Ulster Team Talk Thread IV... Go On My Henderson...

Paul Smeenus · 15-11-2019 10:11pm

Also, Venjur is history's greatest monster.

15-11-2019 10:46pm

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

Also, Venjur is history's greatest monster.

bilston · 15-11-2019 11:04pm

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

Are we missing a single first choice player? There can be zero excuses. Although I'd be happy with a point, as long as they don't come away with five.

Don't think so. If fit I'd say Lowry would be on the bench, but that's about it. Although I wonder if Treadwell has a knock, he seems a perfect impact player from the bench.

Clegg · 16-11-2019 1:40pm

Big test for Ulster today. I was at the Rec last December when Leinster went to Bath. They were struggling in the Premiership, near the bottom of the table and had just played one of the worst games I'd ever seen a week before. But they pulled out a huge performance against Leinster and really should have won. Louw and Underhill were phenomenal and made a mess out of the breakdown.

Conditions seem a lot better than last December, there was torrential rain and a howling gale. That'll suit Ulster's backline. But I expect Bath to pull another big game out.

Digifriendly · 16-11-2019 8:48pm

Great win by Ulster making me eat my words. Nerves shattered at the end but Stockdale saved the day. Really looking forward to Friday night against Clermont especially after their imperious demolition of Harlequins. Should be quite a game.

Hands Like Flippers · 17-11-2019 6:58pm

Balacoune got a hat trick yesterday for Hinch

Dubinusa · 19-11-2019 1:35am

Rewatched the match! A.O.C really stood out for me. Ulster looked more physical with him involved. Great win and they really fought tooth and nail!

bilston · 19-11-2019 11:27am

McGrath, Carter and Lyttle all missing this weekend.

Good replacements to come in, however it weakens our bench options.

Paul Smeenus · 19-11-2019 11:33am

bilston wrote: »

McGrath, Carter and Lyttle all missing this weekend.

Good replacements to come in, however it weakens our bench options.

Exactly this. O'Sullivan, Treadwell, Baloucoune/Gilroy. Just means McCall or Warwick on the bench. Otherwise, replacements are quality.

Clegg · 19-11-2019 2:39pm

McGrath and Carter will have surgery for their respective injuries. Sounds like Carter will be out for a while.

However, prop Jack McGrath is set to undergo surgery on a thumb injury and the Ireland international’s availability to play will be “monitored over the coming weeks”.

Lock Sam Carter was substituted off after 26 minutes after suffering a dislocated shoulder, which will put him out for approximately three months after he goes under the knife.

https://www.the42.ie/ulster-jack-mcgrath-sam-carter-injuries-surgery-4897247-Nov2019/

mogwai81 · 19-11-2019 2:50pm

Clegg wrote: »

McGrath and Carter will have surgery for their respective injuries. Sounds like Carter will be out for a while.

https://www.the42.ie/ulster-jack-mcgrath-sam-carter-injuries-surgery-4897247-Nov2019/

Disappointed for the injured players, but it shows Ulster strength in depth at the moment that the likes of Eric O’Sullivan, Alan O’Connor/Kieran Threadwell and Baloucoune/ Gilroy can cover for those injured.

awec · 19-11-2019 2:55pm

2 more years for Billy Burns

Sinbad_NI · 19-11-2019 4:02pm

awec wrote: »

2 more years for Billy Burns

That's good news.

bilston · 19-11-2019 4:56pm

awec wrote: »

2 more years for Billy Burns

He is definitely improving all the time. Glad to hear he is staying on.

jacothelad · 19-11-2019 10:02pm

Sam Carter suffered a shoulder dislocation in last weekend’s Champions Cup Round 1 win over Bath. He will require surgery and is expected to be ruled out for approximately 3 months.

Jack McGrath is also due to undergo surgery for a thumb injury, and his availability to play will be monitored over the coming weeks.

Rob Lyttle sustained a shoulder injury, which will sideline him for an estimated 6-8 weeks.

Marcus Rea suffered a fractured jaw playing for Ballynahinch RFC. It is anticipated that he will return to play in approximately 6 weeks.

Forked......again.

mogwai81 · 21-11-2019 1:32pm

Ulster team to play ASM Clermont Auvergne, Heineken Champions Cup Round 2, Friday 22 November at Kingspan Stadium (7.45pm, live on BT Sport & BeIN Sports):

(15-9) Will Addison, Louis Ludik, Luke Marshall, Stuart McCloskey, Jacob Stockdale, Billy Burns, John Cooney.

(1-8) Eric O’Sullivan, Rob Herring, Marty Moore, Alan O’Connor, Iain Henderson (Capt.), Sean Reidy, Jordi Murphy, Marcell Coetzee.

Replacements: Adam McBurney, Kyle McCall, Tom O’Toole, Kieran Treadwell, Nick Timoney, David Shanahan, Bill Johnston, Craig Gilroy.

mogwai81 · 21-11-2019 1:34pm

I would have much preferred to see Gilroy or Baloucoune start on the wing ahead of Ludik.

mogwai81 · 21-11-2019 1:42pm

Clermont
15. Nick Abendanon
14. Peter Betham
13. Isaiah Toeava
12. George Moala
11. Alivereti Raka
10. Jake McIntyre
9. Greig Laidlaw
1. Etienne Falgoux
2. John Ulugia
3. Rabah Slimani
4. Paul Jedrasiak
5. Sitaleki Timani
6. Peceli Yato
7. Arthur Iturria
8. Fritz Lee (captain)
Replacements:
16. Mike Tadjer
17. Loni Uhila
18. Davit Zirakashvili
19. Thibault Lanen
20. Lucas Dessaigne
21. Morgan Parra
22. Camille Lopez
23. Apisai Naqalevu

Yeah_Right · 21-11-2019 1:51pm

That is a frightening team Clermont have. Especially the backline. The one saving grace for Ulster is Laidlaw at halfback.

mogwai81 · 21-11-2019 3:15pm

Yeah_Right wrote: »

That is a frightening team Clermont have. Especially the backline. The one saving grace for Ulster is Laidlaw at halfback.

How much do you know about the 10 for Clermont?

Bazzo · 21-11-2019 3:16pm

I don't follow the top 14 that much... Who the blazes is Jake McIntyre and why is he starting ahead of Lopez?

Former Former · 21-11-2019 3:30pm

mogwai81 wrote: »

I would have much preferred to see Gilroy or Baloucoune start on the wing ahead of Ludik.

I shudder to think of how that might work if Raka was running at them full tilt.

sydthebeat · 21-11-2019 3:50pm

Jake McIntyre... jaysus theres a blast from the past...

a bitpart super rugby reds player from a few years back... young back then, but looked decent when he played.

i havent seen anything of him since he left SR. i think hed have a bit more of a running threat than lopez... but im not sure thats what clermont need on a cold night in belfast.

Digifriendly · 21-11-2019 4:08pm

Bazzo wrote: »

I don't follow the top 14 that much... Who the blazes is Jake McIntyre and why is he starting ahead of Lopez?

Top 14 no longer has any UK TV coverage. Good highlights on Youtube though uploaded from each Monday morning.
Neither have I heard of Jake McIntyre. Wonder why Lopez is not playing?

Yeah_Right · 21-11-2019 5:09pm

mogwai81 wrote: »

How much do you know about the 10 for Clermont?

I pretty much agree with Syd's assessment. Decent player, more of a running threat than Lopez, solid goal kicker, had a couple of seasons in the Aus U20s (I think), he's spent the past couple of years in the Top 14 but I can't remember with who. I would have thought Lopez was the better choice for a cold, wet, November night in Belfast.

The danger is if Toeava, Moala, Raka and Betham get a lot of ball and a bit space. They could tear Ulster apart.

mogwai81 · 21-11-2019 5:14pm

Former Former wrote: »

I shudder to think of how that might work if Raka was running at them full tilt.

There's a good chance Raka could turn Ludik inside out too, but I feel Gilroy and Baloucoune would offer more going forward.

mogwai81 · 21-11-2019 5:19pm

Marty Moore signed on until the summer of 2022. Great news!

Locke_Lamora · 22-11-2019 9:02pm

Scrum looks in trouble a little, and I'm worrying that Cooney's mess up has set the tone now. Looked ok otherwise though.

Clegg · 22-11-2019 9:04pm

Excellent kick from Cooney. But he's having a stinker with ball in hand.

mogwai81 · 22-11-2019 9:40pm

Clermont have been terrible, but I don’t think Ulster have been great either.

Faugheen · 22-11-2019 9:41pm

Clermont have been muck but it’s a terrible game really.

Squidgy Black · 22-11-2019 9:42pm

mogwai81 wrote: »

Clermont have been terrible, but I don’t think Ulster have been great either.

Should be a couple more scores ahead I reckon. Don't think the conditions are helping the cause, but Clermont have really been awful.

Locke_Lamora · 22-11-2019 9:49pm

A couple of times I think we've looked dangerous/moderately useful going forward, but we're poor at securing our own ball and are throwing some shocking passes. Clermont defence has looked suspect, so I would've preferred being a little farther ahead at halftime before Clermont have a chance to regather themselves. Tough 40 minutes coming up.

Locke_Lamora · 22-11-2019 10:03pm

This game is so poor but I'm actually loving the atmosphere. Crowd really getting involved now.

Squidgy Black · 22-11-2019 10:04pm

So. Many. Knock-ons.

Faugheen · 22-11-2019 10:08pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

So. Many. Knock-ons.

It’s pissing down up there I think. It was anyway. Might explain it

Squidgy Black · 22-11-2019 10:08pm

Henderson doing his best James Lowe impression, I'd say EOS got a glimpse of more than he hoped for there.

Faugheen · 22-11-2019 10:10pm

The stat sheet will look good for Cooney but he’s really not doing his Ireland chances much good here. He hasn’t controlled the game at all.

Squidgy Black · 22-11-2019 10:19pm

Faugheen wrote: »

The stat sheet will look good for Cooney but he’s really not doing his Ireland chances much good here. He hasn’t controlled the game at all.

Commentators curse.

All of those trick shot videos paying off for Cooney.

testtech05 · 22-11-2019 10:19pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Commentators curse.

All of those trick shot videos paying off for Cooney.

Nice skills to control that!!

Locke_Lamora · 22-11-2019 10:20pm

I mean, we haven't looked good and there's too many mistakes, but those hits and that try make this worth watching.

Faugheen · 22-11-2019 10:21pm

testtech05 wrote: »

Nice skills to control that!!

This. Did extremely well there.

Clegg · 22-11-2019 10:21pm

Jordi has been excellent.

Faugheen · 22-11-2019 10:26pm

Clegg wrote: »

Jordi has been excellent.

Person I’ve been most impressed with is Marty Moore. Got through a mountain of work and it’s great to see him playing so well.

Faugheen · 22-11-2019 10:28pm

The two young lads getting minced in the scrum by the old heads of Clermont.

Locke_Lamora · 22-11-2019 10:37pm

Ludik showing why he deserved to start - so consistent in the air in horrible conditions.

testtech05 · 22-11-2019 10:40pm

Great win

shootermacg · 22-11-2019 10:45pm

Well done Ulster, looked very good indeed tonight.

foxyladyxx · 22-11-2019 10:47pm

Where's Awec?

ionadnapokot · 22-11-2019 11:03pm

Locke_Lamora wrote: »

Ludik showing why he deserved to start - so consistent in the air in horrible conditions.

Something about the way both Louis & Cooney play that is inspirational.
I cant quite put my finger on it....but they are max effort for 80mins in every game.

IF Herring, Henderson, Coetzee, Cooney, Ludik & Addison can keep injury free that is a strong & very consistent spine from which to build.
All of them played the 80.
& Fair play to Moore - got to '66.

A fcucking great try from Cooney this eve! Great heads up, courage and skill.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1197988504376160257

Ulster Team Talk Thread IV... Go On My Henderson...

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