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15-06-2019, 22:56   #151
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15-06-2019, 23:02   #152
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"I would take the opportunity to warn against hasty conclusions, against attempts to lay the blame at the door of those we don't like," the agency quoted Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov as saying.



"Lately we have been seeing a strengthening campaign of political, psychological and military pressure on Iran. We wouldn't want the events that have just happened, which are tragic and shook the world oil market, to be used speculatively to further aggravate the situation in an anti-Iranian sense," Ryabkov was quoted as saying.


It's so Russia that did it. At first he says
''I would take the opportunity to warn against hasty conclusions, against attempts to lay the blame at the door of those we don't like,''
And the says

''We wouldn't want the events that have just happened, which are tragic and shook the world oil market, to be used speculatively to further aggravate the situation in an anti-Iranian sense,

But why put that bit in the middle, to stoke the fiire ' IT WAS TRAGIC LOL AND SHOOK THE WORLD OIL MARKET, FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT ''

He talks of hasty conclusions and then called incident tragic, and it shook the world . So deliberately bombing hospitals in Syria is not tragic. A fender bender on a ship is though.
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15-06-2019, 23:02   #153
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That makes no sense
actually it does

Everyone expected Russia to back Iran in this. But they haven't in fact they have gone so far as to say Iran should not expect their Support. They have all but out and out given support for the US in this.

Russia and Iran are not friends. Russia has long hated Iran for supporting terrorist networks all throughout the middle east.

Iran has been involved in the Syrian civil war. Russian intervention in the Syrian civil war happened in 2015 and they have been there ever since.

So in a way ...Iran and Russia are already fighting each other.

Russia has been WAAY more involved in Syria than even Israel. Israel's official position is neutrality in the Syrian conflict. Russia has been trying to get them involved more for a long time.

This is totally Russia's style ..and it would benefit them.
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15-06-2019, 23:10   #154
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"I would take the opportunity to warn against hasty conclusions, against attempts to lay the blame at the door of those we don't like," the agency quoted Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov as saying.



"Lately we have been seeing a strengthening campaign of political, psychological and military pressure on Iran. We wouldn't want the events that have just happened, which are tragic and shook the world oil market, to be used speculatively to further aggravate the situation in an anti-Iranian sense," Ryabkov was quoted as saying.


It's so Russia that did it. At first he says
''I would take the opportunity to warn against hasty conclusions, against attempts to lay the blame at the door of those we don't like,''
And the says

''We wouldn't want the events that have just happened, which are tragic and shook the world oil market, to be used speculatively to further aggravate the situation in an anti-Iranian sense,

But why put that bit in the middle, to stoke the fiire ' IT WAS TRAGIC LOL AND SHOOK THE WORLD OIL MARKET, FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT ''

He talks of hasty conclusions and then called incident tragic, and it shook the world . So deliberately bombing hospitals in Syria is not tragic. A fender bender on a ship is though.
You are literally insane.
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15-06-2019, 23:11   #155
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actually it does

Everyone expected Russia to back Iran in this. But they haven't in fact they have gone so far as to say Iran should not expect their Support. They have all but out and out given support for the US in this.

Russia and Iran are not friends. Russia has long hated Iran for supporting terrorist networks all throughout the middle east.

Iran has been involved in the Syrian civil war. Russian intervention in the Syrian civil war happened in 2015 and they have been there ever since.

So in a way ...Iran and Russia are already fighting each other.

Russia has been WAAY more involved in Syria than even Israel. Israel's official position is neutrality in the Syrian conflict. Russia has been trying to get them involved more for a long time.

This is totally Russia's style ..and it would benefit them.
So if it’s not Dallas oilmen it’s the Russians. And the Russians gain what from this? Nothing.

Where are the crazies coming from?
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15-06-2019, 23:18   #156
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actually it does

Everyone expected Russia to back Iran in this. But they haven't in fact they have gone so far as to say Iran should not expect their Support. They have all but out and out given support for the US in this.

Russia and Iran are not friends. Russia has long hated Iran for supporting terrorist networks all throughout the middle east.

Iran has been involved in the Syrian civil war. Russian intervention in the Syrian civil war happened in 2015 and they have been there ever since.

So in a way ...Iran and Russia are already fighting each other.

Russia has been WAAY more involved in Syria than even Israel. Israel's official position is neutrality in the Syrian conflict. Russia has been trying to get them involved more for a long time.

This is totally Russia's style ..and it would benefit them.
They are on the same side in the Syrian conflict , not that it makes them allies .
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So if it’s not Dallas oilmen it’s the Russians. And the Russians gain what from this? Nothing.

Where are the crazies coming from?

They have everything to gain from this. Syria for one. It's theirs without Iran.

Syria is the only significant crude oil producing country in the Eastern Mediterranean region.
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15-06-2019, 23:22   #158
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They are on the same side in the Syrian conflict , not that it makes them allies .

No they ARE NOT. It's not that simple.

If that were true. Israel and Iran would be on the same side. Clearly that is not the case.
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15-06-2019, 23:24   #159
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Easy. Twas The Saudis.
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Easy. Twas The Saudis.
Same boys that did 9/11?
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Maybe they are right then. Maybe it WAS simply Iran.
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Easy. Twas The Saudis.

There is no evidence of that in fairness.

Just because they hate Iran etc its not reason enough.
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16-06-2019, 00:45   #163
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Israel is not the warmonger you think they are. The govt can't afford to be. It's electorate is the army. They go to war their voters DIE.

They just live beside crazy countries with zero concern for human rights i.e Syria Iraq Jordan.
Lol, I must live in some alternate reality where the Israelis fire flowers and chocolates and not missiles at kids on the beaches of Gaza.

Also please don't insinuate I am blaming the Jews as if condemnation of Israels human right abuses is anti-semetic.
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No they ARE NOT. It's not that simple.

If that were true. Israel and Iran would be on the same side. Clearly that is not the case.
Could you elaborate on this ? I'm genuinely interested btw . I've always had the opinion it was Assad, Russia, Hezbollah and IRGC(in the background) loosely working together .
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Mohammed bin Salman has decided to chime in now. I would have thought he'd be keeping a low profile at the moment.
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