Who are these people?

custard gannet · 21-09-2015 4:33pm #1

The other day I was down doing the shopping and there were two families in there together. They appeared East European, but not typically East European at the same time. The men wore kind of, well, it is a bit hard to describe, nearly a bit like something some lad backpacking across India might adopt, or maybe a bit of a dirty hipster look. The women wore clothes that looked like something from the 1800's, not unlike these women

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutterite#/media/File:Hutterite_Sunset.jpg

As for their appearance, they seemed to have zero make up, wore glasses, their hair was somewhat uncared for (a bit greying, no dye used, all in all they didn't look like they'd be getting a part in a Pantene advert). Also, the children (there were three boys) all had a sort of very light and stringy rat tail going halfway down the neck, a bit like the one Orthodox Jews have on their sides, but on their back neck, one was plaited. All in all you got the impression that probably engaged in relative marriage and almost certainly some sort of religious puritans, they just had that look. I would have guessed maybe Hare Krishnas either but as far as I recall their men are fully bald and the women wear colourful clothing, not to mention that they, to my knowledge, grow most of their own food and presumably would have any outside food needed bought in bulk for the colony.

They seem to be a very rare group whoever they are, but I have seen them before at least once or twice in the last decade. The closest they struck me as being aligned to would be this lot, but from the article they seem to be almost entirely Canadian based

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutterite#Colonies

Not planning to hunt these lot down or anything, I was just wondering if anyone knows who/ what these folks are

Quite a lot of films and TV episodes have had plots around these secret religious tribes like the Amish in the US so I'm not the only one with a strange curiosity about it :pac:

Sunnyisland · 21-09-2015 4:45pm

Probably up for the match.

dodderangler · 21-09-2015 5:18pm

Kerry people

Turtyturd · 21-09-2015 5:20pm

Jedi.

pmasterson95 · 21-09-2015 5:21pm

Hipsters

cerastes · 21-09-2015 5:22pm

hunt them down, lols
anyway, we dont like your kind around here, boyyy, banjo ie music, toothyless grin

BoatMad · 21-09-2015 5:23pm

these secret religious tribes like the Amish in the US

Amish , secret, em..... no seriously dude !

The King of Moo · 21-09-2015 5:23pm

THE SYRIANS ARE HERE!!!

endacl · 21-09-2015 5:25pm

The King of Moo wrote: »

THE SYRIANS ARE HERE!!!

SYRIASLY?!?

dandyelevan · 21-09-2015 5:31pm

"New Age" Travellers ?
They can be seen about the Midlands a lot. Mostly English folk. Harmless.

bodhrandude · 21-09-2015 5:51pm

You didn't stumble into the Body & Soul festival by any chance?

custard gannet · 21-09-2015 5:54pm

BoatMad wrote: »

Amish , secret, em..... no seriously dude !

Secretive I should have said, not secret.:)

Don't think they were New Age travelers, they tend to be English and Welsh from my experience, as said this lot looked East European, but sort of inbred East European

Just their general attire gave off the impression of puritan living Christians from one of the fringe groups.

dandyelevan · 21-09-2015 5:56pm

Could be those Dingle Oirish relatives from Emmerdale ?

meeeeh · 21-09-2015 6:18pm

custard gannet wrote: »

Secretive I should have said, not secret.:)

Don't think they were New Age travelers, they tend to be English and Welsh from my experience, as said this lot looked East European, but sort of inbred East European Just their general attire gave off the impression of puritan living Christians from one of the fringe groups.

Unless they were Roma I can't think of any puritan christian groups in Eastern Europe. I might be mistaken but I would say most of that kind of stuff was wiped out during 45 years of communism.

Valetta · 21-09-2015 6:26pm

It's quite worrying.

What shopping did you get, again ?

custard gannet · 21-09-2015 6:42pm

meeeeh wrote: »

Unless they were Roma I can't think of any puritan christian groups in Eastern Europe. I might be mistaken but I would say most of that kind of stuff was wiped out during 45 years of communism.

Certainly weren't Roma. As said they looked like some sort of old timey religious community.

Reiver · 22-09-2015 12:05am

There's Amish in Waterford.

Failing that, migrants. I hope you contacted Pegida or Identity Ireland.

garrixfan · 22-09-2015 3:50am

Reiver wrote: »

There's Amish in Waterford.

Failing that, migrants. I hope you contacted Pegida or Identity Ireland.

I looked that up expecting somehow there was a group of German descent Irish Amish living in Waterford but turns out that its just a load of Americans doing missionary work.

Teyla Emmagan · 22-09-2015 6:07am

Reiver wrote: »

There's Amish in Waterford.

Failing that, migrants. I hope you contacted Pegida or Identity Ireland.

They're Mennonites, actually. They have a pretty boring website if anyone wants to look it up. They're in Portlaw.

testicle · 22-09-2015 6:32am

So did you DNA test these people to see if they were "inbred" or are you just a racist cünt?

Flippyfloppy · 22-09-2015 6:47am

custard gannet wrote: »

East European, but sort of inbred East European

Putting a smiley face at the end of an offensive statement doesn't undo it! Stop pressing the topic! And stop stalking people so much you could do Efits of them after!

mulbot · 22-09-2015 6:48am

testicle wrote: »

So did you DNA test these people to see if they were "inbred" or are you just a racist cünt?

BoatMad · 22-09-2015 12:47pm

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

They're Mennonites, actually. They have a pretty boring website if anyone wants to look it up. They're in Portlaw.

oh yes met some of those a few years ago , very nice people.

kylith · 22-09-2015 12:52pm

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

They're Mennonites, actually. They have a pretty boring website if anyone wants to look it up. They're in Portlaw.

Yeah, used to see them around.

I fail to see the OP's point though; is it just idle curiosity about what sect these people are or what? Who cares, like?

William F · 22-09-2015 12:55pm

Romanian beggars?

custard gannet · 22-09-2015 12:56pm

Flippyfloppy wrote: »

Putting a smiley face at the end of an offensive statement doesn't undo it! Stop pressing the topic! And stop stalking people so much you could do Efits of them after!

Well if you could be bothered to do any research you would find that due to the fact few if any people in North America convert to old world Christian sects like the Amish, Hurrities and Mennonites, they are almost entirely descended from fringe Christian groups driven out of Europe centuries ago, and that they typically marry people from within a very small geographical area and only from within their own faith, which very often means members of the community share a grandparent or a great grandparent somewhere down the line. These groups tend to have higher rates of infant mortality and congenital illness than the regular population. Orthodox Jews do it to a heavy extent as well, which tends to make their women a great deal less good looking than regular Jewish/ Israeli women.

testicle wrote: »

So did you DNA test these people to see if they were "inbred" or are you just a racist cünt?

Haha, if you are looking for political correctness you are dealing with the wrong man my friend :pac: Having said that there was really no need to ban this lad, he can say what he likes for all I care.

Kev W · 22-09-2015 12:57pm

William F wrote: »

Romania beggars?

Where are you getting "beggars" from in the OP's description?

custard gannet · 22-09-2015 1:01pm

kylith wrote: »

Yeah, used to see them around.

I fail to see the OP's point though; is it just idle curiosity about what sect these people are or what? Who cares, like?

I just find it interesting that there are religious cultures out there who largely eschew the modern world and live so alternatively. Some of the Amish and what not don't even use cars, never mind electricity.

I can think of at least three films and an episode of The X Files about these crowds, so it seems I'm not alone.

meeeeh · 22-09-2015 1:03pm

custard gannet wrote: »

Well if you could be bothered to do any research you would find that due to the fact few if any people in North America convert to old world Christian sects like the Amish, Hurrities and Mennonites, they are almost entirely descended from fringe Christian groups driven out of Europe centuries ago, and that they typically marry people from within a very small geographical area and only from within their own faith, which very often means members of the community share a grandparent or a great grandparent somewhere down the line. These groups tend to have higher rates of infant mortality and congenital illness than the regular population. Orthodox Jews do it to a heavy extent as well, which tends to make their women a great deal less good looking from regular Jewish/ Israeli women.

But what if the small population is also very good looking?

BoatMad · 22-09-2015 1:04pm

meeeeh wrote: »

But what if the small population is also very good looking?

tend not to happen , in close interbreeding

Flippyfloppy · 22-09-2015 1:07pm

custard gannet wrote: »

Well if you could be bothered to do any research you would find that due to the fact few if any people in North America convert to old world Christian sects like the Amish, Hurrities and Mennonites, they are almost entirely descended from fringe Christian groups driven out of Europe centuries ago, and that they typically marry people from within a very small geographical area and only from within their own faith, which very often means members of the community share a grandparent or a great grandparent somewhere down the line. These groups tend to have higher rates of infant mortality and congenital illness than the regular population. Orthodox Jews do it to a heavy extent as well, which tends to make their women a great deal less good looking from regular Jewish/ Israeli women.

Haha, if you are looking for political correctness you are dealing with the wrong man my friend :pac: Having said that there was really no need to ban this lad, he can say what he likes for all I care.

You're expecting me to 'do research' off the back of you saying people you saw in Tesco 'look inbred' ? If you're so knowledged about these people who may share a grandparent from certain sects, why oh why must you start a discussion online trying to get to the bottom of it?? Maybe start a Facebook plea

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