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11-06-2019, 13:03   #31
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I've been scolded out of the Pride month thread for derailing it (apologies) so I'll ask here.

First off, this is a legitimate question, I'm not looking to bash/condemn anyone in the LGBTQ community, and I'm not looking to condemn Muslims or Islam.

I'm just genuinely curious about why there has been an increase, often at LGBTQ marches etc, of support shown by that community, towards the Muslim community.



I'm not saying that supporting one another and speaking out against bigotry and homoohobia together is a bad thing. I'm just surprised that the LGBTQ community support Islam, but condemn Christianity.

I can totally understand them condemning both, as both religions teach that homosexuality is wrong/sinful. I just don't get why one is supported and the other is not.

Again, this is a genuine question that I'm curious about so please don't drag it down to a mud slinging match.
LGBT is a division of the political and cultural left, it's just another identity politics movement(many gay people do not identify with it)

Islam is a sacred cow of the left

That's all there is to know here

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11-06-2019, 13:05   #32
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Probably because one community which suffers discrimination and hatred can empathise with other demographics who experience the same.
Ah yes, both are officially victims
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Yeah stand up for the giant corporation whose practicing or non practicing members have not faced bigotry for nearly two thousand years in the west.
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That's why I specified in the first post that the extremist Sharia law "death to gays" brigade is a small minority of Muslims, especially in the west.
Yeah, I know, but you just know some people are going to wander in, ignore your words and mine, and then have a go at the religion anyway on the basis that Muslims are automatically homophobic because that's what they've been told and they can't be bothered challenging it.

Cases in point:

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I wonder if the people in that photo had the choice to walk down the main street of one of two cities let's say Rome or Tehran looking like that which they'd chose.

Exactly.

For the record i have no interest in any religion or sky fairies.
(Pretty sure Rome has had pride parades)

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looking forward to seeing pro LGBT posters at Islamic events. or is this an unrequited love affair?
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LGBT is a division of the political and cultural left

Islam is a sacred cow of the left

That's all there is to know here
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Ah yes, both are officially victims
Nope ..don't make that mistake. Survivors.

Moaning straight people are victims.
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11-06-2019, 13:09   #36
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LGBT is a division of the political and cultural left, it's just another identity politics movement(many gay people do not identify with it)

Islam is a sacred cow of the left

That's all there is to know here
Well I certainly wouldn't say its that straightforward.

But even if it was, WHY (in your opinion) is Islam the sacred cow of the left?
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I do think they should stand up for gay muslims though in countries like Brunei where they get stoned.
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What's your point Biko?

Some people are dicks?
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Its about standing up to ALL forms of bigotry because that is nothing to be proud of.

Be kind to people.

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Yeah stand up for the giant corporation whose practicing or non practicing members have not faced bigotry for nearly two thousand years in the west.

Changed your tune there fairly sharpish ILYB?
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Probably because one community which suffers discrimination and hatred can empathise with other demographics who experience the same.
If that was the case the LGBTQ+ community would support Christianity. There are plenty of countries around the world where Christians suffer from discrimination.
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What's your point Biko?
My point LGBT people would support the guy in your image.

Those values are Islam values.
I oppose those values.
Do you oppose those values?
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What's your point Biko?

Some people are dicks?
Does anyone else think people like yer man there suffer from a mental illness of some description? And I don't mean just being an asshole. There must be something medically wrong with someone like that.
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Does anyone else think people like yer man there suffer from a mental illness of some description? And I don't mean just being an asshole. There must be something medically wrong with someone like that.
It is hard to say. Although they failed comically there are users on this forum, and even this thread, who have tried in the past to suggest that same sex parenting was detrimental to kids. Or was somehow less than the "ideal" of having one parent of each gender.

The difference between them and the guy in the picture is the guy in the picture is on the street with a placard. But other than that, they are espousing the same position really.

I do not think holding a placard or protesting publicly makes you mentally ill. I also do not think being entirely wrong on the subject of parenting makes you mentally ill.

Espousing unsubstantiated nonsense just makes you wrong, not ill.
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Anyone can have pride, question is do they have honor.
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11-06-2019, 13:31   #45
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If that was the case the LGBTQ+ community would support Christianity. There are plenty of countries around the world where Christians suffer from discrimination.
I'm willing to bet that there are plenty more countries where Muslims are facing discrimination.
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