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12-06-2019, 16:05   #1
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Administering of contaminated blood products - was it genocide?

I remember the Lindsay Tribunal that investigated the administering of contaminated blood products in this country. The horror unfolded worldwide. A similar inquiry in the UK is ongoing.


Would the infection of people - especially, but not confined to, haemophiliacs - by the administering of these products be regarded under international law as genocide?
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As genocide is the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular nation or ethnic group, then no it would not be considered genocide.
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Can I ask, are blood donations tested for signs of abnormal inflammation in the body somewhere?
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I remember the Lindsay Tribunal that investigated the administering of contaminated blood products in this country. The horror unfolded worldwide. A similar inquiry in the UK is ongoing.


Would the infection of people - especially, but not confined to, haemophiliacs - by the administering of these products be regarded under international law as genocide?
For the sake of the thread, I'm going to say yes , yes it would.

P.S. in reality, I agree with Srameen.

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I remember the Lindsay Tribunal that investigated the administering of contaminated blood products in this country. The horror unfolded worldwide. A similar inquiry in the UK is ongoing.


Would the infection of people - especially, but not confined to, haemophiliacs - by the administering of these products be regarded under international law as genocide?
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Can I ask, are blood donations tested for signs of abnormal inflammation in the body somewhere?
Yes.
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Yes.
That’s good. That’s really good. People could have undiagnosed serious diseases and I knew some tests were done but didn’t know if inflammation was checked for.
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As genocide is the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular nation or ethnic group, then no it would not be considered genocide.

Haemophiliacs constitute a large group of people with a genetic disorder - so how can knowingly letting them be infected via blood products not be genocide?
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That’s good. That’s really good. People could have undiagnosed serious diseases and I knew some tests were done but didn’t know if inflammation was checked for.
I don't think people are ever told. they just don't use the blood.
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I don't think people are ever told. they just don't use the blood.
I wasn’t saying they were. I simply meant that it’s good that those blood products aren’t used.
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As genocide is the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular nation or ethnic group, then no it would not be considered genocide.

Haemophiliacs constitute a large group of people with a genetic disorder - so how can knowingly letting them be infected via blood products not be genocide?
They weren't knowingly infected.
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Can I ask, are blood donations tested for signs of abnormal inflammation in the body somewhere?
Kuru is a human disease that can have an incubation time of 56 years or more.

And you can't store blood for that long.

vCJD as in Mad Cow Disease is in the same class, so there could be other diseases out there we don't know to test for. Which is why it's so important to screen donor.
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Kuru is a human disease that can have an incubation time of 56 years or more.

And you can't store blood for that long.

vCJD as in Mad Cow Disease is in the same class, so there could be other diseases out there we don't know to test for. Which is why it's so important to screen donor.
Kuru is very rare, since people have pretty much stopped eating each other. Nearly non-existent, I should think.
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Haemophiliacs constitute a large group of people with a genetic disorder - so how can knowingly letting them be infected via blood products not be genocide?
And deliberately killed??
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And deliberately killed??

Isn't that what giving someone blood that you know is contaminated is?
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