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Best WW2 book you read

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭tc20


    as the thread title is "best WW2 book..." I'd have to say Beevor/Kershaw books are thoroughly good reads. I got through Stalingrad last year and have loaned Berlin to a friend so will read that in time. I've read quite a few of Stephen Ambrose after BoB first came out on tv and found them enjoyable and well researched but a little, I don't know... Hollywood-ish??

    I recently picked up "I fought you from the skies" in a charity shop and read it on holidays. Its written by Willi Heilmann, a Luftwaffe fighter pilot concentrating on the latter stages of the western front. I thought it eloquently written, not at all clunky, as some translated books can be. Certainly the descriptions of aerial combat, and the feelings of despair towards the end came across well. Also, it was good to read something from the other perspective.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Will have to read Ardennes. Stalingrad and Berlin are incredibly reads, head and shoulders above others in my opinion. I quite like Max Hastings Armageddon and Nemesis, but don't think they hold a candle to Beevor. He has a very unique and enthralling way of unfolding the stories surrounding events that trump the competition. Berlin is possibly my favourite bit of WW2 literature, my copy is falling apart from sheer use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭Horse84


    I would just like to add my recommendation for beevor's books. Really top reads. On Ardennes, I preordered it and read it while on hols last month. I'd have to say it's probably not his finest work. While it is enjoyable I wasn't blown away with any groundbreaking new information or nothing I didn't really know before.

    On a different topic would anyone be able to tell me if any bookseller stocks the full range of osprey books? I came across a very comprehensive stand full of them while in a bookshop in Iceland but as with most things there they were hideously expensive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    The one Beevor book I couldn't read was the Spanish one. I found that unintelligible. The politics were too much for my mindset when I was trying to read it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    beauf wrote: »
    The one Beevor book I couldn't read was the Spanish one. I found that unintelligible. The politics were too much for my mindset when I was trying to read it.

    The only history book I ever gave up on.

    Although, he himself says it's not his best by any measure. He did it very much on a budget.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    A Bridge Too Far by Cornelius Ryan is a brilliant description of a single battle/campaign, the Operation Market Garden attempt to cross the Rhine by going through Holland and using paratroopers to capture the bridges on the way.

    It's a long book which describes much of the fighting and logistical problems in some detail but also touches on (there's scope for a much more in-depth study on this topic) the intrigues within the Dutch population, most of whom were sympathetic to the Allies but many of whom had collaborated with the Germans, leading the Allies and the British in particular to be highly mistrustful of them. Had they been a bit more willing to use the Dutch experience they might have avoided/overcome many of the problems they had.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Over the years I've gathered a fair number of books on the War and here are a few from the nearly all first person German perspective;

    ......

    Just finished this one......

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    .....an interesting read as the author is fairly open about his pro-Nazi, pro-Hitler beliefs and motivations.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    He became a politician for a right wing German party after the war IIRC. As you say he's pretty open about it. Most of these early ones are.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    I think A Bridge Too Far is one of the best ones.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,408 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Will have to read Ardennes. Stalingrad and Berlin are incredibly reads, head and shoulders above others in my opinion. I quite like Max Hastings Armageddon and Nemesis, but don't think they hold a candle to Beevor. He has a very unique and enthralling way of unfolding the stories surrounding events that trump the competition. Berlin is possibly my favourite bit of WW2 literature, my copy is falling apart from sheer use.

    Ardennes is not great , nothing like some of his other books.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    I liked Max Hastings Armageddon and Nemesis. But there is a bit of speculation in those books with not everyone will agree with.

    I read a different book about Ardennes. I can't remember which one though. Might have been Citizen Soldiers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Arrived today......

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    ....to be read once I finish his brother's book on the Caesars


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭lurker2000


    I'm reading 'Hell's Gate- the battle of the Cherkassy pocket, Jan-Feb 44' by Douglas E Nash at the moment. Its intense as its packed with detail of all the different Soviet and German units and movements at that time and location. Basically, a large number of German forces were surrounded near Korsun by an overwhelming number of Soviet divisions who were under the command of Zhukov and Vatutin. By all accounts the Germans were in danger to suffering the same fate as the 6th Army at Stalingrad the year before.

    von Manstein wanted to rescue them but was hampered by Hitler's insistence that the rescue be coupled with the retaking of Kiev which was a bridge too far for the decimated Germans at that stage. I'm halfway through it but its a must for anyone interested in the Eastern Front ... As far as I know, no one had written about this action before Doug Nash did it so capability. Nash is a retired Col. in the American military and has therefore has a greater understanding of the battle strategy than a civilian author may have IMO.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 102 ✭✭My Darling Clementine


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  • Registered Users Posts: 30 Thomas998


    Anything by Beevor, really.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 217 ✭✭Count Down


    Jonathan Dimbleby's Destiny In The Desert is an excellent description of the events leading up to the battles of El Alamein, and deals with the behind the scenes politics which led to the sacking of Montgomery's predecessors.
    For fiction Alistair Maclean's HMS Ulysses is brilliant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 799 ✭✭✭Poulgorm


    The Rise and fall of the Third Reich, by William Shirer.

    A few decades old, at this stage. Still available on Amazon. The best account I have ever read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,987 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Haven't read that many tbh, so can't do comparisons, but Stalingrad by Beevor is an excellent book.


  • Registered Users Posts: 217 ✭✭Count Down


    Another excellent work of fiction is Brian Callison's A Flock Of Ships. Set in the 1970s originally, it tells the story of a Royal Navy survey ship in the remote island of Tristan de Cunha in the South Atlantic. They discover a pair of WW2 merchant ships and a wrecked U-boat in the natural harbour, but only discover the secret of the mystery when they find the diary of the merchant ship's first officer.
    The story is very effectively told in flashback, and starts off slowly, but builds up to an exciting climax.
    Out of print, but available from Amazon for about €5 including postage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    No one mentioned " Band of Brothers" by Stephen Ambrose.

    And also Citizen Soldiers.

    Both excellent reads..

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  • Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭Tippman24


    Martin Middlebrook wrote a few excellent books on WW2. A great read is "Convoy" which tells the story of 2 Conveys of ships leaving New York in March 1943 destined for England. Both Conveys were intercepted by U-Boats and suffered huge losses. He also wrote "The Regensburg-Schweinfurt Raids" which tells the story of the USAF attack on these 2 towns in Germany in August 1943. It was not a success and the Americans suffered huge losses. Final book I will mention is "the Nuremberg Raid" which tells of the RAF bombing mission in April 1944 when they suffered the loss of some 90 aircraft. The thing about the three books and his other work is that there are interviews with the men and women on both sides.



  • Registered Users Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Prefab Sprouter


    Bomber Command by Max Hastings is well worth a read. Gives a really good history of the Strategic Bombing Campaign and explains how the service evolved during the war. His description of the initial raids over Wilhelmshaven is brilliant and terrifying.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,733 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    I second Bomber Command as a recommendation.

    From the Axis side, there is "Panzer Commander" by Hans Von Luck.



  • Registered Users Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Prefab Sprouter


    And I would also agree with Manach's recommendation about Von Luck's memoirs. A good read!



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