Tonight's Boxing 17/4 (Andrade v Williams, Prograis v Redkach, Paul v Askren etc)

Morrison J · 17-04-2021 4:49pm #1

Andrade v Williams ring walks expected at 10.30pm/11pm on DAZN tonight. Aways rated Liam Williams highly. Think he was very unlucky in those two Liam Smith fights and he's improved immensely since joining Ingle and moving to 160 too. Just think Andrade might be a little bit too awkward for him and expect him to win a competitive fight on points. Expect Williams to give him some issues though for sure.

Two cards of note in the early hours. Regis Prograis fights on that bonkers Triller card and Tony Harrison fights on a PBC card.

walshb · 17-04-2021 6:40pm

Morrison J wrote: »

Andrade v Williams ring walks expected at 10.30pm/11pm on DAZN tonight. Aways rated Liam Williams highly. Think he was very unlucky in those two Liam Smith fights and he's improved immensely since joining Ingle and moving to 160 too. Just think Andrade might be a little bit too awkward for him and expect him to win a competitive fight on points. Expect Williams to give him some issues though for sure.

Two cards of note in the early hours. Regis Prograis fights on that bonkers Triller card and Tony Harrison fights on a PBC card.

50 dollars in the U.S. for the Prograis card....

Wtf...

I expect Williams to be somewhat competitive, but not winning. He is not good enough..

In Florida, but starting at a time to suit the UK. Mad, they be in the ring late afternoon over there.

Morrison J · 17-04-2021 9:08pm

Couple of upsets already on DAZN. Majidov the heavyweight who beat Joshua in the amateurs just got knocked out in the first round. Looks like he's badly hurt his ankle on the fall too. Long road back from that.

megadodge · 17-04-2021 9:39pm

Morrison J wrote: »

Couple of upsets already on DAZN. Majidov the heavyweight who beat Joshua in the amateurs just got knocked out in the first round. Looks like he's badly hurt his ankle on the fall too. Long road back from that.

Was surprised he waited so long to turn pro. Considering he won the World Ams three times, maybe he wanted that Olympic gold to complete the collection?
I think he's 34ish now and that ankle looked bad, so it's hard to see what he does from here.

walshb · 17-04-2021 9:42pm

Morrison J wrote: »

Couple of upsets already on DAZN. Majidov the heavyweight who beat Joshua in the amateurs just got knocked out in the first round. Looks like he's badly hurt his ankle on the fall too. Long road back from that.

I was impressed with him from what I saw in previous fights.

Won’t be watching the replay. Ankle injuries make me awful queasy...

Morrison J · 17-04-2021 9:51pm

megadodge wrote: »

Was surprised he waited so long to turn pro. Considering he won the World Ams three times, maybe he wanted that Olympic gold to complete the collection?
I think he's 34ish now and that ankle looked bad, so it's hard to see what he does from here.

Could swear I remember reports from 4/5 years ago saying he was going to quit the sport altogether. Traditionally rare enough for the Azerbaijani's to turn pro isn't it. Think he kind of did the Paddy Barnes. Turned pro knowing he was past his peak for a few pay days.

megadodge · 17-04-2021 10:00pm

Morrison J wrote: »

Could swear I remember reports from 4/5 years ago saying he was going to quit the sport altogether. Traditionally rare enough for the Azerbaijani's to turn pro isn't it. Think he kind of did the Paddy Barnes. Turned pro knowing he was past his peak for a few pay days.

Yeah, I think you're right there.
What I meant originally was that with his attractive style (very big puncher) I was surprised he didn't turn pro after 2012 or so, when he had serious potential.

walshb · 17-04-2021 10:28pm

Is the sound fooked on DAZN?

Morrison J · 17-04-2021 10:31pm

walshb wrote: »

Is the sound fooked on DAZN?

For that interview with Eddie yeah. Everything else fine.

walshb · 17-04-2021 10:36pm

Morrison J wrote: »

For that interview with Eddie yeah. Everything else fine.

Yep. Back now.

walshb · 17-04-2021 10:50pm

Some start by Andrade!

Johner · 17-04-2021 10:53pm

walshb wrote: »

Some start by Andrade!

Really sharp start. Made Williams look awfully bad in that first round.

Johner · 17-04-2021 10:56pm

Andrade looks a few levels above.

walshb · 17-04-2021 10:57pm

World class vs barely above domestic level!

Johner · 17-04-2021 10:59pm

walshb wrote: »

World class vs barely above domestic level!

That knockdown was such basic stuff, Williams looks awful, Andrade in second gear here.

walshb · 17-04-2021 11:01pm

Andrade, if he sits down more and commits he should take Williams out!

megadodge · 17-04-2021 11:05pm

Good 4th from Williams. Andrade suddenly doesn't look too steady.
Could be an interesting next few rounds.

walshb · 17-04-2021 11:06pm

Williams at least here to win..

His defence is just a bit too porous

Johner · 17-04-2021 11:06pm

Yeah, Williams coming into it a bit. To be fair he’s always in exciting fights.

walshb · 17-04-2021 11:09pm

Andrade seems to be lacking the strength and power to keep Williams off him.

A strong middle would eat Williams up. In the pocket dominating.

Andrade’s shots not enough to really discourage..

But could still take Williams out...if he lands real clean.

walshb · 17-04-2021 11:13pm

When Andrade performs there’s a clear gulf in class

I still think a few clean hard ones will end this for Andrade..

Johner · 17-04-2021 11:14pm

It’s frustrating to see Andrade only show these bursts of class, feels like he’s holding back at times.

Butson · 17-04-2021 11:15pm

Williams is tough as nails but levels below Andrade.

walshb · 17-04-2021 11:17pm

Johner wrote: »

It’s frustrating to see Andrade only show these bursts of class, feels like he’s holding back at times.

Yes. Every time Andrade unloads and connects, Williams looks hurt and lost..

walshb · 17-04-2021 11:24pm

Andrade was hurt there clearly!!

Big Ears · 17-04-2021 11:26pm

walshb wrote: »

Andrade was hurt there clearly!!

Badly enough too, he was still wobbly when the ref separated them.

Andrade is holding a huge amount too.
I'm probably more annoyed by holding than most, but if I was the ref I'd have points gone from him by now.

walshb · 17-04-2021 11:34pm

Williams is going nowhere..

Great trier. But what a woeful defence...

If Andrade was a hitter with aggression it would have been done and dusted long ago.

Butson · 17-04-2021 11:37pm

Classic case of the boxer vs the scrapper.

x PyRo · 17-04-2021 11:38pm

Chris Algieri is a hard listen.

megadodge · 17-04-2021 11:39pm

Scandalous amount of holding from Andrade, yet the referee didn't even warn him once!

Williams made him work every minute and Andrade didn't want to, so he just held. And was allowed to.

walshb · 17-04-2021 11:39pm

Williams is not that big, Smith!!!

Yes, has fought above 160, but has fought low 150s...

Big Ears · 17-04-2021 11:39pm

x PyRo wrote: »

Chris Algieri is a hard listen.

It's a rule of all US DAZN commentators, you must be annoying and your voice must be grating.

walshb · 17-04-2021 11:40pm

Big Ears wrote: »

It's a rule of all US DAZN commentators, you must be annoying and your voice must be grating.

I chose UK commentary.

Big Ears · 17-04-2021 11:42pm

megadodge wrote: »

Scandalous amount of holding from Andrade, yet the referee didn't even warn him once!

Williams made him work every minute and Andrade didn't want to, so he just held. And was allowed to.

I'd love to have a count of how many clinches he initiated. As crazy as it sounds, I'd be confident it's a 3 figure sum.

Would definitely be interesting to see how he'd have coped if he wasn't allowed to hold.

Big Ears · 17-04-2021 11:44pm

walshb wrote: »

I chose UK commentary.

Is that an option on a DAZN subscription ?
My Fire Stick chose for me !

Whoever sorts the sound and the mics needs a performance meeting.....

Morrison J · 17-04-2021 11:46pm

Had it 117-110 Andrade. Levels between them really.

Poor performance by Williams though. Used to really rate him as a good pure boxer puncher with good footwork. Ditched all that to fight a sloppy come forward fight there that played straight into Andrade's hands really. Definitely think he could have picked his spots better instead of being a sitting duck for the uppercut. Looks like a fighter who has fallen in love with his power too much.

Still think Andrade is a tough out for most. Awkward as **** but think even a 39 year old GGG gets to him if they made that fight.

megadodge · 17-04-2021 11:48pm

Big Ears wrote: »

Is that an option on a DAZN subscription ?
My Fire Stick chose for me !

Whoever sorts the sound and the mics needs a performance meeting.....

I chose the UK option as well. It's right there on the menu.
Can't stand the US DAZN commentators.

megadodge · 17-04-2021 11:54pm

Morrison J wrote: »

Had it 117-110 Andrade. Levels between them really.

Poor performance by Williams though. Used to really rate him as a good pure boxer puncher with good footwork. Ditched all that to fight a sloppy come forward fight there that played straight into Andrade's hands really. Definitely think he could have picked his spots better instead of being a sitting duck for the uppercut. Looks like a fighter who has fallen in love with his power too much.

Still think Andrade is a tough out for most. Awkward as **** but think even a 39 year old GGG gets to him if they made that fight.

I see where you're coming for with Williams, as I too think he has very good skills behind an excellent jab, but I believe they decided he wasn't going to win a pure boxing match, so they opted for the relentless approach and trying to wear Andrade down. It worked to an extent, in that Andrade was definitely very tired, but was helped to rest by the crazy amount of holding he got away with. But Williams' approach did leave him a lot more open than he would normally be, so he was hit cleanly by the more obvious punches which won rounds.

Big Ears · 18-04-2021 12:01am

megadodge wrote: »

I chose the UK option as well. It's right there on the menu.
Can't stand the US DAZN commentators.

Ah yes the menu......... I'm sure I can find that on my...... legitimate streaming subscription ðŸ˜¬

They really are incredibly poor. It's such a contrast to the quality we had from HBO and Showtime for decades.
Hell even Joe Tessitore and (forgive me for saying this) Teddy Atlas make them look extremely poor by comparison.

Morrison J · 18-04-2021 12:04am

megadodge wrote: »

I see where you're coming for with Williams, as I too think he has very good skills behind an excellent jab, but I believe they decided he wasn't going to win a pure boxing match, so they opted for the relentless approach and trying to wear Andrade down. It worked to an extent, in that Andrade was definitely very tired, but was helped to rest by the crazy amount of holding he got away with. But Williams' approach did leave him a lot more open than he would normally be, so he was hit cleanly by the more obvious punches which won rounds.

Yeah I could be wrong but I just think Williams on his toes and picking his moments to put his combinations together would've given him a better opportunity personally. Seems a very British tactic to plod forward with the high guard in the hope your opponent tires. Joe Gallagher would've been proud of Ingle's tactics tonight.

Diddley Squat · 18-04-2021 4:30am

Oscar is out of his brains there .........
Bet they regret picking him for commentary

Baluba's on the yayo

walshb · 18-04-2021 11:11am

Morrison J wrote: »

Yeah I could be wrong but I just think Williams on his toes and picking his moments to put his combinations together would've given him a better opportunity personally. Seems a very British tactic to plod forward with the high guard in the hope your opponent tires. Joe Gallagher would've been proud of Ingle's tactics tonight.

Yep. For 12 rds he did the same thing..

No adapting, no variation. Pure hoping that Andrade would simply fall over..

And not an ounce of head movement whilst eating clean shots consistently..

SHOVELLER · 18-04-2021 7:24pm

Williams too predictable and as said you could see the levels here. Good to see Ingle's chin was protected.

Tonight's Boxing 17/4 (Andrade v Williams, Prograis v Redkach, Paul v Askren etc)

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