The Outer Worlds - Obsidian RPG

26-10-2019 9:06pm

Did anyone take the flaws when offered them?

Jordan 199 · 26-10-2019 9:18pm

The guns I have are bloody useless.

26-10-2019 9:42pm

Worth getting tinker unlocked at the workbench, you can increase gear level up to +5 above your own level. Cleared out a primal den and got a nice "legendary" ... well unique I guess. 429 dps at level before I used tinker on it

EDIT: Also got a plasma rifle with a little diamond symbol in it's item card , these are pristine items and are more valuable and durable.

26-10-2019 11:05pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Go to the microsoft store and check your download queue. Some other app will be blocking the queue or awaiting a reboot. Cancel everything except the game.

Cheers finally got it working through microsoft store. Had to use the command line to force a reinstall. Their customer service didn't have a clue. I did have a rather bizarre issue. My PC thought I had xbox app and store installed even though I didn't.

26-10-2019 11:21pm

About to leave it for tonight, just at the point where I need to make a decision on who to back and realise I might have screwed myself on choices by not pursuing the main mission before wandering off exploring.

I like it but I miss the lets see whats over here and discovery aspect of the fallout games, this has it to a point but on a micro scale.

EoinHef · 26-10-2019 11:30pm

Played for 2 hrs yesterday,felt i was almost dialogue'd to death

26-10-2019 11:36pm

The other issue is the combat or lack of it, the areas are relatively small and enemies don't respawn for ages if at all in some cases that I've seen and they are all fixed spawns.

BeerWolf · 27-10-2019 7:15am

Jordan 199 wrote: »

The guns I have are bloody useless.

Dead eye rifle is great early in, you can steal it off the weapons shop counter in the second zone for main storyline.

And you can go after a few Science weapons as well.

27-10-2019 9:06am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I like it but I miss the lets see whats over here and discovery aspect of the fallout games, this has it to a point but on a micro scale.

This is actually what I like about it. I think about how many hours of.my life have been wasted smashing the A button (xbox ;-)) on RDR2 just to get to a place. I stopped playing it after one night I had 60 mins of play time and came away thinking holy **** I spent most of my time travelling to destinations and barely even got to play any of the game. It really hit me how the game is purposely designed to waste time and stretch it out to give you a false sense of value for money.

This micro open world is.much better imo. You can jump in and get stuck into a few dialogues, only.put 30-60 mins and make a good bit of progress.

Metro Exodus did this very well, never once do you come away thinking you've just wasted 30-60 mins. Gears 5 as well.

There is no need to be wasting your time traversing open worlds. If a game says 120 hrs play time that to me says 60 hrs of your time wasted. They purposely stretch it out so that they can say 120hrs.

This game gives you 60hrs chock full of content.

skerry · 27-10-2019 9:34am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This is actually what I like about it. I think about how many hours of.my life have been wasted smashing the A button (xbox ;-)) on RDR2 just to get to a place. I stopped playing it after one night I had 60 mins of play time and came away thinking holy **** I spent most of my time travelling to destinations and barely even got to play any of the game. It really hit me how the game is purposely designed to waste time and stretch it out to give you a false sense of value for money.

This micro open world is.much better imo. You can jump in and get stuck into a few dialogues, only.put 30-60 mins and make a good bit of progress.

Metro Exodus did this very well, never once do you come away thinking you've just wasted 30-60 mins. Gears 5 as well.

There is no need to be wasting your time traversing open worlds. If a game says 120 hrs play time that to me says 60 hrs of your time wasted. They purposely stretch it out so that they can say 120hrs.

This game gives you 60hrs chock full of content.

Same as that, I always came away from RDR2 thinking I'd achieved nothing and just spent the session getting from one mission to the next and losing interest by the time I got there.

Breath of The Wild and Witcher 3 are the only two big open worlds I think I've really enjoyed exploring. The Yakuza games have one of the smallest open worlds in Kamurocho city and they use the same location pretty much for each game yet its kept my interest for 3 games so far. They just have that small area packed with so many meaningful and entertaining little distractions and side quests that you know something interesting is going to happen each time you walk around it.

Similar vibe with Outer Worlds, locations aren't huge but they are interesting and I'd take that over a massive sprawling empty map stuffed with meaningless filler any day.

KilOit · 27-10-2019 11:49am

Deleted User wrote: »

This is actually what I like about it. I think about how many hours of.my life have been wasted smashing the A button (xbox ;-)) on RDR2 just to get to a place. I stopped playing it after one night I had 60 mins of play time and came away thinking holy **** I spent most of my time travelling to destinations and barely even got to play any of the game. It really hit me how the game is purposely designed to waste time and stretch it out to give you a false sense of value for money.

This micro open world is.much better imo. You can jump in and get stuck into a few dialogues, only.put 30-60 mins and make a good bit of progress.

Metro Exodus did this very well, never once do you come away thinking you've just wasted 30-60 mins. Gears 5 as well.

There is no need to be wasting your time traversing open worlds. If a game says 120 hrs play time that to me says 60 hrs of your time wasted. They purposely stretch it out so that they can say 120hrs.

This game gives you 60hrs chock full of content.

Very true.
i Just completed AC Odyssey before this and and clocked in a good 50 hours on decent amount of side quests as well and i'd say a good 10-15 hours of that would be travelling between areas and unlocking fast track locations on foot, horse and ship.
Give me small condensed play areas any day over huge sprawling emptiness.

fixXxer · 27-10-2019 12:01pm

Got this on a whim yesterday and played about four hours. Really really enjoying it. This is the fallout game I wanted. It's fun, it's clever, it's great to look at. It actually feels wierd to play a game like this and not have come across any bugs yet, I'd become so used to them.

Putting my points heavily in to dialogue, charisma and melee to see how that works out.

Evade · 27-10-2019 12:27pm

Is it just me or do you level up very quickly? I'm level 13 already and have just gotten the Monarch landing pass.

Sephiroth_dude · 27-10-2019 12:43pm

Evade wrote: »

Is it just me or do you level up very quickly? I'm level 13 already and have just gotten the Monarch landing pass.

I'm finding it slow personally, I'm only level 5 and on the first planet.

noodler · 27-10-2019 12:44pm

So if I love fallout, and particularly wished 3/4 had been more like New Vegas, then this might be for me?

fixXxer · 27-10-2019 1:04pm

noodler wrote: »

So if I love fallout, and particularly wished 3/4 had been more like New Vegas, then this might be for me?

I'd say so. It's what I wish fallout 4 had been, the more I play.

Evade · 27-10-2019 1:05pm

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

I'm finding it slow personally, I'm only level 5 and on the first planet.

Still in the Edgewater area?

Sephiroth_dude · 27-10-2019 1:15pm

Evade wrote: »

Still in the Edgewater area?

That's the one ya.

Evade · 27-10-2019 1:24pm

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

That's the one ya.

Once you manage to leave you might see why I think you level up pretty quickly.

I accidentally took a flaw that makes my main afraid of one of my usual companions which reduces some stats when he's around.

Glebee · 27-10-2019 1:41pm

Really liking it so far, still in Edgewater but so far so good.
One thing thats bugging me is the map layout not showing all quest locations at the same time. Bugs me that you have to switch bettween quests to see where they are on the map.. Maybe I have an option turned off but dont see any.

Homelander · 27-10-2019 2:47pm

noodler wrote: »

So if I love fallout, and particularly wished 3/4 had been more like New Vegas, then this might be for me?

The narrative and scripting is very like New Vegas, but the game itself is more like a meeting point between a Bioshock and Fallout title. It's not nearly as big or as open a single world, instead being a load of interconnected small (but reasonably populated) maps.

It's also extremely polished, has mountains of dialogue, loads of decent side quests and is fairly bug free, and mechanically plays very much like a Fallout game. I think the balance it strikes is incredible, it's a real 10/10 game for me after 7 hours gameplay (and still only 'completed' one location so far out of a fair whack of them).

I almost feel bad that it's only costing me a euro through Gamepass.

27-10-2019 3:43pm

Just finished up in Edgewater and moving on now. Think I got a decent outcome with 100% with both factions. Convinced

Reed to leave peacefully

.

Level 8 now, think I'll take the perk that lets you fast travel while encumbered. Concussion is a pain in the arse and being only able sleep in your own bed makes it a chore to have to walk back to the ship when it happens.

z0oT · 27-10-2019 4:18pm

I'm about 2 hours in now. I thought it was a bit slow at first, but the quests are starting to get interesting now, reminding me of Fallout New Vegas with serious Bioshock feel. I think I'll enjoy it.

I'm still on the 3 free months of the Xbox Pass for PC I got with an AMD cpu upgrade. With Gears 5 & now this I've gotten serious value out of the free 3 months thus far. :pac:

_CreeD_ · 27-10-2019 4:31pm

I've only played about 40 mins and have high hopes for the gameplay later but I'm not impressed on the tech side. The graphic options are childishly aggregated and coarse grained leaving the why-in-hell-do-developers-keep-putting-it-in-when-everyone-hates-it chromatic abberation tied to options you might want to keep. Ditto for a lack of mouse acceleration options (another that I do not understand why so many idiot devs keep putting in as default, do they really only play with controllers?). I disabled both via INI files but after disabling CA and anti-aliasing it looks like they were left on to mask the horrendous reflection model, it really looks horrible with bright white reflections off tree leaves half a mile away. Also the LOD scaling is childishly bad, within 20 feet models and textures update in a distractingly obvious way (on ultra). Last up since folks are talking about a lack of bugs certain keys can be succesfully mapped in the controls section but don't actually work in game, not as bad as an all out crash but not what I'd expect from these devs.
I don't doubt from their history and the comments here the base game will be good fun but I just don't see why this is constantly being regarded as a bug free and optimised title when to me it's at best mediocre on that front.

hitemfrank · 27-10-2019 5:01pm

I'm having a lot of fun so far and have only run into 2 bugs so far. Unfortunately they result in a fresh to desktop.

I've found one room in the botanical lab/area that crashes if I go into the same corner as a container. I can walk around the rest of the room just fine but there's something wrong in that one corner, so I'm assuming it's related to the container. I've been trying to use fixes other people have had success with no luck so far.

The second crash to desktop was in between two buildings in the North West of the starting area. I've not gone back there yet so I'm not sure if it's a repeatable crash.

I have read that these crash to desktop issues are only on the Game Pass version and that a reinstalled might fox it.

The chromatic aberration can be turned off via an .ini file edit so at least it can be done that way at least. There really should be more options for the PC release though.

J. Marston · 27-10-2019 6:12pm

Checked HLTB and was pleasantly surprised. 20 hours for completionists. I was expecting 100+ hours.

27-10-2019 6:13pm

I'm finding the framerate tanks every now again and that's even with a 1080Ti.

27-10-2019 6:21pm

J. Marston wrote: »

Checked HLTB and was pleasantly surprised. 20 hours for completionists. I was expecting 100+ hours.

For all achievements you'd need to be starting on supernova to get away with doing it in one run, I've 8 hours so far and only left Edge Water, the lack of fast travel really adds to the time. Also one requires you to do something that I'm sure can only be done if you have access to the dumb dialogue options though you might be able to repec for that one??

27-10-2019 6:22pm

After you leave Edge Water it's worth stopping in with Phineas before moving on there is some decent stuff to be had there including

a shrink ray

:pac:

dreamers75 · 27-10-2019 7:59pm

Plasma Sword >>> everything else.

Find one in the geo thermal plant and it 2 hits robots with little points spent in Melee.

27-10-2019 10:51pm

There appears to be a

herd of cows

on board my ship

Likely a reference to something I don't know.

27-10-2019 10:55pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

For all achievements you'd need to be starting on supernova to get away with doing it in one run, I've 8 hours so far and only left Edge Water, the lack of fast travel really adds to the time. Also one requires you to do something that I'm sure can only be done if you have access to the dumb dialogue options though you might be able to repec for that one??

What you mean lack of fast travel?
I've been using it in Edgewater the whole time

27-10-2019 10:56pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm finding the framerate tanks every now again and that's even with a 1080Ti.

Turn shadows to medium
And pull draw distance back a touch
Lock your frames to 60fps
Everything else can stay high / very high

27-10-2019 11:05pm

Deleted User wrote: »

What you mean lack of fast travel?
I've been using it in Edgewater the whole time

You can only fast travel to the the ship on supernova difficulty.

27-10-2019 11:06pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You can only fast travel to the the ship on supernova difficulty.

I've been playing on hard
Nevermind

hitemfrank · 28-10-2019 12:33am

hitemfrank wrote: »

I'm having a lot of fun so far and have only run into 2 bugs so far. Unfortunately they result in a fresh to desktop.

I've found one room in the botanical lab/area that crashes if I go into the same corner as a container. I can walk around the rest of the room just fine but there's something wrong in that one corner, so I'm assuming it's related to the container. I've been trying to use fixes other people have had success with no luck so far.

The second crash to desktop was in between two buildings in the North West of the starting area. I've not gone back there yet so I'm not sure if it's a repeatable crash.

I have read that these crash to desktop issues are only on the Game Pass version and that a reinstalled might fox it.

The chromatic aberration can be turned off via an .ini file edit so at least it can be done that way at least. There really should be more options for the PC release though.

So the crashes I'm having are related to the first install. I installed it on my laptop and no crashes at all.

It's annoying there is no verify game files on the Xbox app like there is on Steam.

dreamers75 · 28-10-2019 12:35am

Anyone kill a mission giver by mistake?

I like that it can happen but it bothers me I may have missed a cool reward.

Weapons are terrible in the game other than the sword I have found nothing that does a reasonable amount of damage. Im on Monarch atm fight strategy is headshot with sniper then walk backwards with revolver and spam Companion attacks.

28-10-2019 12:44am

dreamers75 wrote: »

Anyone kill a mission giver by mistake?

I like that it can happen but it bothers me I may have missed a cool reward.

Weapons are terrible in the game other than the sword I have found nothing that does a reasonable amount of damage. Im on Monarch atm fight strategy is headshot with sniper then walk backwards with revolver and spam Companion attacks.

I had a near miss with Zoe I think her name was. Theres a bounty mission that you have to collect

fingers

for on the first plant and she's there close to one of the targets only I spotted she was named and I didn't recall a mission with her name mentioned or I'd have killed her.

Weapons???? You unlocked tinker at the workbench and have mods installed ??? I get the feleing that you are supposed to upgrade rather than find better guns, I've seen a few uniques but for the most part weapons seem generic loot until you mod and tinker with them.

skerry · 28-10-2019 12:46am

Prismatic Hammer is a beast of a yolk. Charged swing does serious damage

dreamers75 · 28-10-2019 1:07am

Upgraded a few guns but they still lack ......boom? Sometimes I can oneshot an outlaw with the sniper and sometimes I cant. Altho similar to NV combat is not great but I didnt get the game for combat and putting random outlaws and rapts on the road to wherever I am going is annoying.

Killed 2 mission givers on Roseway, 1st was I assumed the room was full of outlaws and started swinging widly. It wasnt

Second was I left one of the labs via different door and there was someone with their back to me (

assuming it O Malleys buddy

) ded now.

O Malley also ded

Really enjoying the game other than the combat went with engineering/dialogue as my main perks.

Venom · 28-10-2019 1:17am

Deleted User wrote: »

Weapons???? You unlocked tinker at the workbench and have mods installed ??? I get the feleing that you are supposed to upgrade rather than find better guns, I've seen a few uniques but for the most part weapons seem generic loot until you mod and tinker with them.

It's a bit of both. Tinkering with a weapon boost's it's dps bigtime but can get expensive. There are higher level versions of each weapon in the game and around level 16'ish I found versions with double the damage of the previous tier.

dreamers75 wrote: »

Upgraded a few guns but they still lack ......boom? Sometimes I can oneshot an outlaw with the sniper and sometimes I cant. Altho similar to NV combat is not great but I didnt get the game for combat and putting random outlaws and rapts on the road to wherever I am going is annoying.

If you look at the damage numbers when you shoot mobs it will you an idea on how the weapon is performing as some effects do better against different enemy types. Also, it the numbers are floating down instead of up, it's the game telling you to pick a different damage type.

28-10-2019 1:31am

Venom wrote: »

It's a bit of both. Tinkering with a weapon boost's it's dps bigtime but can get expensive. There are higher level versions of each weapon in the game and around level 16'ish I found versions with double the damage of the previous tier.

Yeah you have juggle it in terms of cost, I can spend 3k to upgrade this hand gun or I can shoot something and get a level X gun that will be 10% the cost to upgrade once. I find once it costs 000's it's time to stop upgrading.

Sephiroth_dude · 28-10-2019 2:35am

Great game, must say I'm really enjoying it.

skerry · 28-10-2019 8:40am

Thinking I might respec Captain Tones. Have a load of points thrown into ranged weapons and also melee, which I'm guessing is contradictory. Might lob a load into Tech and Science seeing as I'm basically running around now lashing Marauders in the nut with a Science Hammer all the time. I'm thinking Tech and Dialogue so if I can't talk my way out of a pickle then its science hammer time and the lashings will commence.

BeerWolf · 28-10-2019 9:22am

Only learnt I can use equipment up to 5 levels higher... been just upgrading gear to my level... /derp :pac:

Homelander · 28-10-2019 9:28am

Went to Monarch at level 10, easy to clear the main area around the landing pad but can't kill those Mantiqueens guarding the path through to the open section, bleh. Thought I might be able to build up XP killing high-level monsters there and walking to Stellar Bay overland.

Their health seems to regenerate as well. Had both down to about 60 percent, but broke off the engagement, came back 30 seconds later when I had healed up and both were back to 100 percent.

fixXxer · 28-10-2019 11:30am

Getting killed pretty easy when I fight anything besides a basic maurader. What kind of load outa should I be looking at at level 6 on Edgewater?

brevity · 28-10-2019 11:49am

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

Great game, must say I'm really enjoying it.

Yea, I really like it too. I’m playing it on Normal which is too easy tbh but I’m out of practice when it comes to gaming and I don’t have much time to play.

I wouldn’t normally be one for dialogue but it’s really good in this, I’m enjoying the conversations.

Evade · 28-10-2019 11:54am

I'm going to restart on supernova, I'm finding it too easy.

28-10-2019 1:55pm

Evade wrote: »

I'm going to restart on supernova, I'm finding it too easy.

I'm not finding it too difficult on supernova, the main increase in difficulty comes from lack of saves and permadeath on companions. That can lend itself to being tedious at times if one dies on you and you need to reload or if you become crippled or concussed and have to go back to the ship and sleep to shift it then walk back to where you left off.

I have Ellie now and just need to unlock her tier 3 skill that recovers 25% health if you're fatally wounded. It's not clear if that applies to her or me though, one way to find out I guess.

The Outer Worlds - Obsidian RPG

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