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Naming and Shaming bad debts = bad form?

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  • #102
    mickste
    Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭mickste


    very good post rory.

    Jay best of luck getting your money back. I was in a near identical situation with said individual. The lies and stories bothered me a lot more rather than the fact it was a while coming back. I got on well with the guy, but the more stories i heard off other known boardsies the more it irriated me.I did recieve the money owed but this was after a long process.

    He's burnt all bridges regarding staking off other well known players. Jay I believe you will get your money back, the guy is decent but has been digging deeper holes regarding his debt.I'm not going to be naive and say it could be soon because it's not but i do think he intends too.

    Anybody who has played with Jay knows his integrity and etiquitte on the poker table is an example to all. These posters who have no idea about jay or said individual are talking rubbish . I don't think naming posters who owe significant sums should be discouraged if all other avenues have been exhausted beforehand.

    Best of luck in the future Jay
    see you soon. mick


  • #103
    bottom feeder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭bottom feeder


    mickste wrote: »
    very good post rory.

    Jay best of luck getting your money back. I was in a near identical situation with said individual. The lies and stories bothered me a lot more rather than the fact it was a while coming back. I got on well with the guy, but the more stories i heard off other known boardsies the more it irriated me.I did recieve the money owed but this was after a long process.

    He's burnt all bridges regarding staking off other well known players. Jay I believe you will get your money back, the guy is decent but has been digging deeper holes regarding his debt.I'm not going to be naive and say it could be soon because it's not but i do think he intends too.

    Anybody who has played with Jay knows his integrity and etiquitte on the poker table is an example to all. These posters who have no idea about jay or said individual are talking rubbish . I don't think naming posters who owe significant sums should be discouraged if all other avenues have been exhausted beforehand.

    Best of luck in the future Jay
    see you soon. mick


    Well said Mick


  • #104
    mormank
    Registered Users Posts: 4,570 ✭✭✭mormank


    SpencerJames wrote: »
    I'v been reading through this with alot of disbelief. Most of the posters on here don't know the situation that Jay brought up at all. To say that it was an irrational thing for Jay to do and that he should of taken other sublte lines is naive in the extreme. Do you not think that this was a post by a man who had tried everything. A post by a man, who had given the benefit of the doubt too many times and that had been "cool" bout the situation and was now at his last resort?

    Since I'v been around the Dublin poker scene which is only the last year I have been appauled by the amount of people borrowing money and lending money. It is one thing for you to have no cash on your person and ask a friend for a few quid to play a cash game after busting out of a tournament etc. But to ask for money and in alot of cases like this one, ask for a substantial amount in order to keep playing is wrong and stinks of degenercy. Now I know alot of people on here have both borrowed and given money to keep playing and would disagree on the basis that the poker world is built on money exchanging hands in good faith. Well that is all well and good but I continually hear that money has not been paid back. This is a problem, a cancer on our poker society and such people should be ostricized in my opinion as they give poker a bad name and let it live up to its seedy underground sterotype that people have struggled to remove. In my opinon Jay could of made a breakthrough here and that more people should be encouraged to feel that they can name people if they think it will help get there money back. Scary thought for all you sick individuals who leech off trusting and good people. You know who you are, railing the big cash games and final tables. " you coming out for a smoke" etc. You should seek help and now be scared because people will no longer keep quiet about this nasty plague on the poker world.

    I know Jay and he is a stand up guy, this was his last resort and I know he wouldn't of felt good doing this. It was merely to warn people about the dangers of lending money and to this person especially. Also he thought that it might shame him into repaying the loan and if not maybe he might realsie that he has a problem and seek help. I dont think it was bad form and certainly not a dicision he made lightly.


    some harsh words but alot of truth in this imo


  • #105
    nicnicnic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭nicnicnic


    SpencerJames wrote: »

    . Scary thought for all you sick individuals who leech off trusting and good people. You know who you are, railing the big cash games and final tables. " you coming out for a smoke" etc. You should seek help and now be scared because people will no longer keep quiet about this nasty plague on the poker world.

    .

    lol a bit melodramatic, this sounds like script from a bad movie, i can just see schwarzenegger busting into to the jackpot to sort out any nipping


  • #106
    RoundTower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    perhaps instead of locking the original thread you could have merged it with this thread?


  • #107
    RichieLawlor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭RichieLawlor


    dagunman wrote: »
    Then there are another host of degen's who are saying its bad form as there bricking it that they will be next to be outed.

    You have some f***in attitude problem as far as i can see. Everything you write reads like your head is shoved up your own ****


  • #108
    5starpool
    Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    ffs, calm down.


  • #109
    Macspower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,193 ✭✭✭Macspower


    Low content here from me....

    Been watching this one with interest as I myself am owed a few quid by dublins regs with no sign ever of getting it back but it's not any substantial ammount...

    Firstly Jay is a real stand up guy and I'm 100% sure he wouldn't do this lightly.. I'm sorry it had to come to this and I hope you get it back soon.. I don't know the other party involved so cant comment...

    While I don't like the method I'm sure he had his reasons for it.... and don't see it as a problem if (and I'm sure it all is) it's as described....

    I'm 100% sure that if the guy came to Jay and said listen .... hard times.....broke...... etc etc.... here's a few bob off it and i'll have more at the end of the month or something that would have been fine.... but getting ignored is the worst...


  • #110
    YULETIRED
    Registered Users Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭YULETIRED


    Mac, remember that letterbox thief and your 7 iron.......why not bring the ol club into the SE (put it down yer trousers and walk like a nazi to confuse the doormen)
    then go to the cash tables and request yer cash whilst taking a few practice swings.....btw I'm suing you, the ipod I got from you has caused partial deafness in my right ear, they should carry an acdc warning , black on black did the damage I think.


  • #111
    BigCityBanker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    nicnicnic wrote: »
    lol a bit melodramatic, this sounds like script from a bad movie, i can just see schwarzenegger busting into to the jackpot to sort out any nipping

    lol Nicky, this is pretty much how it happens in the SE with one regular degenerate.


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  • #112
    Glowingmind
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭Glowingmind


    I'm glad i'm broke


  • #113
    Jayminator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭Jayminator


    Trippie wrote: »


    I guess what i am trying to say is that while it is wrong to renage on the repayments( then again we are not even sure if he has renaged on them as of yet, there just might not be the funds available to repay the loan although it appears this hasnt been the case.) a thought should be spared for the person himself as i doubt any of the people on this forum could contemplate the loses that this person in particular suffered over a short period a while back. The strain of this must have affected him quite a lot and perhaps hasnt been thinking straight since.


    Gordon are you for fkn real man. ''then again we are not sure he has renaged on them as of yet''....... This guy was bailed out recently and I never even got as much as a phone call or even a down fkn payment off the loan. I have already stated that if the guy came to me and said he was broke then it would of gone no further. Except he never bothered to come to me..... I should not need to go looking for him for payment. I should not of needed to post such a thread. The ''funds'' were made available to pay off other people and I was not on that list. Yet instead of admitting that he was broke he continued on his charade of the high roller which just simply stinks imo.

    On 4 or 5 seperate occasions via phone calls texts and actual face to face meetings I was told I would get the money back. At each of those face to face meetings he fkd off back to the pub, never answered his phone, had me waiting in Drogheda for hours while he told me he had the money, never turned up in Drogheda on time and when he did turn up he fkd off cos I was there looking for my money. On another occasion in the Sporting Emporium he was caught on the hop as he never expected me to be there. (he was drunk).. He told me he was going down to the cash desk and would be back in a few minutes with the loot... He fkd off again.... Ask my bllx about sparing a thought for him will ya. With regard to ''sparing a thought'' for this person, I have spared quite a few thoughts and none of them positive.

    The fact that this person suffered huge losses over a short period of time is a clear indication of the real problem. It was his degeneracy that caused the losses end of story and nothing to do with running bad etc etc.

    Jay


  • #114
    thechamp87
    Registered Users Posts: 970 ✭✭✭thechamp87


    RichieLawlor wrote: »
    You have some f***in attitude problem as far as i can see. Everything you write reads like your head is shoved up your own ****

    lol. LOL.


  • #115
    zuber
    Registered Users Posts: 39 ✭zuber


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Well all I can say is that I personally retrieved moneys owed to me from a crack addict when I lived in the US, and I did not have to tell everybody about it either.

    This is not a joke btw. And clearly I didn't know he was a junkie when I gave him the money.

    I personally believe that those who do not have the stones to get their money back are the ones who get stung.
    They go around talking behind peoples backs but not to their face as they would lead to you believe they did.

    yea right a crack addict repaid a loan because yoy have the stones to go after him/her probably preformed a service for you


  • #116
    Lazare
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭Lazare


    Howyiz


  • #117
    Flushdraw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭Flushdraw


    Lazare wrote: »
    Howyiz

    Was wondering when you were going to show your face. Where's that score you on me? It's been almost 7 years. Pay up man ffs :mad:


  • #118
    Tar.Aldarion
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Lazare owes me a pint, hang him up.


  • #119
    Wacker The Attacker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    Neither a borrower nor a lender be.


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