Do you need an extension to the slurry spreading date?

whelan2 · 11-10-2019 1:15pm #1

Got tank on outfarm emptied this morning. Ground is dry overthere. Have a small bit on home farm that wont be spread. So do you need an extension to the end of the spreading period?

blue5000 · 11-10-2019 2:15pm

No I reckon I'll be ok, there's a small tank still full, if I have to I can pump it into a bigger tank beside it.
There is a lot of grass here still, so I'm limited where I can spread it. Some dry fields still have good grass on them and bare fields are too wet as I was trying to get wet ground grazed first.

Reggie. · 11-10-2019 2:21pm

blue5000 wrote: »

No I reckon I'll be ok, there's a small tank still full, if I have to I can pump it into a bigger tank beside it.
There is a lot of grass here still, so I'm limited where I can spread it. Some dry fields still have good grass on them and bare fields are too wet as I was trying to get wet ground grazed first.

Very little spread around here

Mooooo · 11-10-2019 2:48pm

It would help in that contractors are under pressure. Lad with the pipe has full days lined up with 3 weeks so can't fit us in before the deadline without someone else losing out. It's in the shoulders the pipe really pays off as the difference in weight as well as tracking thru gaps etc is night and day compared to a tanker.

Muckit · 11-10-2019 3:36pm

God no!! Hardly trot a mouse across some of the land. Place saturated. Itd be irresponsible putting out here even before the 15th the way the weather has gone.

Not an issue anyways. All goes out after silage is cut.

Sacrolyte · 11-10-2019 4:09pm

Even a week or 10 days be a big help

_Brian · 11-10-2019 4:09pm

No, last loads out few weeks ago..

Land here saturated and the water table is unusually high for this time of year all over Cavan.

Who2 · 11-10-2019 6:01pm

Got the last of it out last weekend. Ground was surprisingly dry in places and surprisingly wet in others but I was glad to get it out. I’ve all the sucklers in filling it again already. It’s the earliest winter for me in a long time and I’m on fairly good ground.

emaherx · 11-10-2019 6:37pm

Finished it last weekend too. Still have a few sheds with FYM to clean out, but another few weeks for that anyway.

uck51js9zml2yt · 11-10-2019 6:43pm

A question for you... Who'd know if you spread past the date on your own land...I know the smell is there but what's the chance of being caught.

I've no farm but had slurry spread during the summer.

emaherx · 11-10-2019 6:57pm

Nathanael Defeated User wrote: »

A question for you... Who'd know if you spread past the date on your own land...I know the smell is there but what's the chance of being caught.

I've no farm but had slurry spread during the summer.

For me I'd have to travel up and down several roads to spread it all so would be hard to hide it. Even the home farm is on 2 sides of a T junction and most of it can be seen clearly from the road.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 11-10-2019 8:00pm

Nathanael Defeated User wrote: »

A question for you... Who'd know if you spread past the date on your own land...I know the smell is there but what's the chance of being caught.

I've no farm but had slurry spread during the summer.

It shows up on satellite inspections. Once the closing date comes, a splash plate spreading will show up if there's a clear day after spreading, grass will show up brown.

I had the umbilical in today and they were making good progress but I had an inspection this morning and didn't have a chance to talk to the lads after milking this evening.

Should have most out today, hopefully, ground is well able to take the spreader and holding up well under cattle as well. Soft in spots though alright.

Reggie. · 11-10-2019 8:02pm

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

It shows up on satellite inspections. Once the closing date comes, a splash plate spreading will show up if there's a clear day after spreading, grass will show up brown.

I had the umbilical in today and they were making good progress but I had an inspection this morning and didn't have a chance to talk to the lads after milking this evening.

Should have most out today, hopefully, ground is well able to take the spreader and holding up well under cattle as well. Soft in spots though alright.

Slurry hard to see after the moscha or dribble bar

Buford T. Justice XIX · 11-10-2019 8:50pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Slurry hard to see after the moscha or dribble bar

I've never seen the Moscha working in real life but I thought it would look like a splash plate except in splotches around the field?

It still isn't approved here for LESS, is it?

Mooooo · 11-10-2019 9:03pm

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

I've never seen the Moscha working in real life but I thought it would look like a splash plate except in splotches around the field?

It still isn't approved here for LESS, is it?

Neighbour has one it's visible alright if the slurry is anyway strong. Afaik it is also likely to be put in the same bracket as splashplate in a few years

Buford T. Justice XIX · 11-10-2019 9:08pm

Mooooo wrote: »

Neighbour has one it's visible alright if the slurry is anyway strong. Afaik it is also likely to be put in the same bracket as splashplate in a few years

Splashplate or LESS?

I think Reggie said a while back that it was LESS approved in Germany?

Mooooo · 11-10-2019 9:37pm

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

Splashplate or LESS?

I think Reggie said a while back that it was LESS approved in Germany?

Maybe I'm wrong but I thought it was likely to go in the same way as splashplates, banned for certain parts of the year

maidhc · 11-10-2019 9:40pm

Why could the slurry not have been put out all summer?

whelan2 · 11-10-2019 9:43pm

maidhc wrote: »

Why could the slurry not have been put out all summer?

We had nowhere to put it on outfarm. Too much grass there. Only got it spread there today.

Reggie. · 11-10-2019 10:05pm

Mooooo wrote: »

Maybe I'm wrong but I thought it was likely to go in the same way as splashplates, banned for certain parts of the year

It probably will but I believe its classed as LESS in Germany.

Slurry Mark's disappear very quickly from the moscha

Timmaay · 11-10-2019 11:40pm

I was only in Johnstown Castle yday at a talk about slurry applicators, the moscha is in the very same bracket as a normal splash plate in terms of nitrogen losses, absolutely anything other than slurry dropped almost directly on the ground will result in losses, so your only 3 options are the dribble bar, trailing shoe, or injector, trailing shoe the best of them 3 options for Ireland.

GrasstoMilk · 12-10-2019 12:04am

Pipes will be here tomorrow, in with the neighbour atm. About 60k gallons of slurry left, mostly dairy washings and yard scrapings collected over the summer

blackcard · 12-10-2019 12:11am

Huge number of complaints in the last week of slurry/muck on the roads in the last week. As a Co Co worker, have been f***ed out of it and verbally abused multiple times daily. Appreciate that farmers are under pressure but some need to appreciate that they need to clean roads

lab man · 12-10-2019 12:50am

Reggie. wrote:

Very little spread around here

are u codding reg even in west Clare all tanks are emptied

Reggie. · 12-10-2019 5:54am

lab man wrote: »

are u codding reg even in west Clare all tanks are emptied

No joke. Very little spread around here. Just couldn't travel the ground

Muckit · 12-10-2019 7:59am

whelan2 wrote: »

We had nowhere to put it on outfarm. Too much grass there. Only got it spread there today.

That's the beauty of trailing shoe. Can be put out and not taint the grass.

moneyheer · 13-10-2019 9:32am

Timmaay wrote: »

I was only in Johnstown Castle yday at a talk about slurry applicators, the moscha is in the very same bracket as a normal splash plate in terms of nitrogen losses, absolutely anything other than slurry dropped almost directly on the ground will result in losses, so your only 3 options are the dribble bar, trailing shoe, or injector, trailing shoe the best of them 3 options for Ireland.

Was talking to sales man about mastek dribble bars in Virginia show about three years ago and he reckoned injection is the way slurry spreading is heading. Most slurry on continent is injected,or so he said.

mahoney_j · 13-10-2019 10:21am

moneyheer wrote: »

Was talking to sales man about mastek dribble bars in Virginia show about three years ago and he reckoned injection is the way slurry spreading is heading. Most slurry on continent is injected,or so he said.

T shoe or injecting in only job ,dribble bar is a balls of a job imo,leaves lines of slurry in top of ground

Reggie. · 13-10-2019 3:38pm

mahoney_j wrote: »

T shoe or injecting in only job ,dribble bar is a balls of a job imo,leaves lines of slurry in top of ground

Well the cost of injectors is savage so get used to dribble bars I'd say as contractors cant take that financial hit

alps · 13-10-2019 4:03pm

There something more natural about slurry left on top of ground. Will injected slurry react in the way that nature has designed for its integration within and utilisation by the soil?

Say my name · 13-10-2019 4:21pm

alps wrote: »

There something more natural about slurry left on top of ground. Will injected slurry react in the way that nature has designed for its integration within and utilisation by the soil?

It might actually be better.

All these natural farming methods that use bacteria they have to be sprayed an hour before dark or on a very cloudy day.
If you go out in the sunlight (UV light) it'll kill any bacteria and benefits you were looking for.

You've heard about the best time to spread slurry is when the tractor wipers are on intermittent?
Well now you may know why that is, even if the person who made that statement doesn't know either bar there was an increase in grass growth and put the increased nitrogen label on it.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 13-10-2019 4:21pm

alps wrote: »

There something more natural about slurry left on top of ground. Will injected slurry react in the way that nature has designed for its integration within and utilisation by the soil?

Was it Dawg or Waffletractor saying about the injected slurry destroying the soil structure right at the top?

I'd prefer it on top of the ground, tbh, I've seen fields grazed after a dribble bar putting out watery slurry and all you could see were inch high strips of ungrazed grass right where the slurry went and the rest bare to the ground. Maybe problems at high covers alright, my contractor wouldn't spread on a paddock with a cover over 2000 for me yesterday?

Injuryprone · 13-10-2019 5:11pm

mahoney_j wrote: »

T shoe or injecting in only job ,dribble bar is a balls of a job imo,leaves lines of slurry in top of ground

How is the trailing shoe any different? Doesn't slice the ground unless the going is fairly soft. In fact if you drop the shoe on hard ground, you'll end up with a much messier job than the dribble bar

PMU · 21-10-2019 6:24pm

i rang the dept of ag today about permission to spread and was told to ring the co.council , ffs

Dakota Dan · 31-10-2019 2:55pm

PMU wrote: »

i rang the dept of ag today about permission to spread and was told to ring the co.council , ffs

Well, did you ring them? If you got the go ahead you'd want them to put it in writing.

PMU · 31-10-2019 8:11pm

no, I had enough trouble with them this year

Fann Linn · 31-10-2019 8:15pm

PMU wrote: »

i rang the dept of ag today about permission to spread and was told to ring the co.council , ffs

I believe the co. councils are waiting for the Dept of Ag to give the derogation. Not the other way round.

Sugarbowl · 31-10-2019 9:35pm

There’s tankers out with slurry around here. The neighbor was at it there few days ago before the rain - it wasn’t soiled water at all!

liosnagceann75 · 31-10-2019 9:45pm

Sugarbowl wrote: »

There’s tankers out with slurry around here. The neighbor was at it there few days ago before the rain - it wasn’t soiled water at all!

All depends on who your neighbours are! One prick of a neighbour here. One foot out of line by me and guaranteed being reported to the council.

Do you need an extension to the slurry spreading date?

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