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29-05-2019, 15:29   #1
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Proposals for European Commission Head

Why can't I propose a candidate for Juncker's replacement?

I would like to propose Mary McAleese.

Any seconders or alternative proposals?
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29-05-2019, 15:32   #2
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Lets see if we can get an amendment into EU law that allows boards.ie posters to nominate the European Commission Head.


See how stupid that sounded, that's why it's not allowed.
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29-05-2019, 15:47   #3
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Article 234; Paragraph vii; Subsection 9.2 of the Treaty of Lisbon:

In order for aspiring Presidents of the European Commission to be considered for office, they must, in order:

1. Finish two bottles of cognac and a full roast pheasant (including the side of sautéed porcini potatoes) before 12 noon;

2. Win a three-round tickling match with the Japanese Prime Minister;

3. Call the Irish Prime Minister (En Teeshock) when he's in bed at 3 am, and successfully convince him to fly to Brussels immediately to fix you a sandwich.
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Article 234; Paragraph vii; Subsection 9.2 of the Treaty of Lisbon:

In order for aspiring Presidents of the European Commission to be considered for office, they must, in order:

1. Finish two bottles of cognac and a full roast pheasant (including the side of sautéed porcini potatoes) before 12 noon;

2. Win a three-round tickling match with the Japanese Prime Minister;

3. Call the Irish Prime Minister (En Teeshock) when he's in bed at 3 am, and successfully convince him to fly to Brussels immediately to fix you a sandwich.
Har har.

Given that the position is so important, there should be much more democratic input into the decision.

A European wide election where the candidates are whittled down by say the heads of government and European parliament (heads of government get 2 nomination, and EU parl another two) and then subject to an election along similar methods to qualified majority might be a good method.
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Har har.

Given that the position is so important, there should be much more democratic input into the decision.

A European wide election where the candidates are whittled down by say the heads of government and European parliament (heads of government get 2 nomination, and EU parl another two) and then subject to an election along similar methods to qualified majority might be a good method.
Why though? Who in Ireland would give a hoot about voting for some French or German bureaucrat in an election. We can barely get half the population out for our own elections.

It's fairly democratic as it is anyway. Someone is nominated by the European Council (elected heads of government of all member states) by qualified majority, then must also be confirmed by a majority of MEPs (all elected directly by the people of Europe).
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Har har.

Given that the position is so important, there should be much more democratic input into the decision.

A European wide election where the candidates are whittled down by say the heads of government and European parliament (heads of government get 2 nomination, and EU parl another two) and then subject to an election along similar methods to qualified majority might be a good method.
Would ye feck off boi.
We dont even want an elected mayor in Cork.

"No thanks Leo, we're grand" we said at the weekend.
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Why though? Who in Ireland would give a hoot about voting for some French or German bureaucrat in an election. We can barely get half the population out for our own elections.
t's fairly democratic as it is anyway. Someone is nominated by the European Council (elected heads of government of all member states) by qualified majority, then must also be confirmed by a majority of MEPs (all elected directly by the people of Europe).
You could make that argument about any elected official, it's paper thin.

The huge problem the EU had is the pervasiveness of it's rules but the remoteness of it's institutions.
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You could make that argument about any elected official, it's paper thin.

The huge problem the EU had is the pervasiveness of it's rules but the remoteness of it's institutions.
But the MEPs you voted for last week will vote for the Head of the Commission - that's as close to you as it gets without a direct vote. In Ireland you don't get to vote on the various Ministers or on the heads of the civil service across the departments.
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Ireland has no say and no impact. We are EU subjects not citizens.
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Ireland has no say and no impact. We are EU subjects not citizens.
What do you get out of constantly typing these soundbytes of which the nicest that can be said is that they're simply incorrect?

Feel free to provide proof.
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Why can't I propose a candidate for Juncker's replacement?

The heart of the EU is a democracy free zone, this doesn't look like its gonna be changing any time soon
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What do you get out of constantly typing these soundbytes of which the nicest that can be said is that they're simply incorrect?

Feel free to provide proof.
11 seats out of how many? Germany rules the EU.
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11 seats out of how many? Germany rules the EU.
Ok. Nothing then.
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03-06-2019, 12:43   #15
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Up there where Juncker moves people don't get elected by the regular plebs, they move in the corridors of power and they don't give a toss about the likes of you and me.

On topic, Jan Zahradil could be a runner

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