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2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33



    What a lying dog faced pony soldier.

    I know each of these words in isolation but have no idea what they're meant to mean in combination.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    I think Joe Biden actually believes his fabrications. It’s an age thing where the mind is starting to forget things. He mixes parts of something that actually happens with what his mind makes up and it becomes his new reality. Please, will the family of Joe convince him to end this and put us all out of our misery.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Amy is out and endorsing Biden. Will Warren do the same with Bernie?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal



    What a lying dog faced pony soldier.

    A Trump supporter going after someone for lying :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    notobtuse wrote: »
    I think Joe Biden actually believes his fabrications. It’s an age thing where the mind is starting to forget things. He mixes parts of something that actually happens with what his mind makes up and it becomes his new reality. Please, will the family of Joe convince him to end this and put us all out of our misery.
    Do you think dotard believes his fabrications or are his thousands of lies on purpose?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭Billy Mays




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,669 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Sleepy Joe was very excited yesterday, you'd almost think he genuinely believes he has a chance.

    If sleepy Joe and comrade Bernie are the best the Dems have to offer Trump can rest easy knowing he has 4 more years in office.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Klobuchar’s left the building! That leaves four standing on the Dem ticket. Sanders (I-Socialist), Biden (D-State of Confusion), Bloomberg (I-Billionaire), and Warren (D-1/1024th Native American).

    Warren will probably be next to leave... after she secures the VP slot with one of the candidates.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Klobuchar’s left the building! That leaves four standing on the Dem ticket. Sanders (I-Socialist), Biden (D-State of Confusion), Bloomberg (I-Billionaire), and Warren (D-1/1024th Native American).

    Warren will probably be next to leave... after she secures the VP slot with one of the candidates.

    Is Tulsi Gabbard still running?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,703 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Is Tulsi Gabbard still running?

    Yes, disregard that poster's knowledge or lack thereof


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,810 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Sleepy Joe was very excited yesterday, you'd almost think he genuinely believes he has a chance.

    Not sure about if/when he goes up against the Prez, but he's in to odds on with a lot of bookies for the Dem nomination. I'd imagine if Bloomberg looks like a busted flush after today Biden will emerge as a very strong favourite.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Is Tulsi Gabbard still running?
    Yeah, but her chances are exactly ZERO, so why even talk about her at this point!

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Chris Matthews of MSNBC quit on-air last night. I’m really gonna miss his election coverage in November with the veins popping out of his temple as his head explodes.

    Oh, yeah, can’t wait for Super Thursday! :)

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Bernie is too lefty for the Democrats. They'll all rally around Biden.
    Trump will likely walk that one.
    Unless hundreds drop dead from COVID19 due in no small part to Trump's dislike for science and playing to the loony christian lobby.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,568 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Bowie wrote: »
    Trump will likely walk that one.

    Fox News Poll last week had Biden by 8 points. *

    The average from all the polls is Biden by 5.4 points. *

    * polls are about as reliable as a chocolate kettle but still can't be ignored all the same.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Boggles wrote: »
    Fox News Poll last week had Biden by 8 points. *

    The average from all the polls is Biden by 5.4 points. *

    * polls are about as reliable as a chocolate kettle but still can't be ignored all the same.
    Dream On!

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,568 ✭✭✭✭Boggles




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Boggles wrote: »

    Did 2016 suspect polling now teach anyone anything? In 2016 with two weeks before election day H Clinton was leading Trump nationally by about six points which gave her about an 85% chance of winning the election. The 2016 polls disregarded the shy voters and those who refused to participate in polling. The same is being done again today. And these polling clowns still draw a paycheck?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,568 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Did 2016 suspect polling now teach anyone anything? In 2016 with two weeks before election day H Clinton was leading Trump nationally by about six points which gave her about an 85% chance of winning the election. The 2016 polls disregarded the shy voters and those who refused to participate in polling. The same is being done again today. And these polling clowns still draw a paycheck?

    Did you miss this part?

    polls are about as reliable as a chocolate kettle but still can't be ignored all the same


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,810 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Bowie wrote: »
    Bernie is too lefty for the Democrats. They'll all rally around Biden.
    Trump will likely walk that one.
    Unless hundreds drop dead from COVID19 due in no small part to Trump's dislike for science and playing to the loony christian lobby.

    If I was Bloomberg I'd be milking the threat of a covid epidemic for all it's worth. He's just the kind of experienced, seemingly unflappable technocrat a lot of people like to see in charge during a 'national emergency'.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Did 2016 suspect polling now teach anyone anything? In 2016 with two weeks before election day H Clinton was leading Trump nationally by about six points which gave her about an 85% chance of winning the election. The 2016 polls disregarded the shy voters and those who refused to participate in polling. The same is being done again today. And these polling clowns still draw a paycheck?

    Polling in 2016 wasn't as bad as people make it out to be. Trump won the election by 77,000 votes across a couple of states.

    Exit polls show Trump won a large number of late deciding voters and Hillary won the popular vote by 2.1%. Two weeks out is a huge amount of time for change, especially with all the email nonsense that came out during that period.

    You can weight polls to adjust them for those who haven't been responding. General consensus was that for 2016 they hadn't weighted education correctly, showing less educated not participant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    Polling in 2016 wasn't as bad as people make it out to be. Trump won the election by 77,000 votes across a couple of states.

    Exit polls show Trump won a large number of late deciding voters and Hillary won the popular vote by 2.1%. Two weeks out is a huge amount of time for change, especially with all the email nonsense that came out during that period.

    You can weight polls to adjust them for those who haven't been responding. General consensus was that for 2016 they hadn't weighted education correctly, showing less educated not participant.
    The polls have been showing Trump losing to all 12,367 democrats who where running this time for president, and all of who dislike or seemingly hate the US. Who believes this? I think the pollsters play to the mainstream media who are in whatever democrat’s camp that is running. The pollsters get the coverage and notoriety that way. I predict Trump will trail in the majority of polls until November, just like before. And it doesn’t matter one iota who the democrat is. Then the pollsters get to come in front of the cameras again after the election, ad nauseum, and explain what went wrong.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    notobtuse wrote: »
    The polls have been showing Trump losing to all 12,367 democrats who where running this time for president, and all of who dislike or seemingly hate the US. Who believes this? I think the pollsters play to the mainstream media who are in whatever democrat’s camp that is running. The pollsters get the coverage and notoriety that way. I predict Trump will trail in the majority of polls until November, just like before. And it doesn’t matter one iota who the democrat is. Then the pollsters get to come in front of the cameras again after the election, ad nauseum, and explain what went wrong.

    The poll you had issue with two weeks out from the election was right in 2016, Trump lost popular vote.

    It will be the same this time because again, barring a complete collapse of the democratic nominee, Trump will lose the popular vote, likely be an even bigger margin.

    Aside from his ego, that doesn't matter because it is the electoral college that would hand him another 4 years and those polls are much tighter than the national ones, some showing a path to Trump winning again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Well, Super Tuesday (not to be confused with Super Thursday) results has made it evident my early prediction for the democrat candidate is toast. If Elizabeth Warren, who finished third in Massachusetts, can’t convince the people of her own state, filled with self-proclaimed hoity-toity intellectuals, that she’s the best candidate how can she convince voters of other states?

    So that leaves 2-½ standing? An angry old forgetful guy, an angry old crazy guy, and an angry old little rich guy... all of who think the US is a terrible place to live at the moment. Tulsi Gabbard is probably informing her staff at the moment it’s all over. Warren and Bloomberg should give up the ghost but I think Warren will hold out a little longer and Bloomberg hasn't quite spent his billion dollar slush fund yet. Is Warren holding out for the VP pick from Biden so she can siphon off votes for a time from Sanders? Is Sanders hoping Bloomberg remains arrogant and doesn’t mind pissing away a billion dollars so he can siphon off votes from Biden?

    With 40% of the delegates now awarded time is quickly running out for Hilllary Clinton to throw her hat into the ring for any hopes the superdelegates would have a legitimate reason to hand her the nomination in a brokered convention. But I can see why Clinton is dawdling. Does she really want to be know forever as the person who lost to Donald Trump, twice?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    I know each of these words in isolation but have no idea what they're meant to mean in combination.



    Course if Trump had said this to someone I wouldn't need to post the clip as there would no doubt have been a thread started on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    A Trump supporter going after someone for lying :D:D

    Oh, cause Trump has told 13,712 lies, amirite?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    What is it with crazed vegans rushing the stages at Biden and Sanders' rallies?

    With the gals that rush Sanders' events thinking going topless gives them a bit more titillating exposure to their causes I might just have to attend a Sanders rally when he comes to the area. :)

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    More of Biden's lies:







    Gonna be TV gold watching this guy over the coming months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,703 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    More of Biden's lies:







    Gonna be TV gold watching this guy over the coming months.

    Projection much?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse




    Course if Trump had said this to someone I wouldn't need to post the clip as there would no doubt have been a thread started on it.
    Can you see the headlines after a Trump and Biden debate? 'Young Guy Abuses Old Guy, Causing Him To Lose Control And Break Down.' I guess 73 is the new 40 and 77 is the new 85.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    The United States of Ancient Mariners. Warren is the kid at 70 crazy united states of affairs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Wow, team Biden now includes Samantha Power, Susan Rice, James Comey and John Brennan. So Biden has a cabal of treasonous abusers of justice who set out to covertly spy on a candidate and then take down a duly elected president.

    Notice how something isn’t getting any press? It's been announced that the Ukraine has opened an investigation into Joe Biden for creating a quid pro quo in getting the prosecutor fired in exchange for a billion dollars? With Trump it was non-stop front page news for over a year… with Biden barely a mention in the news on page 8 for a day or two.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/ukraine-court-forces-probe-into-biden-role-in-firing-of-prosecutor-viktor-shokin/2020/02/27/92710222-5983-11ea-8efd-0f904bdd8057_story.html

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Haha, gas when the liberal left turn on one another over the MSM lying.

    They had no problem with such lies when they were about Trump though of course.


    https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1235131233283084288


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,568 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Attacks have increased on Biden from The Big Bad Orange Man beat me harder cheer leaders.

    It would appear sleepy Joe has awoken.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭The Phantom Jipper


    I was reading that Biden had sex with a porn star and paid her hush money, all whilst his wife was in hospital recovering from giving birth to his youngest child. There's no way somebody like that could get elected.

    Edit: apologies that was actually Trump.


  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭Englo


    Boggles wrote: »
    Attacks have increased on Biden from The Big Bad Orange Man beat me harder cheer leaders.

    It would appear sleepy Joe has awoken.

    Yup, I'm still saying Sanders is/was the better candidate myself but the two posts above yours show Trumpists don't seem to agree!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Oh, cause Trump has told 13,712 lies, amirite?

    That could well be a conservative estimate, but even it was only a quarter of that figure, it's pretty bad, amirite? I mean, a lot of them were really really emabrrassingly stupid lies too. Stuff like claiming Obama was a Kenyan or suggesting Ted Cruz's father was involved in the JFK assassination. There's even a Wikipedia page entirely dedicated to his numerous lies - is there another president who holds such a distinction?

    You see, the problem with being a Trump supporter, is that he has set the bar so immeasurably low, that any mud you try to sling at anyone else will just be catapulted back at you threefold. It's a pointless pursuit.

    You can't support a lying, nepotistic, narcissistic, cheating, crass, climate change denying idiot and then try to denegrate another guy because he said something slightly off colour. It simply doesn't hold water, I'm afraid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭Englo


    You can't support a lying, nepotistic, narcissistic, cheating, crass, climate change denying idiot and then try to denegrate another guy because he said something slightly off colour. It simply doesn't hold water, I'm afraid.

    Again, cult vs. political party.

    For example, I'm quite sure Pete would be the type to give out about "violent leftists" while being entirely supportive of (or wilfully trying to ignore) Trump encouraging his supporters to assault non supporters with the promise that he would cover their legal fees, or of his claiming attendees of a neo nazi rally were 'very fine people'.

    You can add the above promise to the list of Trumps lies, by the way. Which he tried to cover up with yet another lie that he never said it, despite it being right there on video.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Will be fascinating to see the DNC debate this month. Curious as to when Warren will drop out? If she sticks with it much longer will add credence to rumours that she is acting as a spoiler for Bernie.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Oh no! Michael Bloomberg has quit the race after a poor showing on Super Tuesday. He’s spent about a half a billion dollars on his campaign and has gotten 44 delegates. That works out to about $12 million per delegate. I guess he finally figured out is wasn’t such a good bargain.

    Warren is reassessing her campaign after a Super Tuesday wipe-out. In other words... the fat lady is singing.

    And the DNC just changed the rules so Tulsi Gabbard will no longer be allowed to participate in a DNC debate if she doesn’t drop out.

    Biden versus Sanders... a gathering of crazies.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Oh no! Michael Bloomberg has quit the race after a poor showing on Super Tuesday. He’s spent about a half a billion dollars on his campaign and has gotten 44 delegates. That works out to about $12 million per delegate. I guess he finally figured out is wasn’t such a good bargain.

    Warren is reassessing her campaign after a Super Tuesday wipe-out. In other words... the fat lady is singing.

    And the DNC just changed the rules so Tulsi Gabbard will no longer be allowed to participate in a DNC debate if she doesn’t drop out.

    Biden versus Sanders... a gathering of crazies.

    He should have gone to the Russians paid them a fraction and most likely would have been elected.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Biden does not stand a chance against Trump. Sanders least has some balls to take on Trump and bring him down to size.  Democratic party has been clueless since Obama  left office and keep choosing candidates who have no hope of beating Trump. Another four years of Trump great work DNC. 


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,568 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Oh no! Michael Bloomberg has quit the race after a poor showing on Super Tuesday. He’s spent about a half a billion dollars on his campaign and has gotten 44 delegates. That works out to about $12 million per delegate. I guess he finally figured out is wasn’t such a good bargain.

    Pocket change for an actual billionaire.

    Bloomberg bows out of presidential contest but his money will stay

    Apparently he is not done spending either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy



    Suprised Cenk is still around to be honest with you, the ego/ self importance on him on him is baffling "We're going to WAAAAAAARR !!" as if anything this youtuber does moves the needle even a tiny bit lol


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Rachel Some Dachshund


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    Suprised Cenk is still around to be honest with you, the ego/ self importance on him on him is baffling "We're going to WAAAAAAARR !!" as if anything this youtuber does moves the needle even a tiny bit lol

    Well, he co-founded the Justice Democrats. As a result, more women and people of colour than ever have been elected.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Boggles wrote: »
    Pocket change for an actual billionaire.

    Bloomberg bows out of presidential contest but his money will stay

    Apparently he is not done spending either.
    Biden’s only hope is Bloomberg’s money? I understand Joe doesn’t have much of a campaign ground game nor does he have much appeal needed for the raising of donations. He seems to merely rely on his name. Does he just hand over his campaign to Bloomberg to run, or does he merely rely on Trump hatred to get him elected?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    He should have gone to the Russians paid them a fraction and most likely would have been elected.
    Proved the Russian interference was all a hoax. According to democrats just a few Russian trolls spending $100,000 on Facebook ads swung the entire 2016 election. Yet Bloomberg spent nearly a billion dollars and hired just about every social media influencer out there and could barely win a delegate.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,568 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Biden’s only hope is Bloomberg’s money? I understand Joe doesn’t have much of a campaign ground game nor does he have much appeal needed for the raising of donations. He seems to merely rely on his name. Does he just hand over his campaign to Bloomberg to run, or does he merely rely on Trump hatred to get him elected?

    That will probably be enough.

    Trump isn't "shocking" anymore, he was that amusing crazy racist uncle for a bit, but now he is just boring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    I would have thought Biden would have enough goodwill from his time as VP to also be a credible opposition to Trump.

    Crazy how much the political landscape over there has changed since he was in office.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    Well, he co-founded the Justice Democrats. As a result, more women and people of colour than ever have been elected.

    Never knew he was so connected to Omar and Cortez, something new everyday. Cheers.


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