Wolves

K.G. · 02-10-2019 9:31pm #1

I.must congratulat the green party on their innovative idea to boost beef prices. Two prong approach
1 it ll clear alot of sucklers
2itll deal with those Jersey bull calves
Brilliant

_Brian · 02-10-2019 9:45pm

After the way they behaved last time they were in government they are to be kept on the sidelines where they belong.
A Green Party is essential to push the others somewhat in the right direction but as a country we never, ever want to be governed by them again.

I’m not sure how their candidates get up every morning full knowing they are nothing other than a token alternative party and have no future to be anything else.

It must be like becoming a professional footballer knowing you can’t score a goal or win a match ever.

visatorro · 02-10-2019 9:45pm

K.G. wrote: »

I.must congratulat the green party on their innovative idea to boost beef prices. Two prong approach
1 it ll clear alot of sucklers
2itll deal with those Jersey bull calves
Brilliant

From a political point of view he's shot his party in the foot. Whether farmers like it or not there was a bit of momentum behind the green agenda. When they had only two elected councillors I heard eamon ryan speak. He was measured and talked abit of sense. Trying to gather ground in the middle. Just like before he seems to have lost the run of himself again. Terror how public recognition can turn people into gob****es!

patsy_mccabe · 03-10-2019 5:16pm

https://twitter.com/rtepolitics/status/1179054331179470851

Sheep breeder · 03-10-2019 7:36pm

Could be a great idea and test them to see if they are fit for purpose by letting them into the dail to clear up some of the vermin.

K.G. · 03-10-2019 9:37pm

There was a fox in the shed this evening and it was fairly shook. They are all fairly hungry around here and i couldn't see their lot inproving with wolves around

Waternotsoda · 03-10-2019 9:43pm

https://youtu.be/OKNbVAk7m_4

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Dakota Dan · 04-10-2019 9:37pm

K.G. wrote: »

I.must congratulat the green party on their innovative idea to boost beef prices. Two prong approach
1 it ll clear alot of sucklers
2itll deal with those Jersey bull calves
Brilliant

Just put the green party on the hills instead, kill two birds with the one stone.

lalababa · 04-10-2019 10:17pm

Eamonn Ryans talking about general rewilding. And to be ambitious about it, with eventually having enough habitat that could maybe sustain animals like wolves.
That's the vision he's espousing and he's saying why not and think big etc.
He's talking about an ideal that is probably very much in the future. Comes across as a bit of an airhead/harebrained/away in the clouds type.
Would be better talking about current and near future changes in energy use and pollution policy.
That said, how many hill farmers do ya know under 65? How much are small suckler farmers making? Have you seen the deer populations explode across and beyond the national parks. Has your local primary school shut down due to numbers?
Rewilding is already happening with no imput from the Greens.
The Greens never had much power when they were in with FF. I really don't think you can blame them for much.
On a side note.. anybody here from the building trade..and what do you think about the new regs ?

Base price · 04-10-2019 11:38pm

:rolleyes:

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2019/10/04/could-the-reintroduction-of-wolves-solve-irelands-homeless-problem/?fbclid=IwAR3swAzF8SnmXKANhBMLN6-FwEhXVWagRdznE5tPF4kwxwEQcf7h3pWu9Tk

JJayoo · 06-10-2019 8:04pm

Is Eamon Ryan mentally disabled?

Grueller · 06-10-2019 8:26pm

JJayoo wrote: »

Is Eamon Ryan mentally disabled?

Disconnected from reality anyway

toleratethis · 06-10-2019 8:59pm

lalababa wrote: »

how many hill farmers do ya know under 65?

Plenty. Even saw a mountainy ram sold for €1,850 today.

The wolves & gp can both **** off.

Birdnuts · 06-10-2019 9:21pm

JJayoo wrote: »

Is Eamon Ryan mentally disabled?

He certainly is a clown - as I explained in another thread Ireland has signed up to IUCN rules on such matters and the Grey Wolf does not qualify in relation to Ireland on the likes of current farming systems, planning and the welfare of the animal itself. This is just nonsense and attention seeking from Ryan for the benefit of his D4 base in the run up to the next election.

Cattlepen · 06-10-2019 9:30pm

Life is hard enough trying to keep foxes away at lambing time without getting chased around the field myself by a big, bad wolf !!! Flipping hell, i’ve Never heard anything as daft.

JJayoo · 06-10-2019 9:37pm

Look maybe we are being a bit to hasty. Maybe a trial period of 3-5 years in the Phoenix Park would help people get used to having wolves back in the country.

That would be funny, try and troll Eamon Ryan and get people behind bringing wolves back into the phoenix park.

Say my name · 06-10-2019 9:56pm

Birdnuts wrote: »

He certainly is a clown - as I explained in another thread Ireland has signed up to IUCN rules on such matters and the Grey Wolf does not qualify in relation to Ireland on the likes of current farming systems, planning and the welfare of the animal itself. This is just nonsense and attention seeking from Ryan for the benefit of his D4 base in the run up to the next election.

At least you have some sense Birdnuts!

The same cannot be said of others who post on social media under a wildlife banner.

https://twitter.com/Irishwildlife/status/1180782472587616256?s=20

^^It's a handy platform all the same to sort out the herd (of people). We now know the have brain cells to the have not brain cells.

Imagine here in this country a wolf/wolves jumping a fence and trapping a sheep/flock of sheep or calf against that fence and having their way with it.
Or a pack chasing deer through fences on farmland.

Anyway.. wolves on farmland in the U.S.

https://youtu.be/OrMQDqceMEI

I have a feeling though some of those who claim to have wildlife at heart would take great delight in the plight of farm animals and farmers. Probably even give them a job as a wolf specialist after spending 10 years in university...paid for by the government of course.

Capercaillie · 07-10-2019 6:52am

Ireland has probably the most degraded wildlife habitats in Europe. Has only roughly 2% native woodland cover. It has the least forest cover after Iceland. Over 70% of land is farmed. We can't even reintroduce eagles without them being poisoned or starving in degraded habitat like Donegal. We can barely protect farmland species like corncrake/curlew. Conservation in this Country is probably 40 years behind Countries like Spain. Probably not the time for a wolf reintroduction.

mf240 · 07-10-2019 4:23pm

Thought he meant that they were hoping to prop up fianna fail again and bring back bertie and cowen.

Genghis Cant · 16-10-2019 12:05pm

https://www.boredpanda.com/swimming-sea-wolves-pacific-coast-canada-ian-mcallister/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=stickybar&fbclid=IwAR1mYjRz5Rf3ApNVzLX1BmuagrosGlIp8_AuN4kqP7NJnGnOzfqLniXmmHk

Interesting article on aquatic wolves.
Maybe Eamon Ryan will look into releasing these lads! :-)

Ultimanemo · 30-11-2019 9:43am

Green Party leader Eamon Ryan has called for wolves to be reintroduced in Ireland almost 250 years after the species became extinct in Ireland.

Such a lovely idea, They will have a great positive impact on the echo system.
After they land they will make them a protected species by law.

I can't wait to hear the first Howl

The Irish Times

Wanderer78 · 30-11-2019 9:44am

Ah don't worry, it won't happen, politicans talking ****e, again

davidk1394 · 30-11-2019 10:14am

https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2019/10/04/could-the-reintroduction-of-wolves-solve-irelands-homeless-problem/

Is this the article you were reading perhaps ?

_Brian · 30-11-2019 10:38am

I could never support the Green Party because it always seems to be headed up by someone so out of touch with real life and any practicality it’s scary am the stuff they think of and say.

They have a few people round the country that seem to have a grounding in reality but other them them it’s a lost cause.

They will definitely see a bounce in support in the next GE though. Something to be weary off as farmers, we don’t want to see a situation where they are a minority party in government again. I fear if either of the major parties were in a pinch they would bring them in as a green washing exercise.

tabby aspreme · 30-11-2019 11:47am

Be prepared to hear more hair brained ideas from Eamonn Ryan, he has paired up with Eileen Culloty through the RIA, to start a campaign against disinformation on social media, heard her on the radio yesterday saying the Green Party has been misrepresented in the media with regard to climate change, and that more emphasis should be put on farming practices with greater use of images of farming, used in climate change campaigns

Say my name · 30-11-2019 12:08pm

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Be prepared to hear more hair brained ideas from Eamonn Ryan, he has paired up with Eileen Culloty through the RIA, to start a campaign against disinformation on social media, heard her on the radio yesterday saying the Green Party has been misrepresented in the media with regard to climate change, and that more emphasis should be put on farming practices with greater use of images of farming, used in climate change campaigns

It's kind of going off topic but there was a tweet from the RTE ag correspondent of Leo being at the ICMSA conference saying how Leo condemns these so called environmentalists constantly attacking farmers and how the government sees farming as the solution to climate change instead of the cause.
What I found most amusing was the umbrage these vocal so called environmentalists on social media took from that. They've now been back footed and back tracked that they were on farmers sides all along and it's the government that were attacking farmers.
Maybe the fall out will be both the desktop environmentalists and government will actually believe their sh1t now and see that farmers are actually the solution.

Although me thinks all on all sides was optics for the by election and it'll be business as normal next week.

Ultimanemo · 30-11-2019 12:42pm

davidk1394 wrote: »

https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2019/10/04/could-the-reintroduction-of-wolves-solve-irelands-homeless-problem/

Is this the article you were reading perhaps ?

Click on The Irish Times above:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/greens-call-for-wolves-to-be-reintroduced-to-ireland-1.4036692

blue5000 · 30-11-2019 6:46pm

What are they going to eat? Jersey bull calves? Old news at this stage.

Edit; Threads merged

Lano Lynn · 30-11-2019 7:46pm

I would be veering towards green but what a stupid Ahole. whatever about thinking it in his position to say it ?:mad:

when so many are trying to keep the wolf from the door and vultures from the roof over their head:mad:

this nonsense gives rewilding a bad image .Boora bog is a great example of rewilding involving cooperation with environmentalists and gun clubs for predator control

the otherwise quite good book whittled away by p fogarty spends far to much time advocating the reintroduction of top predators .considering we cannot keep curlews breeding population spending a red cent on the mere idea would be criminal.

but stupid sh*t happens and if wolves are reintroduced it seems that it stands to reason that the cultural icon the Irish Wolfhound should be reinstated to its traditional role .

on the radio this morning the so called countrywide mentioned that a stag was outside phoenix park around castleknock I think that's where we need to start the introduction.

Donegalforever · 01-12-2019 10:42pm

Ultimanemo wrote: »

Green Party leader Eamon Ryan has called for wolves to be reintroduced in Ireland almost 250 years after the species became extinct in Ireland.

Such a lovely idea, They will have a great positive impact on the echo system.
After they land they will make them a protected species by law.

I can't wait to hear the first Howl

The Irish Times

Does Eamon Ryan and his party expect farmers to provide plenty of new born lambs for the wolves to feed on ?
It certainly would not surprise me.

Markcheese · 02-12-2019 12:48am

It's never gonna happen, it'd be great in some places, but I don't think we've got the mass of joined up wilderness to let it work,
With low wolf numbers the sheep ect probably wouldn't be a huge issue, but as wolf numbers increase how would things work out then..
Feic it, guys can't even leave the eagles alone,
And the greens know that, its just politics,

Ultimanemo · 02-12-2019 10:56am

Donegalforever wrote: »

Does Eamon Ryan and his party expect farmers to provide plenty of new born lambs for the wolves to feed on ?
It certainly would not surprise me.

If they got the majority to form a government the Green Party will introduce a tax to fund the reintroduction of wolves, if the farmer can prove the wolves have taken his lamb he will be compensated, they will call that: Wolf Trust Fund "WTF"

wirehairmax · 02-12-2019 4:50pm

https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/fionnn-sheahan-green-machine-other-parties-are-in-denial-if-they-dont-see-big-seat-gains-for-ryan-38744119.html
Warning bells at the weekend with another Green TD elected but again its in a dublin constituency. The Green candidate here in wexford was well down the polls and never stood a chance anyway.
Yet they are gathering momentum in the urban areas which is worrying

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