Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2020/2021

KaiserGunner · 11-12-2019 5:21pm

Various accounts on Twitter are saying that Tierney dislocated his shoulder and could be having surgery, which would rule him out for 3 months. What a disaster if true. Who else other than Kolasinac can play left back now? Maitland-Niles has a few times before, but it’s not ideal.

Gizmo55 · 11-12-2019 5:25pm

KaiserGunner wrote: »

Various accounts on Twitter are saying that Tierney dislocated his shoulder and could be having surgery, which would rule him out for 3 months. What a disaster if true. Who else other than Kolasinac can play left back now? Maitland-Niles has a few times before, but it’s not ideal.

Kolasinac has improved recently. It's not ideal, but not panic stations by any means imo. We're shorter at right back.

Gizmo55 · 11-12-2019 5:38pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Oh yes I did. Thought it was poetic justice myself.

Ffs.

gscully · 11-12-2019 5:46pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Oh yes I did. Thought it was poetic justice myself.

Maybe it's just me, but as far as I'm concerned, none of our players deserve harm.

greendom · 11-12-2019 5:47pm

KaiserGunner wrote: »

Various accounts on Twitter are saying that Tierney dislocated his shoulder and could be having surgery, which would rule him out for 3 months. What a disaster if true. Who else other than Kolasinac can play left back now? Maitland-Niles has a few times before, but it’s not ideal.

Pepe hurt his knee too and is not travelling to Belgium (no loss). Hopefully he'll be back for City - he could really hurt them. James really got at the City defence last weekend.

tayto lover · 11-12-2019 6:25pm

gscully wrote: »

Maybe it's just me, but as far as I'm concerned, none of our players deserve harm.

Well players like Xhaka who are clearly afraid I have no time for.
It wasn’t the first time he cowered out either.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 11-12-2019 6:31pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Well players like Xhaka who are clearly afraid I have no time for.
It wasn’t the first time he cowered out either.

Hes a pussy. If a fella ducked out like that on a Sunday morning the whole team would chew him out of it. Xhaka is a pro... well supposed to be.

tayto lover · 11-12-2019 6:36pm

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Hes a pussy. If a fella ducked out like that on a Sunday morning the whole team would chew him out of it. Xhaka is a pro... well supposed to be.

Saw a lad in Local league getting his nose broken when blocking a goal bound shot. He even refused to leave the field for treatment. Not even getting paid for it.

tayto lover · 11-12-2019 6:39pm

OmegaGene wrote: »

Not a nice comment to make about one of our own players

He ducked out of a challenge which led to a goal.
He’s done it before.
No time for that wimp

Did you say “good man Xhaka at the time”?

bad2dabone · 11-12-2019 7:31pm

Xhaka is finished at the club. Needs to be gone. He doesn't have the mobility or most importantly commitment to be at the club. I don't want to see him hurt, I don't think him getting a concussion is justice. I just want him sold and a proper player bought instead who wants to be here and can do the job required.

derossi · 11-12-2019 8:25pm

All this new manager talk is funny, It's like a new man comes in and all will be well. Look at most managers in most clubs, they land in and it takes time to sort out the team in his image and then it may work or not. Klopp for example in his first 3/4 (quarter) season wasn't that great. It took time. None of this will be sorted this year, or maybe next. Get a manager in that has a plan and see what happens. The club could throw a fortune at players but that won't solve it. Building a league winning team takes years.

11-12-2019 9:41pm

Xhaka with concussion??? It could work the opposite. It might actually make a player of him :pac:

On a serious note though, while its a serious condition and strictly from a human point of view I wish him a speedy recovery, he's no real loss to the team. Horrible reckless player with a chip on his shoulder. Sums up the insanity at Arsenal FC

tayto lover · 11-12-2019 9:50pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Xhaka with concussion??? It could work the opposite. It might actually make a player of him :pac:

On a serious note though, while its a serious condition and strictly from a human point of view I wish him a speedy recovery, he's no real loss to the team. Horrible reckless player with a chip on his shoulder. Sums up the insanity at Arsenal FC

Have seen things like that happen before.
Players pulling out of tackles, headers etc so as not to get injured and then something freakish happens like getting hit on the head by a ball that was going to someone else. It’s a kind of Karma. He’s only reckless when he slides into an opposing player, never does it any other way, always a sneaky slide in. Last Tuesday finished me with him.

emmetlego · 11-12-2019 9:56pm

Gnabry is ripping Spurs asunder!

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 11-12-2019 10:08pm

emmetlego wrote: »

Gnabry is ripping Spurs asunder!

He looks absolutely class.

omega man · 11-12-2019 10:37pm

Early days for José but spurs look as sh1t as they’ve been all season.

FixitFelix · 11-12-2019 10:41pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Thought he injured his neck ducking out of the way.
Wonder how he got the concussion?

Nothing to say on the fact that AMN turned away for westhams first goal? Or do you just have a hard on for xhaka?

Quazzie · 11-12-2019 10:43pm

Bayern Munich started without a striker tonight and still scored 3 against Spurs.

FixitFelix · 11-12-2019 10:45pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Have seen things like that happen before.
Players pulling out of tackles, headers etc so as not to get injured and then something freakish happens like getting hit on the head by a ball that was going to someone else. It’s a kind of Karma. He’s only reckless when he slides into an opposing player, never does it any other way, always a sneaky slide in. Last Tuesday finished me with him.

So you're saying he shouldn't get injured from getting hit with the ball, but should only get injured for going in for tackles and headers, but then say he's reckless going in for sliding tackles? I think you're hatred for xhaka has you talking nonsense

tayto lover · 11-12-2019 10:50pm

FixitFelix wrote: »

So you're saying he shouldn't get injured from getting hit with the ball, but should only get injured for going in for tackles and headers, but then say he's reckless going in for sliding tackles? I think you're hatred for xhaka has you talking nonsense

I think you need to read it again ..... slowly.

tayto lover · 11-12-2019 10:53pm

FixitFelix wrote: »

Nothing to say on the fact that AMN turned away for westhams first goal? Or do you just have a hard on for xhaka?

AMN is a very poor player who was playing out of position. He’s not a great player either. Have spoken about him before.
Xhaka is the captain and supposed to be the leader but has previous episodes of yellow fever.

emmetlego · 11-12-2019 10:56pm

FixitFelix wrote: »

So you're saying he shouldn't get injured from getting hit with the ball, but should only get injured for going in for tackles and headers, but then say he's reckless going in for sliding tackles? I think you're hatred for xhaka has you talking nonsense

I'm not defending any other poster here, before anybody thinks I am. Xhaka was very poor the other night. Again. Some of his passing was ludicrous and some of his tackling wicked. He's not good enough for us. We don't have another midfielder who links the play between defence and attack like him though, but the other duties of the midfielder, he is very poor at. I never played the game as I'm quite old now and the ladies game was non existent in my time. But my hubby and all my sons play it. I've been at 1000's of coaching sessions and games, what he does is just so wrong. It's actually defying human logic. I've yet to speak to a coach or pro who disagrees with me. He has attributes that our team needs, but his faults are like those of Luiz and Mustafi, plain catastrophic.

I made a comment a good while back in jest about wishing a player got injured as he was so poor, ended up getting a ban because I used a slang word to describe the poster I was jousting with, so I'll be much more careful now. I don't wish actual harm, especially a head injury, to any of our current players, but I genuinely hope the club does it's level best to replace Xhaka this January along with a centre half. That's the minimum requirement. I don't care who is in charge, but this is the minimum.

FixitFelix · 11-12-2019 11:27pm

tayto lover wrote: »

AMN is a very poor player who was playing out of position. He’s not a great player either. Have spoken about him before.
Xhaka is the captain and supposed to be the leader but has previous episodes of yellow fever.

Playing out if position is an excuse for turning your back?

FixitFelix · 11-12-2019 11:28pm

tayto lover wrote: »

I think you need to read it again ..... slowly.

I don't need to read it again, was a ridiculous comment first time round.

FixitFelix · 11-12-2019 11:31pm

emmetlego wrote: »

I'm not defending any other poster here, before anybody thinks I am. Xhaka was very poor the other night. Again. Some of his passing was ludicrous and some of his tackling wicked. He's not good enough for us. We don't have another midfielder who links the play between defence and attack like him though, but the other duties of the midfielder, he is very poor at. I never played the game as I'm quite old now and the ladies game was non existent in my time. But my hubby and all my sons play it. I've been at 1000's of coaching sessions and games, what he does is just so wrong. It's actually defying human logic. I've yet to speak to a coach or pro who disagrees with me. He has attributes that our team needs, but his faults are like those of Luiz and Mustafi, plain catastrophic.

I made a comment a good while back in jest about wishing a player got injured as he was so poor, ended up getting a ban because I used a slang word to describe the poster I was jousting with, so I'll be much more careful now. I don't wish actual harm, especially a head injury, to any of our current players, but I genuinely hope the club does it's level best to replace Xhaka this January along with a centre half. That's the minimum requirement. I don't care who is in charge, but this is the minimum.

All the players listed above are not good enough for Arsenal far from it, but some of the posts on here are becoming ridiculous.

tayto lover · 11-12-2019 11:36pm

FixitFelix wrote: »

I don't need to read it again, was a ridiculous comment first time round.

No your explanation of my post was ridiculous.
You didn’t read it properly or else have literacy problems.

FixitFelix · 11-12-2019 11:41pm

tayto lover wrote: »

No your explanation of my post was ridiculous.
You didn’t read it properly or else have literacy problems.

Neither of the above, I know exactly what your comment meant and it was ridiculous. Maybe you should read it back

tayto lover · 11-12-2019 11:42pm

FixitFelix wrote: »

Neither of the above, I know exactly what your comment meant and it was ridiculous. Maybe you should read it back

No you don’t. Tell the truth, you read it wrong and are not man enough to back out.

callaway92 · 11-12-2019 11:45pm

omega man wrote: »

Early days for José but spurs look as sh1t as they’ve been all season.

Bit unfair on them given 2 of their starting 4 defenders haven’t played any proper football recently. Even Danny Rose hasn’t, so that’s 3.

Then you have Lo Celso and Sessegnon that have played f all either

FixitFelix · 11-12-2019 11:46pm

tayto lover wrote: »

No you don’t. Tell the truth, you read it wrong and are not man enough to back out.

If I was wrong I'd admit it but I'm not, and have no intentions of going round in circles with ye.

tayto lover · 11-12-2019 11:48pm

FixitFelix wrote: »

If I was wrong I'd admit it but I'm not, and have no intentions of going round in circles with ye.

Try reading it again. Then you can come back and admit you were wrong, or just back away. I’ll understand.

FixitFelix · 11-12-2019 11:49pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Try reading it again. Then you can come back and admit you were wrong, or just back away. I’ll understand.

Is there an echo in here?

tayto lover · 11-12-2019 11:51pm

FixitFelix wrote: »

Is there an echo in here?

It’s a reverberation.

Steve · 12-12-2019 12:04am

The bar is closed, go home and relax.

Seriously, folks tomorrow is a new day, no need to get yourself banned for a silly argument

emmetlego · 12-12-2019 12:12am

That escalated quickly!

brianregan09 · 12-12-2019 12:27am

New Thread same old same old , we should be all together supporting the team lads not constantly bickering

tayto lover · 12-12-2019 12:45am

brianregan09 wrote: »

New Thread same old same old , we should be all together supporting the team lads not constantly bickering

Indeed but we have to be allowed dissect a performance and offer opinions.
As long as we don’t breach the charter.

Gringo180 · 12-12-2019 2:21am

Ill lose all faith if the club bring in Ancelotti. Would remind me of the Luiz signing in the summer, bringing in a manager thats a good half decade past his best and not changing from that status quo. We need an authoritarian figure as our next manager, somebody thats going to get this bunch of under achievers disciplined and getting the best out of them, especially our defenders.

We need to go back to basics and start from the back and make this team hard to beat.

MonsterCookie · 12-12-2019 12:09pm

Really hope we can get a win tonight. Would be good after all the sh1t recently if we could top the group.

Evil_Clown · 12-12-2019 1:07pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Ill lose all faith if the club bring in Ancelotti. Would remind me of the Luiz signing in the summer, bringing in a manager thats a good half decade past his best and not changing from that status quo. We need an authoritarian figure as our next manager, somebody thats going to get this bunch of under achievers disciplined and getting the best out of them, especially our defenders.

We need to go back to basics and start from the back and make this team hard to beat.

I agree and the Ornacle says the club are not interested Ancelotti thankfully

David Ornstein
@David_Ornstein

Fluid/changeable but current sense:
- Arsenal want situation settled asap but right man over quick decision
- If No1 pick available, gets done
- If available in summer, FL holds fort
- If No1 pick unclear, FL holds fort + has chance to impress
- #AFC not seeking Ancelotti profile

beer enigma · 12-12-2019 1:33pm

I think it's between Arteta and Vieira personally. Out of the two I'd prefer Arteta but it's a big risk for any ex player.

I allways wanted Pep, I'm hoping Arteta has learned enough and in a few years we could be the new English Barca

Ok in an optimist, but we've always had that European flair and Arteta may, just may unlock that.

tayto lover · 12-12-2019 1:51pm

beer enigma wrote: »

I think it's between Arteta and Vieira personally. Out of the two I'd prefer Arteta but it's a big risk for any ex player.

I allways wanted Pep, I'm hoping Arteta has learned enough and in a few years we could be the new English Barca

Ok in an optimist, but we've always had that European flair and Arteta may, just may unlock that.

I read somewhere that Arteta was contemplating a move to the US as his wife and kids are there. She is an actress.
Don’t know if he’s the man for Arsenal anyway. He seems too easy going for us and as someone else already said, we need a disciplinarian who will change the culture.

beer enigma · 12-12-2019 2:08pm

tayto lover wrote: »

I read somewhere that Arteta was contemplating a move to the US as his wife and kids are there. She is an actress.
Don’t know if he’s the man for Arsenal anyway. He seems too easy going for us and as someone else already said, we need a disciplinarian who will change the culture.

Not sure about his wife but I agree on the disciplinarian, I suspect Edu is heavily involved in this and is be amazed if its a not an ex arsenal man

davycc · 12-12-2019 2:28pm

Ye boys are on virgin media two for free.
Program starting 530 early kickoff.

I don't mind arsenal either way I only hope rangers loose for the sake of humanity...

beer enigma · 12-12-2019 2:39pm

Just on a separate note, for those on Twitter or frequent the Gunners Pub, @thegoonerholic is back in hospital and it's terminal. All round good guy, lifetime fan, gentleman.

I'm not a religious guy but delighted to see the club and Freddie send messages, give him a thought today lads if ye get a moment.

correction · 12-12-2019 2:45pm

beer enigma wrote: »

Just on a separate note, for those on Twitter or frequent the Gunners Pub, @thegoonerholic is back in hospital and it's terminal. All round good guy, lifetime fan, gentleman.

I'm not a religious guy but delighted to see the club and Freddie send messages, give him a thought today lads if ye get a moment.

I had seen this last night and was taken aback. I only knew him from twitter but he always seemed a genuine gentleman. Well spoken, well learned and a true diehard Gooner. Heart warming to see the club and Freddie personally send well wishes and I hope should the worst occur we can get a minute silence for him in the ground.

beer enigma · 12-12-2019 2:54pm

correction wrote: »

I had seen this last night and was taken aback. I only knew him from twitter but he always seemed a genuine gentleman. Well spoken, well learned and a true diehard Gooner. Heart warming to see the club and Freddie personally send well wishes and I hope should the worst occur we can get a minute silence for him in the ground.

Thanks, known him in the Gunners for 20 years, thought he'd beaten in in November but alas. The club responding shows me were not totally lost

emergingstar · 12-12-2019 3:22pm

Wonder is there still a chance we get poch

beer enigma · 12-12-2019 6:05pm

emergingstar wrote: »

Wonder is there still a chance we get poch

Can't see it and he also seems to have a clause that he pays back the £12m severance if he jobs another prem club this year and I definitely can't see us paying that

Mr.Nice Guy · 12-12-2019 6:21pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Ill lose all faith if the club bring in Ancelotti. Would remind me of the Luiz signing in the summer, bringing in a manager thats a good half decade past his best and not changing from that status quo. We need an authoritarian figure as our next manager, somebody thats going to get this bunch of under achievers disciplined and getting the best out of them, especially our defenders.

We need to go back to basics and start from the back and make this team hard to beat.

Gobsmacked at this take. A half decade past his best? Ancelotti has gotten the better of Klopp twice in the space of 12 months. Would be an excellent addition for any Premier League side and would do everything you claim there to want to see happen at Arsenal.

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