Price of Viessmann Vitodens 100W gas boiler?

Geuze · 02-10-2019 11:59am #1

I just want to check the price of a Viessmann 100W system boiler, 19 kw output.

I see on Precision Heating, it's 1672.31 excl VAT, so that's 2057 euro incl VAT.

http://www.precisionheating.ie/product/category/480/vitodens-100-w-19kw-system-boiler/8507

Then in the UK, I see it on ww.plumbnation.co.uk for 1100 GBP approx, incl a flue, and incl 20% VAT.

https://www.plumbnation.co.uk/site/viessmann-vitodens-100-w-19kw-system-boiler-natural-gas-erp/

That price gap seems very wide?

Third, I have an installation price, remove old boiler, and replace, for 2800 euro?

This job would take from 9 to 5.

Does 2,800 seem ok?

K.Flyer · 02-10-2019 5:05pm

Geuze wrote: »

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Third, I have an installation price, remove old boiler, and replace, for 2800 euro?

This job would take from 9 to 5.

Does 2,800 seem ok?

It really depends on what you are getting for your money..

Are they power flushing the heating system and fitting a magnetic filter?

Geuze · 03-10-2019 9:01am

Thanks

Power flushing?

I'm not sure what that is, but emptying the radiators is included, yes, to get rid of any crud / build-up, etc.

And adding something to keep that water cleaner was mentioned, yes.

I think the magnetic filter was mentioned as an optional extra, so no I don't think it's included.

K.Flyer · 04-10-2019 7:22pm

Emptying the radiators is not cleaning the system, probably going to do more harm than good by loosening up the crud in the pipework only for it to make it's way to your shiney new boiler.
Best to get a few quotes and to make sure that they include power flushing and a magnetic filter in their pricing.

0lddog · 05-10-2019 2:12pm

Geuze wrote: »

I just want to check the price of a Viessmann 100W system boiler, 19 kw output.

I see on Precision Heating, it's 1672.31 excl VAT, so that's 2057 euro incl VAT.............

FWIW If the installer supplies the boiler I'd expect the VAT to be at the reduced rate. Also asking installer to supply may make things easier for you in the event of issues while in warranty.

Dtp1979 · 08-10-2019 1:57pm

Paying over a grand for a boiler is madness. Viesmann are over hyped, over priced lumps of unattractive plastic boilers. They were hugely popular in my area and I’m probably called out to repair them more than any other modern boiler. I never understood the attraction to these. Decent heat exchanger is all they have going for them.

mp31 · 11-10-2019 6:28pm

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Paying over a grand for a boiler is madness. Viesmann are over hyped, over priced lumps of unattractive plastic boilers. They were hugely popular in my area and I’m probably called out to repair them more than any other modern boiler. I never understood the attraction to these. Decent heat exchanger is all they have going for them.

Are you able to tell us the top three boilers for reliability based on your experience please?

Dtp1979 · 11-10-2019 8:52pm

mp31 wrote: »

Are you able to tell us the top three boilers for reliability based on your experience please?

Bosch would be very reliable. A pig to work on but reliable. Ariston are up there too. I’ve fitted a lot and never had an issue. Immergas are unbreakable, a serious machine. Potterton actually make a decent boiler too

corkgsxr · 11-10-2019 11:06pm

I solely fit bosch. I'd say there very easy to work on but that opinion.

Found them to be very reliable. Very for consumers to use.

rightjob! · 12-10-2019 8:31am

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Paying over a grand for a boiler is madness. Viesmann are over hyped, over priced lumps of unattractive plastic boilers. They were hugely popular in my area and I’m probably called out to repair them more than any other modern boiler. I never understood the attraction to these. Decent heat exchanger is all they have going for them.

Different installers have different opinions on boilers,i fit a lot of Viessmanns and never have breakdowns on them.
I would definitely repair more Bosch’s,very rare that a Viessmann breaks down through bad quality parts.
Blocked hoses from a filthy system that hasn’t been power flushed,yes.

As they say,no such thing as a bad boiler,just bad installers.

Basilio · 27-12-2022 12:15pm

Hi rightjob!, would you be able to fix my Vitodens -100w. Broke second time in 7 years.

Basilio · 27-12-2022 3:21pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/111489209#Comment_111489209

Would you be able to fix my Vitodens -100w. Broke second time in 7 years.

shane b · 28-12-2022 9:57am

I had a Viessmann Vitodens 24KW LPG system boiler installed about in April 21 and it cost around 4K. I have hot water priority set up on my system and seemingly the Viessman was the only one which had the 4 pipes to accommodate this.

Jinglejangle69 · 28-12-2022 3:15pm

Great warranty with the Viesmann which precision honour very easliy.

Basilio · 28-12-2022 4:14pm

Still waiting for reply from precision. Will see how long will it take before it will be resolved. First time (3y old boiler) they claimed water quality was the reason for failure and made me to pay for the repair. Now I am ready to pay but nobody to do the job.

Dtp1979 · 31-12-2022 9:42pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120040989#Comment_120040989

if your boiler is a combi then water quality may be an issue. If it’s just a system boiler and the system is power flushed the water quality has nothing to do with it

Basilio · 31-12-2022 11:49pm

Could be the case but some testing and proof from Viessmann would be welcome. After first failure of three year old boiler Viessmann did not make any adjustment to installation. Water in my district is not hard and evidence of this would be condition of electric shower head. There is evidence online of boiler failure on a unit connected to underfloor heating system. Long story short. Can you recommend any installer who can install boiler and honor warranty? I prefer ATAG or Intergas. Thanks.

Dtp1979 · 02-01-2023 8:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120051182#Comment_120051182

Is your boiler a combi or not?

Basilio · 02-01-2023 8:11pm

Yes, combi Vitodens -100w. Quote from the other forum re same issue:

Basilio · 03-01-2023 12:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120040823#Comment_120040823

Got reply from Viessmann today, Kevin over the phone admitted "boiler gets blocked because rubber hoses are attracting dirt from the system and Viessmann replaced them with copper on newer models".

Basilio · 06-01-2023 1:21pm

Local installer of Ariston is quoting half the price of a Viessmann (as per Advanced Heating price €3800.00) and happy with the water quality without need for water cleaning system (+€900.00). Got my boiler going again after friendly technician got it sorted in about one hour time.

ATAG head office responded promptly and sent installers details ready to undertake a job in my area.

PukkaStukka · 24-02-2023 11:52pm

Following this discussion with interest. I've a 13 year old Ideal Elise that's potentially heading for expensive repairs and likely I'll have to replace it. Was massively impressed with the reviews of both the Viessman Vitodens and Worcester Bosch. My gas installer recommended both and will fit whichever I want and can repair either too. I think he said the VV was around €100 dearer. He will also fit those magna filters and do a full power flush before installing.

Scoopsire · 18-08-2023 12:24pm

@PukkaStukka @Basilio Did either of you go ahead with your installs? what did you go for in the end?

Have an Ariston, which Ive been told is on its last legs!

@rightjob! where are you based any interest in quoting for a job in dublin?

PukkaStukka · 18-08-2023 3:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120994973#Comment_120994973

In the end I went for the Worcester Bosch. I also needed to get pipework changed (legacy of an attic conversion) and our rather aged hot water cylinder replaced, all of which put the cost right up. The WB was working out cheaper so went with it. Great boiler though.

noclee · 18-08-2023 3:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120996175#Comment_120996175

@PukkaStukka I'm also in north dublin and have a 16y old ideal boiler that's on its way out and look to replace. Could you PM me any recommendations who you went with in the end its

Scoopsire · 18-08-2023 4:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120996175#Comment_120996175

Thanks for coming back on this, yeah the Worcester Bosch boilers seem to be cheaper and more widespread based on the very limited number of quotes Ive had to date