see it as their duty to be **** to cyclists. Still I love cycling and my commute!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,631 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    Thank god I was slowing down for the yield sign anyway. 🤣




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭BoardsMember




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭Etc


    There are several points along that track where I automatically slow down in anticipation of a potential issue, that's one of them, the stretch at Vernon avenue at the pumphouse, you have people crossing the road and not looking and people getting out of their cars at the carpark. The other one is the car park opposite Clontarf garage.

    I wouldn't see that one as a near miss, rather a predictable hazard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,631 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    Yeah, I know what you mean. The stretch at the pump house can be particularly bad, and it's a yield coming in at both sides. A lot of cyclists seem to barrel through there regardless.

    The carpark opposite the bus garage was deadly, when the bushes completely obscured the cycle track for motorists trying to enter. At least it's trimmed back now.

    When there's people on the track, I tend to ring my bell continuously, from a distance, at a slow enough rate. So it's a low bell that alerts them for a distance hopefully.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    the passing motorists favourite spot in my neck of the woods in Castleknock - never fails to attract morons, despite the 1.5m passing sign.

    https://goo.gl/maps/ETGrH3SKkDubDeLm8

    Today it was the turn of some numb nut in a Honda CRV - the oncoming car had to stop and flash / beep. He them proceeded to overtake 5 cars in the stretch of the phoenix park between Castleknock gates and the first roundabout. The three drivers behind him thought it was such a good idea, they followed - the last one barely making it in before the roundabout.

    I can't really see how there's any other solution to calm speed in the Phoenix Park other than by speed ramps down Chesterfield Avenue - whether the limit is is 30kph or 50 kph limit, they're constantly ignored.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,255 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Chesterfield ave is too straight. No matter what they do, cars will always exceed the speed limit. Personally I think traffic from the city should be directed around the military road and the traffic into the city from Castleknock directed onto the North road. Put chicanes, speed ramps and pinch points all along both the north and military roads and that would slow the traffic. It would also ruin the park for everyone so won’t happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭standardg60


    To be honest i'd be on the road there with all that hassle



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,631 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    Lots of lights to contend with on the road. And then aggressive drivers cause you aren't using the cycle lane.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Bit of a red mist incident on the bike today. Cycling from the nine mile roundabout near Ashbourne, towards donaghmore church, a guy in a white mondeo overtook me on a blind bend and pulled back in on top of me when a car came along the bend at him, probably came with a metre of me. I sent him some hand signals and he slowed down and reciprocated. Some points of view were exchanged, and some more hand signals and he drove off. A woman in a blue Audi passed me a couple of hundred metres later (safely) and gave me a big thumbs up and a friendly wave.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    Someone beside me in an advance stop area in a lx400 jeepythiny(c)(r)(tm) accelerated off the lights on the way home from work last week. You'd like to think it would have enough power to clear a cyclist, but not so it turns out so the driver squeezed in on me. Anyway, cue beeping, but from the car behind.


    Eventually the Lexus gets enough room free from oncoming traffic, as does the car behind who i gave the :shrug to and got some sort of "warning" comment.


    At the next lights, i stop beside the car and the driver says "i could see what was going to happen, they were never going to pass and I could've sworn you were going to be taken out". So, fair play to them, i apologised for doubting them and made my way past the Lexus and on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭patrickc


    I don't do the camera on the bike thing, but yesterday a 40ft truck overtook me and a car was oncoming, his trailer was so close to me when he pulled back in, that was a scary moment!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 748 ✭✭✭Paul_Mc1988




  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭First_October


    Was cycling up near Glencree this morning when a guy on a big white horse tried to take me out! As I cycled up to him he started screaming abuse at me at the top of his lungs. Called me a dirty c@nt and all manner of things. As I passed he got his horse to walk across the road and right out in front of me! Got the impression he was trying to make me crash or get the horse to rear up on top of me. I'm still a bit shocked by the whole incident. Seemed to be a complete nutjob; be careful if you come across this guy on your spins!



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,290 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Thankfully not me but I witnessed what would have been an horrific incident yesterday while out on the bike.

    I stopped at the junction at the top of Ash Hill (between Maynooth & Dunboyne) having come from Kilcloon (map link). A JCB farm loader with the long silage bale tines sticking out up high was coming up the hill to my right and a large tractor & trailer coming along on the left. Both moving at a decent pace. The loader driver flicked on his indicators to turn to his left (to head down the lane I had just come) but for whatever reason steered to his right meaning the tines were heading straight for the cab of the tractor. With milliseconds to spare, the loader driver turned left and down the lane. The vision of the tractor driver with his arms covering his head is still crystal clear in my mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,652 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    It never ceases to amaze me the way some idiots drive with bale spikes or buckrakes.

    Spikes should be turned back in towards your own engine.

    These guys driving around with them at car (bike) level or as above, tractor/truck cab level should be put off the road.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal



    Had a pheasant fly out of a ditch a few years back and was so close some of the wing feathers hit my arm, scared the crap out of me at the time. Earlier on the same ride a white fan almost knocked me off the bike and just missed me by 2 inches.

    Part of me was very thankful when I go home 😂



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Had a close pass from a guy in a red Jeep near oldtown earlier, overtook around a blind bend and there was an oncoming car. The chap in the car behind pulled alongside after and shouted out the window 'Christ, they're all out tonight, aren't they?'



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    I was once talking to a chap, who on the same road I mentioned in the post above, came within a few feet of colliding with a red kite. It burst out of the ditch as he approached and it scared the daylights out of him. They're big beasts.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,050 ✭✭✭cletus


    This is not a near miss, but I don't know where else it belongs.

    Driving out of work yesterday, a colleague was ahead of me in his car, and there was a bicycle in front of him.

    My colleague kept a nice distance back, good overtake, plenty of space given, basically what you'd want in an overtake.

    Having a cup of tea with him in the staffroom this morning, and he told me he was super conscious of overtaking the cyclist, because he knew I was behind him.

    Can't figure out whether it's a good thing or a bad thing 🤷‍♂️😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭hesker




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,226 ✭✭✭RobertFoster


    I hope you told him you're omnipotent and the next time he's behind a cyclist he should think WWCD (What would cletus do?)



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Hopefully it's a good thing. A friend of mine said they were conscious of passing cyclists when driving to work because of all the issues I had on the bike, used to have GoPro footage of my commutes which really showed him how sketchy things can be from my point of view.

    Unfortunately most people don't know or don't care. I always glance at the rear view when I pass a cyclist to see how others pass, they rarely get more than an inch over the line when moving over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,159 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    Cycling in from Parkgate St towards the quays this morning at 06:30 and at Wolftone Quay (here: https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.347412,-6.2902263,3a,75y,105.12h,72.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-16pGzQtZgjZ8FaUTsX2Sg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) using the narrow and poorly surfaced dedicated cycle lane there was a cyclist in front of me so had reduced speed. Silver Prius left hooked us and cyclist in front nearly went over the handlebars with rear wheel off the road trying to brake in time. I’m covered in high vis with two rear lights and a strong front light used to light dark country roads so he saw us but proceeded anyway so I let a shout and he stopped after he’d completed his turn. He then got out of his car to defend his decision and was adamant he had right of way and that cyclists had to yield to him and for some reason he kept pointing at the sign above which is No Left Turn from 07:00 – 10:00, Mon – Sat. Calmer than I’d usually be since it wasn’t too much of a close pass for me and it’s a section I’d always be weary off I just said if you’re that stupid you can plead your case with the guards which he was very willing to do. Will log a call with traffic watch later with the details and his registration since it’s something he’ll do again with his might is right ruling.

    In the UK he would be a typical candidate for A Driver’s Awareness course but here nothing will happen since he didn’t kill anyone. Hopefully the guard can at least advise him as there was no point in me arguing with him this morning so I continued on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,260 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    I had a very close call today which was both a near miss and a fall. I was left hooked from behind while doing about 30kmph. I had to go with the vehicle to avoid crashing into it. Falling was unavoidable.

    I landed on my shoulder and elbow mainly and slid on rough road. No fractures but lots of road rash on forearm and calf plus bruises and a sore neck. I am sore but better off than an impact. I was checked over by ambulance service. I may need to get a scan on my neck. Shorts. Jersey torn.

    Though I fell, I guess it's a near miss through my own quick reactions., I avoided the impact collission. Not that this makes it in anyway a good outcome, just better than it may otherwise have been. Fate is dictated by split seconds



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,290 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Hopefully there won't be any injuries or pains that surface later. Is your bike ok?

    At a minimum, get the driver to cover any medical costs and costs to replace your clothing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,159 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    They don't make it easy, rang Traffic Watch this morning and logged above but they called back some time later asking me to call Bridewell Garda station also. I tried that a number of times and was on endless hold once I got through the switchboard operator.

    Bridewell have an Email this Garda Station option on their website so filled out the online form with the details so hopefully someone eventually sees it and responds. They do advise "The email account is monitored periodically during standard business hours." If the email is viewed and acted upon it would be a useful means of reporting incidents, everything in writing and saves trying to get someone on the phone or worse in person for them to write everything down.



  • Site Banned Posts: 20,686 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Some cretin squeezed past me in drumcondra just before fagans. Then pointed to the cycle lane without a hint of irony given he'd been on my arse in the bus lane



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,260 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Thanks. I think it's all grazes, bumps etc. Lucky. I will be stiff and sore but hopefully that's it. I have driver details. They were deeply apologetic and said they would pay my bills and repairs. They accept was a massive error of judgement/poor driving. I think it is taken as very good lesson in what not to do. If this saves a more serious incident, what more can you dom. 5 seconds to wait is ultimately better a serious impact with a cyclist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Heading up Ballinascorney hill a couple of years ago a deer leapt off the bank high above me on the left and ran across the road literally five feet in front of me, got such a fright i stopped, which was just as well as it was quickly followed by two more.



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