Ah, poor RTE is playing we have no money.....

punisher5112 · 12-09-2019 10:06pm #1

Prime time doing an investigation into how rte themselves have no money....

They have 3 people watching clips and are asked should we be forced to pay...... Guess the answer yes yes we should be forced....

RTE are a shocking set up and squander a fortune....

work · 12-09-2019 10:09pm

No more land to sell, know plenty that work or worked there....insane gravy and some poor work attitudes.....just from my experience others will of course have seen things differently.

punisher5112 · 12-09-2019 10:11pm

work wrote: »

No more land to sell, know plenty that work or worked there....insane gravy and some poor work attitudes.....just from my experience others will of course have seen things differently.

I hate this idea they have to sell off public owned land.... It makes no economic sense and it's a one off. They can't do it again next year or in years to come.

Done work experience there and it was an absolute tip with those walking around thinking the sun shone out of their holes.

Atlantic Dawn · 12-09-2019 10:11pm

Could they start selling sponsorship slots on their newscasters clothing?

pm1977x · 12-09-2019 10:15pm

Beyond parody - they shove 3 people in a manky room and pretend it's not some disused edit suite by shoving cushions on a shelf, then finish the slot by listing all the woes they have suffered in a propaganda video, then back to studio where we're told no representative of RTE was willing to come on to be grilled...but they did issue a statement. :eek:

screamer · 12-09-2019 10:16pm

I think RTE has become totally irrelevant. Sticking to old formulas for running itself, over paying, under delivering and has a public sector mentality.
I don’t use Rte as my go-to for anything current affairs related. I don’t know what the hell they are supposed to cover under public service broadcasting, but I bet virgin could cover it at a fraction of the cost. Time to radically re-think why you exist at all RTE and then, when they can answer that they can maybe start to make the decisions needed to bring their books back in line.

tonycascarino · 12-09-2019 10:21pm

They should stop paying the likes of Marian Finucane, Joe Duffy, Ryan Tubridy, Ray Darcy etc. astronomical wages. What do they do that is so important to justify their wages? Their jobs certainly don't warrant their salaries and the same applies to everyone else who works in RTE. Sort that out and then maybe that would be a start towards RTE saving money.

1o059k7ewrqj3n · 12-09-2019 10:31pm

Why don't they just privatise it? Powers that be nearly fell over themselves to get rid of profit making state and semi-state companies before, you'd swear there was a vested interest in having a propaganda outlet on tv, radio and internet 24/7...

mzungu · 12-09-2019 10:36pm

The salary demands of some presenters needs to be looked at. It's mainly the timeslot that brings in the viewers/listeners and most people will get used to a new face/voice hosting the show pretty quickly. There is no way Tubbs is worth 400,000 euro a year. Nor is Joe Duffy worth 300,000 euro. It's time for the taxpayer funded gravy train that is Montrose to come into the real world. Before they go looking for money from Joe and Jane Public, they need to start getting their own ship in order.

Their current affairs output is very good, though.

whiskeyman · 12-09-2019 10:37pm

Rte has lots of money.

They're just wasting it away, that's all.

screamer · 12-09-2019 10:39pm

whiskeyman wrote: »

Rte has lots of money.

They're just wasting it away, that's all.

Like the HSE really....

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 12-09-2019 10:42pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Prime time doing an investigation into how rte themselves have no money....

They have 3 people watching clips and are asked should we be forced to pay...... Guess the answer yes yes we should be forced....

RTE are a shocking set up and squander a fortune....

Broadcasting charge does exactly that, doesn't it; or am I missing something?

Always Tired · 12-09-2019 10:46pm

I could fix the budget shortfall in no time.

first, cut the outrageous salaries.

next, Legalize cannabis and include an 'entertainment tax' in the pricing. Also, to get the card you need to buy the herb you must have a valid TV license and renew it every year.

the government obviously think that the only way to get people to pay for rte is to attach the fee to other things people want to buy like laptops, phones TVs so it's basically the same idea, just without this farce of those items being charged because they can receive a signal or watch rte player. and its actually more fair. a laptop or phone is basically a necessity in this day and age and people shouldn't be punished for having them by a tax for rte. put the tax on something that people choose to buy but that they don't need and no one will feel taken advantage of.

and if the whole country is stoned no one will care what's on rte it will instantly become more watchable

Bob24 · 12-09-2019 10:53pm

screamer wrote: »

Like the HSE really....

Not saying the HSE can’t improve, but it is delivering a service to the public which pretty much no one would accept to live without. The same thing can’t be said about RTÉ.

NIMAN · 12-09-2019 10:55pm

Wonder did Miriam feel any shame when the piece finished and it came back to her to finish the show?

I'd say not. She probably thinks she isn't being paid enough, what with being one of the nation's darlings.

Damien360 · 12-09-2019 11:05pm

tonycascarino wrote: »

They should stop paying the likes of Marian Finucane, Joe Duffy, Ryan Tubridy, Ray Darcy etc. astronomical wages. What do they do that is so important to justify their wages? Their jobs certainly don't warrant their salaries and the same applies to everyone else who works in RTE. Sort that out and then maybe that would be a start towards RTE saving money.

Pat Kenny spoke about this some time ago. He said the presenters wages were but a drop in the ocean compared to waste on so many other staff. Researchers by the dozen for each show, far more than required.

Cameramen carry on is the one that stuck in my mind. Camera operator is on premium but the guy holding the cables beside the camera was union mandated to also be a camera operator and paid the same. Twice the cost immediately compared to others.

Abuse of free taxis (at cost to rte) for any old excuse never went away. On a story/buisness fair enough but it was being used for going to and from work for every tom dick and Harry.

Staff are never off the books. Remember when they were asked a few years ago to State the number of staff and they couldn't put a number on it.

I would defend the need for a news service but in the last few years it is just a propaganda piece for the state. There is no critique and I think it is a fear that they won't get anyone to interview if they break rank. The BBC is not much better in that regard but neither stoop as low as Fox news in the US. Paying top wages to read stuff out loud should not be a requirement.

We still need to pay for good news service and everytime rte comes under attack, they put the importance of this as an example of why we should pay more.

Separate news from the rest of Rte, we should pay for news but make the rest of the rubbish pay it's way on commercial income. And that includes staff and presenters wages.

1o059k7ewrqj3n · 12-09-2019 11:06pm

NIMAN wrote: »

Wonder did Miriam feel any shame when the piece finished and it came back to her to finish the show?

I'd say not. She probably thinks she isn't being paid enough, what with being one of the nation's darlings.

She needs a few bob to feed them kids she keeps knocking out.

tdf7187 · 12-09-2019 11:09pm

Steyr 556 wrote: »

Why don't they just privatise it? Powers that be nearly fell over themselves to get rid of profit making state and semi-state companies before, you'd swear there was a vested interest in having a propaganda outlet on tv, radio and internet 24/7...

There's truth in what you say (e.g., the National Lottery, which was functioning fine when in fully public ownership and was only sold because the public finances were so dire a few years' back), but even though I rarely watch RTE, be careful what you wish for. Do you really want our national broadcasting service in the hands of someone like Rupert Murdoch?

12-09-2019 11:34pm

They could shine a torch up their entitled arseholes.

punisher5112 · 13-09-2019 12:06am

tdf7187 wrote: »

There's truth in what you say (e.g., the National Lottery, which was functioning fine when in fully public ownership and was only sold because the public finances were so dire a few years' back), but even though I rarely watch RTE, be careful what you wish for. Do you really want our national broadcasting service in the hands of someone like Rupert Murdoch?

I'd be more worried about Denny O'Brien

punisher5112 · 13-09-2019 12:08am

Telecom eireann, ESB sort of, aerlingus, CIE some of and more to go, Luas to a French company to manage, Irish water another mess, I'm sure I am missing some.

Bowlardo · 13-09-2019 12:10am

Nationwide, ear to the ground, reeling in the year, the odd cooking program,
The odd prime time special and occasional there’s a decent late late.

Spanish Eyes · 13-09-2019 12:26am

Forget it, they will just increase the license fee. That's easy.

dxhound2005 · 13-09-2019 12:28am

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Forget it, they will just increase the license fee. That's easy.

They have to wait for 20 years to increase it. That will be in 2028.

Mysterypunter · 13-09-2019 12:34am

RTE will go to the wall and not be missed, hardly anyone watches it anyway, bar a few elderly people. Loads of higher quality alternatives available, this organization is a money squandering closed shop.

completedit · 13-09-2019 12:47am

It’s very important we don’t lose our national consciousness in a world of American dominated media.

Oops! · 13-09-2019 12:51am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Telecom eireann, ESB sort of, aerlingus, CIE some of and more to go, Luas to a French company to manage, Irish water another mess, I'm sure I am missing some.

NCT has been run by an English company for the last ten years, That contract is up this year. From 1999 to 2009 it was a former hotel owner in Kilkenny and mate of Bertie's that won the tender.

posy2010 · 13-09-2019 12:52am

punisher5112 wrote: »

I hate this idea they have to sell off public owned land.... It makes no economic sense and it's a one off. They can't do it again next year or in years to come.

Done work experience there and it was an absolute tip with those walking around thinking the sun shone out of their holes.

Same, did work experience there. Craziness and they had a cushy canteen!

JupiterKid · 13-09-2019 1:44am

How very dare you all criticize RTE for poor mouthing and rattling the begging bowl. :mad:

In this age of rabid privatisation, we need to hold on to State agencies that are characterized by D-list “celebs”, is hyper-unionized, grossly over-staffed, with over paid presenters who have a sense of entitlement the size of the planet Jupiter...

...said no-one ever.

KevRossi · 13-09-2019 2:12am

mzungu wrote: »

The salary demands of some presenters needs to be looked at. It's mainly the timeslot that brings in the viewers/listeners and most people will get used to a new face/voice hosting the show pretty quickly. There is no way Tubbs is worth 400,000 euro a year. Nor is Joe Duffy worth 300,000 euro. It's time for the taxpayer funded gravy train that is Montrose to come into the real world. Before they go looking for money from Joe and Jane Public, they need to start getting their own ship in order.

Their current affairs output is very good, though.

He's not worth €300,000, he's worth near €400,00 at the last release of RTE wages. Of course these numbers are 3 years old as we cannot find out what they are really being paid this year for 'commercial reasons'.

Pile of bollocks.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/ryan-tubridy-highest-paid-at-rt%C3%A9-as-top-10-presenters-receive-more-than-3m-1.3729014

MOH · 13-09-2019 2:29am

completedit wrote: »

It’s very important we don’t lose our national consciousness in a world of American dominated media.

Couldn't agree more.

So scrap the reality/import show dominated RTE, halve the licence fee, throw it all at TG4 who actually manage to come up with original programming and put an indigenous twist on imports.

Everyone's a winner.

Yakult · 13-09-2019 2:30am

How about everyone stops giving these fools money to squander! We enable their ****tery.

They can't put us all in prison!!

Maybe then, they will cop the **** on!

howiya · 13-09-2019 7:11am

in a couple of minutes times there'll be someone wheeled out to summarise the newspapers on morning Ireland. They'll return at 08:12 for another few minutes. Why can't Dobbo or one of the presenters do this segment. Far too many people working on one two hour long show.

downtheroad · 13-09-2019 7:40am

Damien360 wrote: »

Abuse of free taxis (at cost to rte) for any old excuse never went away. On a story/buisness fair enough but it was being used for going to and from work for every tom dick and Harry.

It might only be a drop in the ocean that is the RTE total expenditure but the taxi situation is a disgrace. What other employer in this country pays for taxis to and from work for its staff. Such an easy solution for Dee Forbes to save a few hundred grand, tell staff they can make their own way to and from Montrose like any normal commuter.

gifted · 13-09-2019 7:45am

dxhound2005 wrote: »

They have to wait for 20 years to increase it. That will be in 2028.

Genuine question, why 20 years?

rob316 · 13-09-2019 7:53am

Scrap the whole thing I couldn't care less. These presenters are getting paid more than their BBC counterparts when you consider the viewer and listenership size.

No way should the taxpayer be propping up this crap. They have commercial ad revenue unlike the BBC, how are they in such trouble so? Simple, fat salaries and gross mismanagement.

suicide_circus · 13-09-2019 8:28am

I didnt see the Prime Time piece but if it is as described it may be the end of the last scrap journalistic integrity at RTE. I'll wait til i can watch it but it sounds very sad.

If the relationship between RTE and the public were a marriage you'd call it abusive. RTE pushing a "you'll be nothing without me!" narrative and large swathes of the public with palpable Stockholm Syndrome. Not healthy at best and pretty sick at worst.

Thinkingaboutit · 13-09-2019 8:38am

MOH wrote: »

Couldn't agree more.

So scrap the reality/import show dominated RTE, halve the licence fee, throw it all at TG4 who actually manage to come up with original programming and put an indigenous twist on imports.

Everyone's a winner.

Instead of blowing money on imports and rights to matches someone can get anywhere, they should be giving more opportunities to interesting Irish TV production companies. Sometimes there can be extraordinarily good programming, but generally it's the same lazy stuff. That's without considering RTÉ's general contempt for efficiency.

suicide_circus · 13-09-2019 8:40am

Thinkingaboutit wrote: »

contempt for efficiency.

great phrase

WB Yokes · 13-09-2019 8:41am

Dont pay for that muck... i dont have a TV

punisher5112 · 13-09-2019 8:42am

Return of glenroe seems to be big news in rte....

Re runs of course.

punisher5112 · 13-09-2019 8:43am

WB Yokes wrote: »

Dont pay for that muck... i dont have a TV

They're going to get you with the new licence.... Doesn't have to be a TV....

Mad_maxx · 13-09-2019 8:43am

tonycascarino wrote: »

They should stop paying the likes of Marian Finucane, Joe Duffy, Ryan Tubridy, Ray Darcy etc. astronomical wages. What do they do that is so important to justify their wages? Their jobs certainly don't warrant their salaries and the same applies to everyone else who works in RTE. Sort that out and then maybe that would be a start towards RTE saving money.

They would claim it's a constant battle to prevent d,arcy from being poached by NBC

Hence the mighty bribe required

WB Yokes · 13-09-2019 8:46am

punisher5112 wrote: »

They're going to get you with the new licence.... Doesn't have to be a TV....

I think i heard about that alright, its phones is it?

Mad_maxx · 13-09-2019 8:47am

Without RTE, who would spread public sector union propoganda, where would ingrid miley go

punisher5112 · 13-09-2019 8:47am

WB Yokes wrote: »

I think i heard about that alright, its phones is it?

It will be any device so phone, tablet, laptop, pc monitor etc....

NIMAN · 13-09-2019 8:47am

WB Yokes wrote: »

I think i heard about that alright, its phones is it?

It'll be any digital device, there will be no escaping it.

Except maybe for a few tree huggers who live off the grid.

NIMAN · 13-09-2019 8:50am

Re: the RTE top earners.

Often hear how the pay of the likes of Duffy, D'arcy, Miriam, Finucane etc isn't really a factor in the losses at RTE, but for me its like climate change.

Changes made in small places like Ireland are irrelevant if USA, China, India etc don't reform, but we do it any way cos its the right thing to do.

Same with the top earners wages. Might not save RTE, but its the right thing to do.

weldoninhio · 13-09-2019 8:57am

Why is a television license paying for:

RTRadio One
RTRaidi Gaeltachta
RTLyric FM
RTPerforming Groups
Broadcasting Authority of Ireland levy
BCI Sound and Vision fund
Collection Costs from An Post/Communications and Social Protection Departments

Not to mention the orchestras!!!

suicide_circus · 13-09-2019 8:57am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Return of glenroe seems to be big news in rte....

Re runs of course.

absolutely tragic

murpho999 · 13-09-2019 8:57am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Telecom eireann, ESB sort of, aerlingus, CIE some of and more to go, Luas to a French company to manage, Irish water another mess, I'm sure I am missing some.

It's normal in other countries to privatise companies so what's the problem?

Also, Luas is now run by Transdev and it will change again in the future. I don't see the problem with it and it's a highly efficient service.

Irish Water is only a mess in that how it's funded and irish people refused to pay for it unlike how people in other countries pay for their water.

So there's no real need to bash the whole country.

Ah, poor RTE is playing we have no money.....

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