VeloCity 2019 Delegate reactions

Stark · 04-07-2019 10:17pm #1

It's good to see DCC's attempt to shield the Velocity delegates from the realities of cycling in Dublin by taking them on a nice jolly on the Clontarf to Sutton cycle path fell flat on its face.

A lot of harsh but fair reactions to the experience of cycling in Dublin.

https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2019/07/03/how-cycle-friendly-is-dublin/

https://twitter.com/sassefras88/status/1144008380186550272

https://pressfrom.info/uk/news/world/ireland/-345556-dublin-is-hosting-an-international-cycling-conference-and-some-delegates-have-called-the-city-a-brutal-street-battle.html

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1143798589380026368

https://twitter.com/GoddardTara/status/1144005002064736256

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1143220587260796932

But sure aren't we doing great because everyone has their helmets and hi-viz on https://twitter.com/RSAIreland/status/1144632351424688128/photo/1

Pinch Flat · 05-07-2019 12:12am

It was a bit like going on a trip to North Korea, they only chaperone you to the places they want you to see,

ED E · 05-07-2019 12:34am

Pinch Flat wrote: »

It was a bit like going on a trip to North Korea, they only chaperone you to the places they want you to see,

And then then IBD take you on the "only for the locals" tour.

Duckjob · 05-07-2019 11:27am

I'm just delighted that they were found out. I'm also delighted that outsiders can now clearly see the lack of political courage here that politicians would go to great lengths to try to cover up their inaction instead of having the courage to be real leaders to change our society for the better.

work · 06-07-2019 6:55pm

So the politicians and planners have been shown to be inept at their job and contemptuous in their actions towards cyclists. Unfortunately this is not knowledge to anyone that cycles in Ireland. What can we do to change this as they have no interest?

magicbastarder · 06-07-2019 8:57pm

Duckjob wrote: »

I'm just delighted that they were found out. I'm also delighted that outsiders can now clearly see the lack of political courage here that politicians would go to great lengths to try to cover up their inaction instead of having the courage to be real leaders to change our society for the better.

part of the problem is that to a large extent, provisioning of infrastructure is left to the councils and councillors. and the issue with that is that the benefit of something like the liffey cycle path is felt far more by people *not* living in the area than by people living in the area.
there's no point in my mate brian canvassing his local councillor for support for something which should make his life easier and safer, given that his local councillor is based in dublin 15, and has no say over something happening in the city centre.

i know dublin cycling campaign have been addressing this by getting businesses to sign up to the scheme calling for better infrastructure, but i don't know if this is as direct as one of the large employers in the IFSC contacting dublin city council and saying 'sort your **** out for the benefit of our staff'.

mvt · 06-07-2019 9:44pm

All good points but also important to remember "they" cant actually stop you from cycling.

I'm not sure if I'm being pessimistic or realistic but I don't really expect things to change, at least not anytime soon so I just try & get on with it.

work · 07-07-2019 1:53am

magicbastarder wrote: »

part of the the benefit of something like the liffey cycle path is felt far more by people *not* living in the area than by people living in the area.
there's no point '.

Really good point on not having a say and I would never have thought it!

Lackadaisical · 07-07-2019 2:28am

I get the impression that the RSA and councils really believed they were going to be getting praised for their approach. It's a fairly rude awakening.

Lewotsil · 07-07-2019 7:43am

Until 100% of cyclists and peds are wearing hi-vis .....the RSA will not stop !...... bunch of muppets

Borderfox · 07-07-2019 3:54pm

Lackadaisical wrote: »

I get the impression that the RSA and councils really believed they were going to be getting praised for their approach. It's a fairly rude awakening.

The RSA were bouyed up by their earlier award from the EU

Tenzor07 · 07-07-2019 4:07pm

Velocity Dublin in 2055; Ireland has stopped designing Cities and towns around the Motor Vehicle and have given the streets back to the people, pollution levels have dropped to keep us in line with EU commitments..

No wait... this is Utrecht today:

Bot1 · 08-07-2019 2:45pm

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Velocity Dublin in 2055; Ireland has stopped designing Cities and towns around the Motor Vehicle and have given the streets back to the people, pollution levels have dropped to keep us in line with EU commitments..

No wait... this is Utrecht today:

Not a helmet or high vis vest in sight!

Duckjob · 08-07-2019 3:39pm

Bot1 wrote: »

Not a helmet or high vis vest in sight!

Get those dangerous maniacs off the street quick before they cause one of those cyclist collisions that Mannix Flynn seems to be involved in every other week.

Type 17 · 10-07-2019 9:16am

Bot1 wrote: »

Not a helmet or high vis vest in sight!

Hi-vis (and hard-hats) are (rightly) mandatory on building sites, because you are mixing people and heavy machinery in a location where there is no finished infrastructure or defined pathways for movement - sounds familiar...

In Utrecht, the infrastructure is finished, so no need for building site outfits... :pac:

Pinch Flat · 10-07-2019 5:06pm

Type 17 wrote: »

Hi-vis (and hard-hats) are (rightly) mandatory on building sites, because you are mixing people and heavy machinery in a location where there is no finished infrastructure or defined pathways for movement - sounds familiar...

In Utrecht, the infrastructure is finished, so no need for building site outfits... :pac:

Completely overlooking of course that a helmet will do diddly squat if you're hit by a speeding motorist.....

AndrewJRenko · 14-07-2019 11:07am

Someone should tell the Velocity folks that the temporary bike parking installed at the Convention Centre for the event has been neatly removed - wouldn't want nasty people using bikes to get to their fancy events now, would they?

https://twitter.com/Paulcorcoran10/status/1141739256978771974

Rechuchote · 14-07-2019 12:21pm

It was only tied down with bits of plastic bags anyway - took a photo, but my phone is temporarily absent; I'll post it later if I remember.

Rechuchote · 21-07-2019 10:43am

Here we go - the little plastic bit of a bag tying down the bike stand at VeloCity 2019!

Stark · 21-07-2019 4:22pm

That's pretty depressing. Surprised they didn't install the wheel buckler racks to add insult to injury.

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