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New F-16 variant introduced

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    Maoltuile
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    GaryIrv93 wrote: »
    so a new F-16 was unveiled to the public during the Sinapore Airshow called the F-16V. Improvements include an AESA radar, a new mission computer and others. http://www.dailytech.com/Lockheed+Martin+Unveils+New+F16V+to+Complement+F35+F22/article24025.htm

    looks pretty nice.

    From the original article:

    "Lockheed Martin has an order from Iraq that is large enough to keep F-16 production line open until the end of 2015;"

    That'll be the replacement fighter for the Iranian F-4s and F-14s, then *eyeroll*


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    GaryIrv93
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    Maoltuile wrote: »
    From the original article:

    "Lockheed Martin has an order from Iraq that is large enough to keep F-16 production line open until the end of 2015;"

    That'll be the replacement fighter for the Iranian F-4s and F-14s, then *eyeroll*

    lol. Iran will probably try to get more MiGs and Sukhoi's off Russia instead, because I doubt they'll get their hands on F-16's anytime soon :D they've had the F-14's since 74, I'm surprised they're still serviceable,


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    Maoltuile
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    GaryIrv93 wrote: »
    lol. Iran will probably try to get more MiGs and Sukhoi's off Russia instead, because I doubt they'll get their hands on F-16's anytime soon :D they've had the F-14's since 74, I'm surprised they're still serviceable,

    Well, spare parts weren't part of the known count of armaments that Mr. Reagan and the Israelis sold to the Iranians, so I'm guessing they were sourced from elsewhere (if they got any).


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    GaryIrv93
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    Maoltuile wrote: »
    Well, spare parts weren't part of the known count of armaments that Mr. Reagan and the Israelis sold to the Iranians, so I'm guessing they were sourced from elsewhere (if they got any).

    Parts could have been copied and reproduced by the Iranians to extend service lives of the aircraft


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    Maoltuile
    Registered Users Posts: 634 ✭✭✭Maoltuile


    GaryIrv93 wrote: »
    Parts could have been copied and reproduced by the Iranians to extend service lives of the aircraft

    True - I'd doubt with much success, though. If you don't have the original factory specs...


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    GaryIrv93
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    Maoltuile wrote: »
    True - I'd doubt with much success, though. If you don't have the original factory specs...

    i don't know really. if it was me I'd take an F-14 completely to pieces (including the engine) and just copy the shape and size of each piece. can't be too much trouble, well then again you've gotta know exactly where each piece goes in order to put it back together properly :rolleyes: it would be like putting together a very very complicated Airfix kit


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    harmoniums
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    GaryIrv93 wrote: »
    i don't know really. if it was me I'd take an F-14 completely to pieces (including the engine) and just copy the shape and size of each piece. can't be too much trouble, well then again you've gotta know exactly where each piece goes in order to put it back together properly :rolleyes: it would be like putting together a very very complicated Airfix kit

    Theres a bit more to it than the dimensions of the part.
    The metallurgy is the hard part.
    Having said that, Iranian agents have been vacuuming up spare parts from all over the world for years.

    They had to take out key parts from the planes they display in museums and on stands out the front of airbases for fear that they could find parts of value easily accessible!


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    Maoltuile
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    harmoniums wrote: »
    Theres a bit more to it than the dimensions of the part.
    The metallurgy is the hard part.

    Yes, this is the point. Even if you laser-scanned the thing, how do you know that the material and manufacture is to the right standard to avoid catastrophe?


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    GaryIrv93
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    when the F-14 was retired from US service, the planes were all broken up and shredded (apart from the ones in museums) just to prevent parts being smuggled to Iran,


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    muppet01
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    We did the same with the fougas, just in case................


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    GaryIrv93
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    well apparently there's a Fouga under restoration in Baldonnel if I'm right? There's another one in a college workshop im not sure though which college.


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    westdub
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    GaryIrv93 wrote: »
    well apparently there's a Fouga under restoration in Baldonnel if I'm right? There's another one in a college workshop im not sure though which college.

    The Fouga in Baldonnel is only a static museum exhibit that will never fly again.. the same goes for all the former Air Corp Fougas....
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    goldie fish
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    That's cos they are airframe time expired. Some things you just can't replace. It's an aircraft that first entered service with the Austrian Air Force almost 60 years ago.

    You'll find any historic jet aircraft in use today have very low flying hours.


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    GaryIrv93
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    The Fouga in Baldonnel is only a static museum exhibit that will never fly again.. the same goes for all the former Air Corp Fougas....

    nice pic.


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    Buffman
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    Iraqi F16's! That'll make Gulf war 3 interesting anyway.:D
    GaryIrv93 wrote: »
    There's another one in a college workshop im not sure though which college.

    The two that I know of are at DIT's Aviation Technology Centre at Dublin Airport:

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    and Carlow IT:
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