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MrStuffins · 23-04-2019 7:22pm

The Nal wrote: »

What a tool. I hope he comes back and gets sparked again.

The Fail though - "Till, who last fought in May against Jorge Masvidal"

That hook blasted Till into last year!

Ultimate Seduction · 26-04-2019 5:07am

John Kavanagh liked this tweet. Tin foil hat time

https://twitter.com/JelcicLuka/status/1121349128317960192?s=19

Ush1 · 26-04-2019 11:17am

Why tin foil hat? John was well looked after by Conor from my understanding.

Gamb!t · 26-04-2019 1:59pm

Ush1 wrote: »

Why tin foil hat? John was well looked after by Conor from my understanding.

Maybe things changed?

billybonkers · 27-04-2019 9:36am

Gamb!t wrote: »

Maybe things changed?

Maybe he is just liking it in support?

ASOT · 30-04-2019 1:57pm

I'd say TJ wished he was a boxer rather than an mma fighter, Jarrell Miller only got a 6 month ban for filing three different tests, one for epo. That's mental.

ASOT · 01-05-2019 9:40pm

https://twitter.com/JeffNovitzkyUFC/status/1123686242124738560?s=19

Zero-Cool · 01-05-2019 10:34pm

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh/status/1123660141038112769?s=19

ASOT · 03-05-2019 10:09am

USADA are about to send a swat team to Costas house.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw_kyFBBLlV

Ush1 · 03-05-2019 10:38am

Christ, looks like the bleedin' hulk!

xckjoo · 03-05-2019 11:24am

Ush1 wrote: »

Christ, looks like the bleedin' hulk!

No need to collect blood and urine sample there! Just wave the test in his general direction

Ush1 · 03-05-2019 1:18pm

xckjoo wrote: »

No need to collect blood and urine sample there! Just wave the test in his general direction

His p*ss will melt the cup!

ASOT · 03-05-2019 7:56pm

Weird record has been broken by Bobby Knuckles today, the longest time a champ has held the belt without defending it. Unfortunate considering Romero missed weight and doesn't count. 512 days taking over from McGregors 511.

Squatter · 06-05-2019 12:32pm

Conor gets around.

(Pro 14 Rugby awards night in Dublin on Saturday)

But didn't he say something nasty about gays recently? Presumably Nigel has forgiven him.

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Ultimate Seduction · 06-05-2019 1:13pm

Squatter wrote: »

Conor gets around.

(Pro 14 Rugby awards night in Dublin on Saturday)

But didn't he say something nasty about gays recently? Presumably Nigel has forgiven him.

Can you clarify what he said? Being gay doesn't make one a snowflake either, maybe he doesn't give a funk

Mellor · 06-05-2019 1:32pm

I assume he's he talking about a slur he used to refer to somebody, who wasn't gay. Butbnitbas that was 2017

There was also this "accusation".

"I’m starting to think this guy has a thing for me, it's kind of a weird vibe I’m getting from him.

"Why do you want me to think about you so much when I don’t need to? Why am I always on your mind?

"I'm starting to feel like it's a weird gay thing, as a man I have my rights and I don’t like another man coming on to me.

"I don’t go that way and I have the right to be a straight man.

Paulie was getting desparate at that point. Before the Artem payday came along.

weldoninhio · 06-05-2019 1:40pm

Mellor wrote: »

I assume he's he talking about a slur he used to refer to somebody, who wasn't gay. Butbnitbas that was 2017

There was also this "accusation".

Paulie was getting desparate at that point. Before the Artem payday came along.

Didn’t he also constantly refer to someone who’d battered Artem as a fagg*t

pastorbarrett · 06-05-2019 1:55pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

Didn’t he also constantly refer to someone who’d battered Artem as a fagg*t

He did. Certainly not his finest hour. He did publicly support marriage referendum, however.

Ultimate Seduction · 06-05-2019 2:04pm

So he insulted someone who wasn't gay, how does this make him homophobic? I don't think someone who's homophobic would publicly push the gay marriage referendum and celebrate the result.

Mellor · 06-05-2019 2:13pm

Didn’t he also constantly refer to someone who’d battered Artem as a fagg*t

That's literally what the first paragraph in my post referred to.

Fall_Guy · 06-05-2019 2:42pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

So he insulted someone who wasn't gay, how does this make him homophobic? I don't think someone who's homophobic would publicly push the gay marriage referendum and celebrate the result.

Didn't you know? Everyone who is thoughtless / careless / ignorant / ill-informed enough to have ever used a gay slur to refer to someone they feel lacked bravery is a gay-hating monster, even if there's clear evidence to suggest otherwise......so that's everyone who was ever a teenage boy in Ireland up to about 5 years ago we can write off as being straight up homophobes so. Its great. What a time to be alive.

CatFromHue · 06-05-2019 3:16pm

How did he end up going to the Pro14 awards night?

pastorbarrett · 06-05-2019 3:18pm

Does what he wants.

Squatter · 06-05-2019 3:19pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Can you clarify what he said? Being gay doesn't make one a snowflake either, maybe he doesn't give a funk

No I can't. I wouldn't be much of a follower of McGregor's quasi-literate social media scribblings.

But I recall reading a report about him tweeting something that, even by his sewer-level standards, was offensive to gay people.

LollipopJimmy · 06-05-2019 3:49pm

pastorbarrett wrote: »

Does what he wants.

Laughed out loud

Ash.J.Williams · 06-05-2019 4:27pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

How did he end up going to the Pro14 awards night?

Suv

Squatter · 07-05-2019 10:02am

CatFromHue wrote: »

How did he end up going to the Pro14 awards night?

Free bar?

Donald Trump · 07-05-2019 11:06am

Fall_Guy wrote: »

Didn't you know? Everyone who is thoughtless / careless / ignorant / ill-informed enough to have ever used a gay slur to refer to someone they feel lacked bravery is a gay-hating monster, even if there's clear evidence to suggest otherwise......so that's everyone who was ever a teenage boy in Ireland up to about 5 years ago we can write off as being straight up homophobes so. Its great. What a time to be alive.

Well to be fair, your comparison is irrelevant.

You are entitled to agree with what he said or to think that people should be allowed to say whatever they want without repercussion. Or even you might say that he didn't say those things.

But you can't really justify what a grown man says by comparing it to a group of 13 or 14 year kids talking shite.

Donald Trump · 07-05-2019 11:06am

pastorbarrett wrote: »

Does what he wants.

There are limits...................

07-05-2019 11:40am

CatFromHue wrote: »

How did he end up going to the Pro14 awards night?

yep - thought normal society was giving him a wide berth in general.

Ultimate Seduction · 07-05-2019 2:18pm

Love how McGregor is claiming the 1billion in sales. That's all Irish whiskeys. You can be sure Proper twelve accounts for a tiny percentage of that 1bn

ASOT · 07-05-2019 2:52pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Love how McGregor is claiming the 1billion in sales. That's all Irish whiskeys. You can be sure Proper twelve accounts for a tiny percentage of that 1bn

That's exactly why he posts that nonsense so people post it everywhere. Free publicity.

He tweeted this earlier.

https://twitter.com/mookiealexander/status/1125509616815632385?s=19

07-05-2019 6:33pm

Conor McGregor. Twitter Diva.

Fall_Guy · 08-05-2019 4:53pm

Donald Trump wrote: »

Fall_Guy wrote: »

Didn't you know? Everyone who is thoughtless / careless / ignorant / ill-informed enough to have ever used a gay slur to refer to someone they feel lacked bravery is a gay-hating monster, even if there's clear evidence to suggest otherwise......so that's everyone who was ever a teenage boy in Ireland up to about 5 years ago we can write off as being straight up homophobes so. Its great. What a time to be alive.

Well to be fair, your comparison is irrelevant.

You are entitled to agree with what he said or to think that people should be allowed to say whatever they want without repercussion. Or even you might say that he didn't say those things.

But you can't really justify what a grown man says by comparing it to a group of 13 or 14 year kids talking shite.

Yeah that's a fair enough shout. I'll revise that sentence and instead replace teenage lads to "the vast majority of males I interacted with up to about 5 years ago".

The general point being a certain level of ignorance/ thoughtlessness does not necessarily amount to homophobia I'm my opinion.

xtal191 · 09-05-2019 9:53pm

https://twitter.com/Taisumov155/status/1126123282045050880

The Nal · 10-05-2019 9:43am

Taisumov has no right to be saying anything

Mellor · 10-05-2019 10:26am

McGregor called him out for PED use. He popped for Winstrol last year.
His suspension was up on Wednesday, obviously just trying to put himself about.

Ultimate Seduction · 17-05-2019 7:03am

He's busy solving the housing crisis.. fair play to him though.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxitTW9oxUe/?igshid=1trcocufephjq

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John_D80 · 17-05-2019 7:51am

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

He's busy solving the housing crisis.. fair play to him though.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxitTW9oxUe/?igshid=1trcocufephjq

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This is fantastic. First I’d heard of it.

Is he paying for these 8 homes himself?

Ush1 · 17-05-2019 8:24am

I must be cynical. If he is buying those houses outright and giving them to those people that's a great act of generosity.

I wonder though is he selling the houses to the council or renting the houses out under the HAP scheme?

ASOT · 17-05-2019 8:27am

Ush1 wrote: »

I must be cynical. If he is buying those houses outright and giving them to those people that's a great act of generosity.

I wonder though is he selling the houses to the council or renting the houses out under the HAP scheme?

Even if it's the latter it's a hell of a good thing to do that he doesn't have to do at all.

He gets well deserved flac for certain things and rightly so but hopefully he gets the recognition for this he deserves. It isn't the first time he done something for the homeless situation Ireland either and I'd imagine he does alot that goes unreported as it seems to be something he genuinely cares about.

Donald Trump · 17-05-2019 10:54am

I wouldn't make assumptions either way. Not really any info in that post about the houses:

3 bedroom houses, designated for families that currently reside in hotels around the capital, without a home to call their own.

Could just mean that those were the conditions of the planning permission. Not that any one person designated them as such unilaterally. Or as someone else mentioned, there might be schemes where developers put up the capital and build with a contract to let to Council.

Ush1 · 17-05-2019 11:06am

ASOT wrote: »

Even if it's the latter it's a hell of a good thing to do that he doesn't have to do at all.

He gets well deserved flac for certain things and rightly so but hopefully he gets the recognition for this he deserves. It isn't the first time he done something for the homeless situation Ireland either and I'd imagine he does alot that goes unreported as it seems to be something he genuinely cares about.

If it's the latter it's not a charitable exercise, it's for profit. Nothing wrong with that, people need homes and businesses need to make money but I'm not sure what way his social media post is trying to frame it.

bmcc10 · 17-05-2019 11:08am

From building houses to the bighouse the next day

Mellor · 17-05-2019 11:19am

Ush1 wrote: »

If it's the latter it's not a charitable exercise, it's for profit.

Not really.
Social/Affordable house isn't really profitable. Which is why no developers target the backlog on the waiting list. Probably doing well to break even, unless Dublin costs have changed since I left.

But if a "developer" was willing to make a loss from the start.You could achieve much more with a $200k loss than you ever would with a $200k donation to a charity.

Ush1 · 17-05-2019 11:33am

Mellor wrote: »

Not really.
Social/Affordable house isn't really profitable. Which is why no developers target the backlog on the waiting list. Probably doing well to break even, unless Dublin costs have changed since I left.

But if a "developer" was willing to make a loss from the start.You could achieve much more with a $200k loss than you ever would with a $200k donation to a charity.

Who says the housing is social or affordable? I can tell you renting to the council under the HAP scheme is profitable as I know a few landlords with HAP tenants.

Even if the council purchased the houses outright from McGregor he would still make a profit easily.

Mellor · 17-05-2019 12:04pm

Ush1 wrote: »

Who says the housing is social or affordable? I can tell you renting to the council under the HAP scheme is profitable as I know a few landlords with HAP tenants.

HAP is a form of social housing. But HAP is a contribution for normal properties.
Seems unlikely to be 8 normal houses for anyone.

Even if the council purchased the houses outright from McGregor he would still make a profit easily.

1. Build some houses
2. Sell to council
3. Profit

If it were that easy we'd all be millionaires.

Ush1 · 17-05-2019 12:30pm

Mellor wrote: »

HAP is a form of social housing. But HAP is a contribution for normal properties.
Seems unlikely to be 8 normal houses for anyone.

The ownership of the property is not socialised, the payment for rent is. It is a private landlord. Why do you think HAP is such a controversial scheme? People have accused that it's a government handout to private landlords.

Mellor wrote: »

1. Build some houses
2. Sell to council
3. Profit

If it were that easy we'd all be millionaires.

It's obviously not "that easy", do you have the capital to build houses or purchase land to begin with? You can apply this logic to any business.

Go to the property forum, you'll read many threads were people have been outbid on houses by the local council.

Donald Trump · 17-05-2019 12:56pm

Mellor wrote: »

HAP is a form of social housing. But HAP is a contribution for normal properties.
Seems unlikely to be 8 normal houses for anyone.

1. Build some houses
2. Sell to council
3. Profit

If it were that easy we'd all be millionaires.

Do you have access to the capital to purchase the sites, and build the houses?

Developers who made the big money during the boom, the likes of your man Johnny Ronan or Sean Dunne etc. are not geniuses (genii?) - they just have the contacts and knowledge which allow them to get access to capital to build.

For a "normal" person, if you do happen to have a spare million quid knocking about, you might not want to take the risk of putting it all in the one basket. If you have tens of millions of your own money, or a million quid of the Bank's money, you won't care so much about the risk.

Mellor · 17-05-2019 1:04pm

Ush1 wrote: »

The ownership of the property is not socialised, the payment for rent is. It is a private landlord. Why do you think HAP is such a controversial scheme? People have accused that it's a government handout to private landlords.

That's exactly what I described.

And like I said, there are no HAP properties. You can't build houses for HAP.
So that's unlikely to be what it is.

It's obviously not "that easy", do you have the capital to build houses or purchase land to begin with? You can apply this logic to any business.

And if have the capital the only obstacle to making a profit, it would be easy to get a loan.

Go to the property forum, you'll read many threads were people have been outbid on houses by the local council.

I'm not sure what your point is. I'm aware the council buy private houses.
That doesn't mean a developer can offload to the council for guaranteed profit.

Anyway, we've no details in the above. Pointless speculating.
Maybe they're all actors.

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