Sega Megadrive mini

CiDeRmAn · 04-10-2019 6:07pm

FutureTeashock wrote: »

This is the most holier than thou post I've ever seen.

I already have most of the games but doubt the console still works at this stage.

I'll keep stealing "stealing" by playing them online, thank you very much.

No need for the insults.

I wasn't insulting you.

And I was just stating facts.

There are plenty of people here that use emulation.

And there are plenty of people who own original hardware.

Also, there are plenty of reasons not to buy the Megadrive Mini.

CiDeRmAn · 04-10-2019 6:09pm

And with my moderator hat on,
You are welcome to use this forum and take part, but if you continue to only have negativity to say then please feel free not to post here at all.
If it continues you may receive a warning, escalating to a forum ban.
We all follow the rules here, this is part of the price of admission.
If you can't, then don't post.

Tom Mann Centuria · 04-10-2019 6:45pm

I steal them the old fashioned way, downloading huge romsets, filling devices with them, and still end up just playing 1942, Track & Field, Mr do! or dig dug. (offline).

Have the retro flag megadrive pi case with the sega "frontend"* that was supposedly going on the mini but time ran out for it. It's pretty nifty but If this mini gets a bit cheaper I'll probably buy it.

*Blast16

Kidchameleon · 04-10-2019 7:42pm

FutureTeashock wrote: »

All these games can be played for free online, so why would I fork out 75 precious euros for this?

Pffft, normies...

R.F. · 07-10-2019 10:33am

FutureTeashock wrote: »

All these games can be played for free online, so why would I fork out 75 precious euros for this?

I like the aesthetic of the mini consoles. I own all 4 now (SNES, NES and even PS1) I don't use them much but it is nice to have them.

B.A._Baracus · 07-10-2019 12:21pm

FutureTeashock wrote: »

All these games can be played for free online, so why would I fork out 75 precious euros for this?

I know.
But it's good to have something you can hook up to your tv and play on the sofa.
A Pi could do the same. But it's just easier to get the mini.

o1s1n · 07-10-2019 12:55pm

It does seem extremely disingenuous for someone to make a statement like that.

By that logic, why read books when you can just download them to a Kindle for free instead?

Why have arcade machines when MAME exists?

Why go on holiday when you can just wander around in Google Streetview?

Because they are different experiences, which I'm sure the person already knows.

I won't be buying a Megadrive mini, mainly because I've no use for one.

The Last Bandit · 07-10-2019 1:54pm

o1s1n wrote: »

I won't be buying a Megadrive mini, mainly because I've no use for one.

I'll be buying one for precisely this reason

Inviere · 07-10-2019 3:56pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Why have arcade machines when MAME exists?

MAME loves real arcade machines too

The bloody thing made me sell my pcb's when I see a pcb and MAME running side by side on two cabs...

But yeah, agreed. There's a whole spectrum of experience to gauge here, from playing games through an internet browser, to using real hardware on a crt...hardly the same thing.

briany · 07-10-2019 5:49pm

Inviere wrote: »

MAME loves real arcade machines too The bloody thing made me sell my pcb's when I see a pcb and MAME running side by side on two cabs...

But yeah, agreed. There's a whole spectrum of experience to gauge here, from playing games through an internet browser, to using real hardware on a crt...hardly the same thing.

I think a true retro experience is probably made up of a dozen different sensory inputs and cues. Tactile things like pushing in the cart or blowing on the contacts can't really be replicated. Also, I've always noticed that if you have instant access to a load of different games at once, it makes things feel cheaper and this greatly diminishes attention span, in my experience. If you have only a few in physical form, and you have to actually get up to change them, there's a bit of a commitment made there and makes it much easier to focus.

Danick · 07-10-2019 10:23pm

Anyone know where I can get the 6 button version of the controller for the new mini? I know it was released in Japan but I'm hoping they released it to buy separately.

Inviere · 08-10-2019 6:28am

briany wrote: »

I think a true retro experience is probably made up of a dozen different sensory inputs and cues. Tactile things like pushing in the cart or blowing on the contacts can't really be replicated. Also, I've always noticed that if you have instant access to a load of different games at once, it makes things feel cheaper and this greatly diminishes attention span, in my experience. If you have only a few in physical form, and you have to actually get up to change them, there's a bit of a commitment made there and makes it much easier to focus.

Fully agree there. Most everyone here as at one point fel 'flash cart syndrome', where you have hundreds of files available, and end up playing nothing. You have to exercise discipline when using roms/emulation/flash carts, because exactly what you said WILL happen - you'll value nothing, and play nothing.

CiDeRmAn · 08-10-2019 7:24am

I think you'll have to import them, or have a look at the likes of Tomtop or AliExpress as I believe they have 3rd party pads that are compatible and six button.

Danick · 08-10-2019 7:05pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I think you'll have to import them, or have a look at the likes of Tomtop or AliExpress as I believe they have 3rd party pads that are compatible and six button.

Thanks - I really want he officially licensed 6 button pads by SEGA

o1s1n · 09-10-2019 10:12am

Inviere wrote: »

Fully agree there. Most everyone here as at one point fel 'flash cart syndrome', where you have hundreds of files available, and end up playing nothing. You have to exercise discipline when using roms/emulation/flash carts, because exactly what you said WILL happen - you'll value nothing, and play nothing.

It's actually one reason I tend not to get involved in doing that with modern consoles. My Switch games for example are all 100% legit.

Fairly sure if I'd had unlimited access to the full Switch library I wouldn't be playing half the things I am.

Retr0gamer · 09-10-2019 10:45am

With the proliferation of digital stores and cheap games I'm getting it with modern consoles. My Switch is awash with tonnes of great games I can play at the touch of a button so I have to be very disciplined or I'll end up playing nothing.

Then there is my Steam/GOG library… I won't even go into that.

The worst thing about modern games though is the feel you need to be playing the latest release as soon as it comes out. Lots of times I've been playing a stone cold classic old school game and then dropped it because some modern game comes out that I end up not enjoying nearly as much. I've kind of learned now that modern big budget games are just a heap of **** with a focus on skinner box games instead of gameplay, outside the likes of games from Nintendo, Platinum, From etc.

But then you've got a vast wealth of indie games that are really worth your time. Thank god for indie games as I really think gaming would be in a stinking quagmire without it.

CiDeRmAn · 09-10-2019 12:53pm

Ah, the days of a full R4 and several cakes of PS/DC/Wii games, and played only ten minutes past the intro on most of them!

Danick · 09-10-2019 5:21pm

What do you guys think of the new Mini Megadrive?

Lemming · 10-10-2019 12:38pm

Danick wrote: »

What do you guys think of the new Mini Megadrive?

I've not given mine a proper shake-down, but so far I've enjoyed it. I've not noticed the audio lag - yet - and have noticed that games run faster given they're emulated at the original 60Hz speed rather than the traditional PAL experience of 50Hz (or else I'm getting slower as I age ). The pads are - from what I recall - close to if not full size unlike the NES/SNES offerings which are minified so makes for a less cramped experience for those of us with bigger hands.

Retr0gamer · 10-10-2019 1:02pm

I think you mean proper speed rather than faster.

This has been your daily announcement from the 60Hz proper order police.

K.O.Kiki · 14-10-2019 11:46am

Spotted this on the net: BrawlerGen pad

$30, compatible with MD mini

B.A._Baracus · 14-10-2019 2:53pm

What's the craic with this being hacked?
Wanna play me some Skitchin' and Greatest Heavyweights which is the greatest boxing game of all time

:P

briany · 14-10-2019 3:47pm

Inviere wrote: »

Fully agree there. Most everyone here as at one point fel 'flash cart syndrome', where you have hundreds of files available, and end up playing nothing. You have to exercise discipline when using roms/emulation/flash carts, because exactly what you said WILL happen - you'll value nothing, and play nothing.

I've been emulating games for about 15 years now, and in that time I think I've finished approximately 6 of them. Those are,

Zelda Wind Waker
Mario Galaxy 2
Super Mario Land
Super Mario Land 2
Pilotwings
Pilotwings 64

DelBoy Trotter · 14-10-2019 4:14pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

What's the craic with this being hacked?

Was about to ask the same. I haven't bought one yet, but I'm tempted

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Wanna play me some Skitchin' and Greatest Heavyweights which is the greatest boxing game of all time :P

You are 100% correct. Greatest Heavyweights is the greatest boxing game of all time

Chris_Heilong · 15-10-2019 3:47pm

No news since 2 weeks back a group has hacked the system but are testing it before they release to the public.

B.A._Baracus · 15-10-2019 4:46pm

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

No news since 2 weeks back a group has hacked the system but are testing it before they release to the public.

YarHarHar! :pac:

CiDeRmAn · 15-10-2019 5:41pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

YarHarHar! :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY

Chris_Heilong · 15-10-2019 5:53pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

YarHarHar! :pac:

Not really considering I only play what I already own or obscure Japan only Translated games :P

CiDeRmAn · 22-11-2019 6:53pm

Where's the best value to be had in these things?
I can see that Argos have them for €69.99 but is it anywhere here, bricks and mortar, that's cheaper?

Pique · 01-12-2019 1:45pm

What's the consensus on the Megadrive Flashback that Lidl have in this week?
https://www.lidl.ie/en/p/tech-gifts/sega-mega-drive-flashback/p32600

Tom Mann Centuria · 01-12-2019 2:16pm

Pique wrote: »

What's the consensus on the Megadrive Flashback that Lidl have in this week?
https://www.lidl.ie/en/p/tech-gifts/sega-mega-drive-flashback/p32600

Crap

Xenji · 01-12-2019 5:45pm

Pique wrote: »

What's the consensus on the Megadrive Flashback that Lidl have in this week?
https://www.lidl.ie/en/p/tech-gifts/sega-mega-drive-flashback/p32600

Woefull and you can buy the real deal for cheaper.

1o059k7ewrqj3n · 01-12-2019 11:51pm

Pique wrote: »

What's the consensus on the Megadrive Flashback that Lidl have in this week?
https://www.lidl.ie/en/p/tech-gifts/sega-mega-drive-flashback/p32600

It depends which version. I've seen a couple of reviews on Youtube where people talked about a 2nd version of the Flashback, the 2018 version, which featured a few revisions over the original release. Think it's got a working cart slot, takes original controllers as well as having wireless controllers and it should take an SD card if it's the 2018 version. That said they burned their bridges with most folks with the first attempt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pjcubPK2Rw

I don't think it's the 2018 version in the Lidl ad btw.

Danick · 02-12-2019 12:03am

It doesn't matter which version of the AT Games be it the earlier version or the 2018 release - they all have sound issues - avoid and buy the official Sega Megadrive Mini instead.

B.A._Baracus · 02-12-2019 10:32am

has this been hacked yet?

Retr0gamer · 02-12-2019 10:57am

Pretty insane Lidl are flogging the AT games Megadrive for pretty much the same price as the mini. Going to fool a lot of people as well which is unfortunately. The AT games machines are so bad they will actively put people off old games.

Kidchameleon · 02-12-2019 11:32am

One of my FB friends was sharing LIDL's link and it was getting loads of likes & discussion, I chimed in on the convo and set them straight. Unfortunately I think many many people will fall into that trap. People will look at it like "It has twice as many games as the other one, plus wireless controllers"

CiDeRmAn · 02-12-2019 12:20pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Pretty insane Lidl are flogging the AT games Megadrive for pretty much the same price as the mini. Going to fool a lot of people as well which is unfortunately. The AT games machines are so bad they will actively put people off old games.

I don't know, the target audience is not, well, us.

It's the people who possibly play a lot of Fifa and remember fondly the Megadrive their dad probably had in the home.

Their memories of Sonic are lost in a pink haze of nostalgia.

And, let's face it, it'll be played on a 55" OLED in 16:9 with all the TV based processing on, so there'll be lag to boot, and they won't actually care, it'll just be Sonic to them.

The likes of us, cursed with insight, will just not buy them!

Retr0gamer · 02-12-2019 12:44pm

True but that kind of set up will put people off playing these games and dismiss them as terrible. I mean I've dismissed games before because of TV lag. What's it going to be like with TV lag, awful emulation, ear piercing sound and, my personal favourite, crappy controller syndrome.

CiDeRmAn · 02-12-2019 1:43pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

True but that kind of set up will put people off playing these games and dismiss them as terrible. I mean I've dismissed games before because of TV lag. What's it going to be like with TV lag, awful emulation, ear piercing sound and, my personal favourite, crappy controller syndrome.

Sounds like an Arcade and Retro Beers in my house!

o1s1n · 02-12-2019 1:53pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

ear piercing sound

Ever try to put Golden Axe on at a Ciderdude beers?

CiDeRmAn · 02-12-2019 3:08pm

mr.noobie · 02-12-2019 5:50pm

The latest model of the ATgames Mega Drive(the one with a non functioning volume slider) actually isn't that bad at all once you update the firmware on it, certainly not as bad as people make it out to be anyway its a massive improvement on their older models, I think most people dismiss it straight away because it's from ATgames, it can play SMS/GG and Mega CD just fine as well all with artwork

CiDeRmAn · 02-12-2019 7:56pm

mr.noobie wrote: »

The latest model of the ATgames Mega Drive(the one with a non functioning volume slider) actually isn't that bad at all once you update the firmware on it, certainly not as bad as people make it out to be anyway its a massive improvement on their older models, I think most people dismiss it straight away because it's from ATgames, it can play SMS/GG and Mega CD just fine as well all with artwork

Any links to sites who have reviewed this sudden and unexpected uptick in quality from a company with a history of pretty dire clone consoles?

Don't all of the @tgames products amount to a system-on-a-chip solution that can't be firmware updated into decency?

Edit: just on a forum where they discuss it.
Depends on the version.
Atgames were told to stop making them, but the last iteration had an SD slot and this firmware update unlocks it for adding extra games as well as improvements to it's function.
Still not as good as the Mini.
https://atariage.com/forums/topic/286745-sega-flashback-2019-custom-firmware-available/

mr.noobie · 02-12-2019 10:28pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Any links to sites who have reviewed this sudden and unexpected uptick in quality from a company with a history of pretty dire clone consoles?

Don't all of the @tgames products amount to a system-on-a-chip solution that can't be firmware updated into decency?

Edit: just on a forum where they discuss it.
Depends on the version.
Atgames were told to stop making them, but the last iteration had an SD slot and this firmware update unlocks it for adding extra games as well as improvements to it's function.
Still not as good as the Mini.
https://atariage.com/forums/topic/286745-sega-flashback-2019-custom-firmware-available/

There's a custom firmware floating around somewhere for it too that allows for artwork and uses an updated version of the Gensis GX emulator or replaces it with Picodrive think it was from gbatemp, probably still not better than the mini but from what I understand its not far off it, I think it plays just fine with the controllers supplied too.

Danick · 03-12-2019 8:45pm

mr.noobie wrote: »

There's a custom firmware floating around somewhere for it too that allows for artwork and uses an updated version of the Gensis GX emulator or replaces it with Picodrive think it was from gbatemp, probably still not better than the mini but from what I understand its not far off it, I think it plays just fine with the controllers supplied too.

Please don’t buy the ATgames version for a gamer!

Xenji · 05-12-2019 11:01am

I see that Lidl on their website are advertising the Flashback console and are using an image of the official Mini's box.

B.A._Baracus · 05-12-2019 1:03pm

Appears hackers are working on finally getting this hacked. Something called "Project Lunar"

1o059k7ewrqj3n · 05-12-2019 5:38pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Appears hackers are working on finally getting this hacked. Something called "Project Lunar"

Yeah that looks the most promising. The machine is underclocked so I think they'll address that, and focus on being able to add new games to the stock UI. I think a lot of people just want to be able to add new games within the same interface, so the artwork fits in and everything. They don't necessarily want to run multiple emulators off it. I'd be happy just playing Sega games on it, maybe 32X or Sega CD perhaps as well, but mostly Mega Drive.

DelBoy Trotter · 05-12-2019 6:04pm

Steyr 556 wrote: »

Yeah that looks the most promising. The machine is underclocked so I think they'll address that, and focus on being able to add new games to the stock UI. I think a lot of people just want to be able to add new games within the same interface, so the artwork fits in and everything. They don't necessarily want to run multiple emulators off it. I'd be happy just playing Sega games on it, maybe 32X or Sega CD perhaps as well, but mostly Mega Drive.

I'd be a very, very, very casual gamer at best, but the ability to add Mega Drive games to it is all I want for a hack. If that happens, I will probably pull the trigger on buying one

Sega Megadrive mini

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